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Subject: What Were The ODSTs Aiming To Do?

In ODST, what was their objective when they were trying to drop into the Covenant ship at the start?

Just curious, I think I may have missed it in the dialogue.

  • 06.14.2011 3:34 AM PDT
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I respect your opinion, I'm probably just going to disagree with it.

Yeah, I assume it was some sort of top down boarding attempt, but the group you play with have different mission with Dare that is comparatively unrelated to the Carrier. As the player, you don't get informed of this during the briefing at the beginning, though, you find out during the drop sequence.

  • 06.14.2011 3:42 AM PDT

man, i would have loved to drop down on that carrier to blow it up...

  • 06.14.2011 3:49 AM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

It was to assist In Amber Clad by launching an ODST strike-team onto Regret's flagship, by breaching into the ships interior.

However when the ship went into Slipspace, the mission went downhill from there. Instead it was simply regrouping and then find Dare. Dare's objective was to retrieve the engineer.

That's basically it, the significance of this engineer is never explained as of now.

  • 06.14.2011 3:50 AM PDT

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I think the original objective was to destroy the ship from the inside, because the navy didn't had the neccesary power to take down the shields
(since it already had passed the MAC platforms).

Or maybe the ODST's were sent in to capture regret.

Edit: This also explains the motives of Dare

[Edited on 06.14.2011 3:58 AM PDT]

  • 06.14.2011 3:52 AM PDT

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  • 06.14.2011 3:56 AM PDT

Marine Sanders
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You cannot exaggerate about the Marines. They are convinced to the point of arrogance, that they are the most ferocious fighters on earth- and the amusing thing about it is that they are.

Wrong... Everyone here was wrong. Did you all even play the game?
The Carrier was just a false story used by Dare. Your team was supposed to secure New Mombassa's AI Core. Cole protocol. However, when the engineer was spotted, the engineer became the objective.

P.S.
Before you even ask, the Cole Protocol couldn't be executed because the AI was damaged.

  • 06.14.2011 6:45 AM PDT

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They were going to drop to the carrier.

Romeo: ...they missed one.
Dutch: No, they left it for us.

(Talking about the carrier.)

Then Dare puts them off course and what they were really there to do. Which is to recover the Engineer.

  • 06.14.2011 6:58 AM PDT


Posted by: Dustin The Wind
Wrong... Everyone here was wrong. Did you all even play the game?
The Carrier was just a false story used by Dare. Your team was supposed to secure New Mombassa's AI Core. Cole protocol. However, when the engineer was spotted, the engineer became the objective.

P.S.
Before you even ask, the Cole Protocol couldn't be executed because the AI was damaged.


ehm. the cole protocol?
the same cole protocol that should prohibit the covenant from finding earth?

think again.

  • 06.14.2011 7:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: Dustin The Wind
Wrong... Everyone here was wrong. Did you all even play the game?
The Carrier was just a false story used by Dare. Your team was supposed to secure New Mombassa's AI Core. Cole protocol. However, when the engineer was spotted, the engineer became the objective.

P.S.
Before you even ask, the Cole Protocol couldn't be executed because the AI was damaged.


ehm. the cole protocol?
the same cole protocol that should prohibit the covenant from finding earth?

think again.

This ^^
Cole Protocol is to prevent Covenant from finding Earth, so why would it matter if the Covenant are already occupying New Mombasa

  • 06.14.2011 7:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: Dustin The Wind
Wrong... Everyone here was wrong. Did you all even play the game?
The Carrier was just a false story used by Dare. Your team was supposed to secure New Mombassa's AI Core. Cole protocol. However, when the engineer was spotted, the engineer became the objective.

P.S.
Before you even ask, the Cole Protocol couldn't be executed because the AI was damaged.


This. sort of.

It was my understanding that the carrier and securing the AI were both shams, and that securing the engineer was dare's main goal from the initial drop.

And not just any engineer, but that one in particular, as it had access to all covenant intelligence and the information contained on/in the new mombassa AI

[Edited on 06.14.2011 7:46 AM PDT]

  • 06.14.2011 7:44 AM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

Posted by: Dustin The Wind
Wrong... Everyone here was wrong. Did you all even play the game?

That's a pretty douche-bag attitude you have. Especially after your false interpretation of the Cole Protocol, I don't think you're in any position to talk.

  • 06.14.2011 7:49 AM PDT

again, cole protocol?

dare states in one of the cutscenes, that their mission is to secure the Superintendents data (to find out what the cov are after).
the captured engineer is just lucky coincidence.

it's all in the cutscenes, no need for discussion or "but i think..".


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Posted by: Dustin The Wind
Wrong... Everyone here was wrong. Did you all even play the game?
The Carrier was just a false story used by Dare. Your team was supposed to secure New Mombassa's AI Core. Cole protocol. However, when the engineer was spotted, the engineer became the objective.

P.S.
Before you even ask, the Cole Protocol couldn't be executed because the AI was damaged.


This. sort of.

It was my understanding that the carrier and securing the AI were both shams, and that securing the engineer was dare's main goal from the initial drop.

And not just any engineer, but that one in particular, as it had access to all covenant intelligence and the information contained on/in the new mombassa AI


[Edited on 06.14.2011 7:54 AM PDT]

  • 06.14.2011 7:52 AM PDT


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Posted by: ninjakenzen
It was to assist In Amber Clad by launching an ODST strike-team onto Regret's flagship, by breaching into the ships interior.

However when the ship went into Slipspace, the mission went downhill from there. Instead it was simply regrouping and then find Dare. Dare's objective was to retrieve the engineer.

That's basically it, the significance of this engineer is never explained as of now.


This is pretty much it, when it's put in short, the storyline was shocking to be fair, i still enjoyed the game though.


nope.
c'mon guys, it's really not that hard:

UNSC Say My Name prepares to drop a couple of ODSTs onto a Covy Carrier. ONI agent takes over control of a squad and while jumping, sends new coordinates to her team. THEN the carrier jumps and sends everyone off course. objectives changed before.

dare's objective was to secure the city's AI, the Superintendent (as explained in the -blam!- game), but there she stumbled upon one of the cov's biological supercomputers and decided to be friends with him.
end of story.



EDIT: joking about the storyline but missing the big picture. don't you just love that.

[Edited on 06.14.2011 8:02 AM PDT]

  • 06.14.2011 8:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: Dustin The Wind
Wrong... Everyone here was wrong. Did you all even play the game?
The Carrier was just a false story used by Dare. Your team was supposed to secure New Mombassa's AI Core. Cole protocol. However, when the engineer was spotted, the engineer became the objective.

P.S.
Before you even ask, the Cole Protocol couldn't be executed because the AI was damaged.


Buck's squad was to participate in assaulting the carrier just like all the other ODSTs on board, but was hijacked at the last second by Dare who wanted to covertly retrieve the Engineer along with the data the SI had received on the human excavation findings shortly before the Covenant arrived.

The carrier was not some "false story", and the squad was never even told what their new mission was or why they were forced to veer off course at the last second because Dare was separated from everyone else before getting the chance to say anything about their goals.

This was not a matter of "the cole protocol". The protocol is a measure designed to prevent the Covenant from finding Earth by destroying any NAV data pertaining to it or any human colonies. That went out the window the second the Covenant found Earth. Dare wanted the data stored in the SI pertaining to the findings that Dr. Endesha discovered because she knew it was the key to finding out what the Covenant wanted in New Mombasa. Her goal was never to wipe any data stored there as the Cole protocol would dictate...

  • 06.14.2011 8:15 AM PDT

Marine Sanders
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You cannot exaggerate about the Marines. They are convinced to the point of arrogance, that they are the most ferocious fighters on earth- and the amusing thing about it is that they are.

Yeah... Cole Protocol... My Bad. What I meant was that the AI had critical intel on the Ark. (the excavation data mentioned in the Alternate story line.
P.S. I didnt mean to come off as a jerk before... Just frustrated at the lack of knowledge on the subject.

  • 06.14.2011 10:54 AM PDT

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Wait wait wait... if MAC blasts etc find it difficult to break through a covenant ships shield... how would an ODST drop pod? It physically couldn't... am i missing something? wouldn't the drop ships just land on the shield, the ODST's would get out and just like slip around on the shield or something? And if the shield was down then why wasn't it just destroyed by the UNSC ships and gun emplacements?

  • 06.14.2011 11:53 AM PDT
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And if the shield was down then why wasn't it just destroyed by the UNSC ships and gun emplacements?

Maybe so they could try to capture Regret?

  • 06.14.2011 12:14 PM PDT


Posted by: hamsta squisha
Wait wait wait... if MAC blasts etc find it difficult to break through a covenant ships shield... how would an ODST drop pod? It physically couldn't... am i missing something? wouldn't the drop ships just land on the shield, the ODST's would get out and just like slip around on the shield or something? And if the shield was down then why wasn't it just destroyed by the UNSC ships and gun emplacements?


classic example of dodgy science fiction, since nothing can penetrate their shield until it has collapsed, maybe they were going 'shield skating...?'

  • 06.14.2011 12:38 PM PDT

usualy, the sci-fi explanation is that shields only work on objects with high kinetic energy: bullets are deflected - knives aren't, because they move too slow (i guess the assassination moves proof that principle for halo). same could be applied for drop pods.

EDIT - UNSC Say My Name = best name for a (battle-)ship EVER

[Edited on 06.14.2011 1:48 PM PDT]

  • 06.14.2011 1:44 PM PDT