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Subject: Marathon and Halo Universe Connected
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Why else would Bungie want us to know the storyline behind Marathon? It obviously isn't for advertisement reasons, the game is free now AND they would have advertised their other games/storylines.

The fact that the events of Marathon happened only 228 years after the events of Halo 3 should already be questionable. Marathon Man is even wearing Mjolnir armor.

Get over yourself, I'm giving you descent enough speculative evidence that they ARE connected. What is your evidence that they aren't, "Bungie said so"? C'mon, go back to the days when you googled Halo after CE and Halo 2 and you would read all of those "theories" and speculations on Halopedia just to find out that they were to become canon in the future games of Halo 3 and Halo Reach.

I agree that it may be too early to even try to argue this or try to speculate what would happen between those 228 years but if you ask me we did a good job at foretelling the events of Halo 3.

I'm just a curious guy and story of Halo and Marathon both captivate me.

  • 06.14.2011 2:12 PM PDT

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Too bad they aren't.

  • 06.14.2011 2:13 PM PDT

I haven't played Marathon, but most people say the two universes are not connected.

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Posted by: Monitor117
"Bungie said so"?


umm yes.


so we don't believe them any other time when they say no, but when it comes to this we ignore that?

Oddly enough when bungie says "yes" or "it will be like this" is normally when the opposite happens.

  • 06.14.2011 2:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: Monitor117
What is your evidence that they aren't, "Bungie said so"? C'mon
This would make a great motivational poster:
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IGNORE FACTS

[Edited on 06.14.2011 2:20 PM PDT]

  • 06.14.2011 2:19 PM PDT
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It would be interesting to see that happen though I doubt 343 would take fiction from another of Bungie's games to further the Halo franchise. Well, unless Bungie had planned it from the start.

  • 06.14.2011 2:19 PM PDT

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Marathon IP belongs to Bungie, Halo IP belongs to Microsoft. See where this is going? They cannot be connected.

Bungie have debunked this retarded theory for YEARS, there is no connection between Halo and Marathon because they're 2 different universes. It's like saying Mass Effect = KOTOR on the basis that they were made by the same people and reference each other, just no...

There is absolutely no canonical connection between Halo and Marathon, the history in both universes do not add up.

  • 06.14.2011 2:20 PM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307
Marathon IP belongs to Bungie, Halo IP belongs to Microsoft. See where this is going? They cannot be connected.


This train of logic makes no sense.

However, Bungie has stated that they are not canonically related.

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Posted by: grey101

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Oddly enough when bungie says "yes" or "it will be like this" is normally when the opposite happens.


Oddly enough when bungie says "no" or "halo is not connected to marathon" they seem to add more evidence that they are connected. If they are not connected, I can easily claim that Halo is just a remake of Marathon BUT I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THIS.

It would be just so much more epic to find out that they made a trilogy that made success (marathon) and then made ANOTHER trilogy TEN YEARS LATER (halo 1,2,3).. and then YET ANOTHER TRILOGY (halo 4,5,6) just to find out they Halo Reach-Halo 6 were a prequel of Marathon. They would probably remake Marathon with halo graphics... that would be the dream... O.o
They could possibly even made a game following the marathon trilogy OR EVEN BETTER a game that lets you play the story of the precursor/forerunner war or forerunner/human war OR Human/flood, forerunner/flood... the possibilities are endless and Bungie probably knows this.

Oh and please don't give me that 343(7) is the new owner of it b/c if you hadn't noticed, Bungie never sold the rights to Master Chief and if you've noticed 343 is NOT paying to use them, obviously b/c there are ex-Bungie workers working for 343. This is just a plan for world domination im sure, did you guys even notice Bungie is taking over play station?

  • 06.14.2011 2:24 PM PDT

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Too bad they aren't.

  • 06.14.2011 2:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307
Marathon IP belongs to Bungie, Halo IP belongs to Microsoft. See where this is going? They cannot be connected.


This train of logic makes no sense.

However, Bungie has stated that they are not canonically related.


Marathon cannot be integrated into the Halo universe because Bungie owns the Marathon IP, Microsoft/343 cannot use it for future Halo titles.

  • 06.14.2011 2:25 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Monitor117
Oh and please don't give me that 343(7) is the new owner of it b/c if you hadn't noticed, Bungie never sold the rights to Master Chief and if you've noticed 343 is NOT paying to use them, obviously b/c there are ex-Bungie workers working for 343. This is just a plan for world domination im sure, did you guys even notice Bungie is taking over play station?

No, the never sold the rights of the Superintendent, how else could 343 use Master Chief in their Halo games? For the love of God, shut up already.

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Posted by: Monitor117
What is your evidence that they aren't, "Bungie said so"? C'mon
This would make a great motivational poster:
PURSUE CRAZY IDEA

IGNORE FACTS

^This guy


Bungie is BOSS at keeping secrets. They don't even comment on the number "7". Bungie has said a lot of things, and not only have they owned up to their word but they've even owned up to their denials, what kind of -BLAM is that??
I swear, only Bungie is crazy enough to say they are giving us our dream and give it to us AND THEN deny something and give us what they denied. Don't go back and read the history of the games.. go back and read the history of Bungie, these guys are geniuses. Do you guys even know who Freddie used to work for? haha What more must i say?

and even if they weren't connected... imagine if they were.. imagine the infinite possibilities..

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Posted by: Monitor117

Posted by: grey101

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Oddly enough when bungie says "yes" or "it will be like this" is normally when the opposite happens.


Oddly enough when bungie says "no" or "halo is not connected to marathon" they seem to add more evidence that they are connected. If they are not connected, I can easily claim that Halo is just a remake of Marathon BUT I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THIS.

It would be just so much more epic to find out that they made a trilogy that made success (marathon) and then made ANOTHER trilogy TEN YEARS LATER (halo 1,2,3).. and then YET ANOTHER TRILOGY (halo 4,5,6) just to find out they Halo Reach-Halo 6 were a prequel of Marathon. They would probably remake Marathon with halo graphics... that would be the dream... O.o
They could possibly even made a game following the marathon trilogy OR EVEN BETTER a game that lets you play the story of the precursor/forerunner war or forerunner/human war OR Human/flood, forerunner/flood... the possibilities are endless and Bungie probably knows this.

Oh and please don't give me that 343(7) is the new owner of it b/c if you hadn't noticed, Bungie never sold the rights to Master Chief and if you've noticed 343 is NOT paying to use them, obviously b/c there are ex-Bungie workers working for 343. This is just a plan for world domination im sure, did you guys even notice Bungie is taking over play station?


Are you trolling? bungie has clearly said that they place stuff from marathon as a throw back, homenage, and that halo was influenced by marathon. nothing more.

And If you knew anything about marathon you would know that they couldn't be related. you idiot bungie doesn't have the rights to master chief or else we wouldn't have him for the next 10 years. and its playstation, it's one word.

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Posted by: Monitor117
Oh and please don't give me that 343(7) is the new owner of it b/c if you hadn't noticed, Bungie never sold the rights to Master Chief and if you've noticed 343 is NOT paying to use them, obviously b/c there are ex-Bungie workers working for 343. This is just a plan for world domination im sure, did you guys even notice Bungie is taking over play station?

No, the never sold the rights of the Superintendent, how else could 343 use Master Chief in their Halo games? For the love of God, shut up already.


How else???? I just told you!! Dude 343 has ex-Bungie employees! Freddie is a prime example of these conspiracy! For all you know Bungie and Microsoft have been planning together.

343 is just another way of representing the number "7".. who represents the number "7" better than anyone??? Bungie!
343 is just a way for Bungie to work for both microsoft AND playstation <--- Is that better?

[Edited on 06.14.2011 2:32 PM PDT]

  • 06.14.2011 2:30 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Monitor117

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Posted by: Monitor117
Oh and please don't give me that 343(7) is the new owner of it b/c if you hadn't noticed, Bungie never sold the rights to Master Chief and if you've noticed 343 is NOT paying to use them, obviously b/c there are ex-Bungie workers working for 343. This is just a plan for world domination im sure, did you guys even notice Bungie is taking over play station?

No, the never sold the rights of the Superintendent, how else could 343 use Master Chief in their Halo games? For the love of God, shut up already.


How else???? I just told you!! Dude 343 has ex-Bungie employees! Freddie is a prime example of these conspiracy! For all you know Bungie and Microsoft have been planning together.

You have no idea what you are talking about. At all.

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Posted by: Monitor117

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Posted by: Monitor117
Oh and please don't give me that 343(7) is the new owner of it b/c if you hadn't noticed, Bungie never sold the rights to Master Chief and if you've noticed 343 is NOT paying to use them, obviously b/c there are ex-Bungie workers working for 343. This is just a plan for world domination im sure, did you guys even notice Bungie is taking over play station?

No, the never sold the rights of the Superintendent, how else could 343 use Master Chief in their Halo games? For the love of God, shut up already.


How else???? I just told you!! Dude 343 has ex-Bungie employees! Freddie is a prime example of these conspiracy! For all you know Bungie and Microsoft have been planning together.


The only bungie employee at 343i is frankie, and he has only been around since halo 2-3.

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  • 06.14.2011 2:33 PM PDT

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I'd like the OP to explain this. The year 2194 was marked by the war between Icarus and Thermopylae in the Marathon universe, then in 2472, the Marathon Project was completed, and the was commissioned. Now where at all in the Halo canon is either of these significant events recorded?

For reference, the Marathon Project was a massive undertaking, involving the conversion of one of the moons of Mars, Deimos, into the UESC Marathon. If this was completed in 2472, how comes Mars is still very much Mars in the Halo universe?

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I'd like the OP to explain this. The year 2194 was marked by the war between Icarus and Thermopylae in the Marathon universe, then in 2472, the Marathon Project was completed, and the was commissioned. Now where at all in the Halo canon is either of these significant events recorded?

For reference, the Marathon Project was a massive undertaking, involving the conversion of one of the moons of Mars, Deimos, into the UESC Marathon. If this was completed in 2472, how comes Mars is still very much Mars in the Halo universe?


and what about the rainforest wars?

  • 06.14.2011 2:34 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Monitor117
Haterz be hating :P

And retards be retarded. ie You.

  • 06.14.2011 2:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: Monitor117
Freddie is a prime example of these conspiracy!
Freddie? As in Freddie Mercury? I -blam!- knew he was doing the music for Halo 4!

  • 06.14.2011 2:37 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Monitor117
343 is just another way of representing the number "7".. who represents the number "7" better than anyone??? Bungie!
343 is just a way for Bungie to work for both microsoft AND playstation <--- Is that better?


You do realize Bungie is at Activison and they would be on the Xbox, PS3, and PC regardless if 343 existed or not?

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Posted by: ajw34307
I'd like the OP to explain this. The year 2194 was marked by the war between Icarus and Thermopylae in the Marathon universe, then in 2472, the Marathon Project was completed, and the was commissioned. Now where at all in the Halo canon is either of these significant events recorded?

For reference, the Marathon Project was a massive undertaking, involving the conversion of one of the moons of Mars, Deimos, into the UESC Marathon. If this was completed in 2472, how comes Mars is still very much Mars in the Halo universe?


ONI, do you know how sketchy ONI is?
Do you guys even know the story of ONI? or better yet the storyline behind Bungie's game, ONI? ONI keeps everything a secret.. Just like Bungie. Bungie is ONI.

It's only speculation.. I apologized, i just realized that what i say is only considered a speculation if i say it's a speculation. Otherwise i'm just a crazy guy believing in bungie conspiracy. If i believed in conspiracy ide tell you that i saw with my own eyes a giant sling shot with angry angry birds in it, did i mention that it was aimed at the sun? Step 7 is almost complete :3

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So is he worse than Joshua or are they on the same level?

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