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Subject: Which Halo was the worst?
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My list from best to worst:

1. Halo: CE
2. Halo 3:ODST
3. Halo: Reach
4. Halo Wars
5. Halo 3
6. Halo 2

Yes, I included Halo Wars. I personally love RTS's (StarCraft 2), and for a console RTS, it's amazing.

  • 06.15.2011 1:38 PM PDT


Posted by: jtulkas
My list from best to worst:

1. Halo: CE
2. Halo 3:ODST
3. Halo: Reach
4. Halo Wars
5. Halo 3
6. Halo 2

Yes, I included Halo Wars. I personally love RTS's (StarCraft 2), and for a console RTS, it's amazing.


I like the first two, but after that I can't agree.

  • 06.15.2011 1:41 PM PDT
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To me CE and 2 had the best storyline, the Reach storyline was the most dull and pointless. As for 3 and ODST, 3 did satisfy and ODST was like a holiday/vacation.

  • 06.15.2011 1:58 PM PDT
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Note: I identify the problems in Campaign only.

Halo 1

Needed:

-better physics
-smarter marines
-bigger desired combat range for marines (they want to get in close and this results in them getting killed)
-AI vehicle compatibility (i.e. Marines should have been able to drive tanks)
-drivable Wraiths. It doesn't make sense to be unable to use one.
-tougher Hunters and Zealots (they're too easy to manipulate and dodge and Hunters are too easy to kill). On the other hand, these two enemies are one of the reasons why this game was so fun.
-smaller Pistol crosshair

My rating/review: 7/10. Just needed a little adjustment.

Halo 2

Needed:

-more time

Unnecessary changes:

-weapon nerfs
-vehicle nerfs (i.e. Scorpion: the cannon was less powerful and the forward movement acceleration was nerfed).
-replacing the AR

My rating/review: 5/10. Not fully developed. Had a lot of potential. A few more years and it could have beaten Halo 1.

Halo 3

Needed:

-My contributions
-More levels like The Ark and The Covenant

Unnecessary changes:

-no Zealots
-no Ultras
-no big battles on human levels
-no three way battles like in Halo 2
-no major battles like Ultras vs. Brute Captains in the Mausoleum

My rating/review: 9-10. It was enjoyable and the only one that could sustain me but I wanted it to have more and more.

Halo: Reach - didn't have Flood

What I liked:

-how the Ultra Elites felt like badasses rather than pissed off idiots
-the superiority of the higher ranking Elites, including Majors
-how the army troopers stayed back rather than charging into battle

What I disliked:

-how the army troopers took so freaking long turning to face you when you tried to swap weapons with them
-it took them this long to make Covies shoot long distances? I can arguably say that the only reason why Reach is difficult is because the Covies shoot at you from a greater distance. If Halo CE had this, wouldn't it have been the same?

My rating/review: 8-10

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In total, I can say that a Halo game that would meet my expectations and get a 10 would have:

-reliable weapons like in Halo CE and Halo: Reach
-allies that are a mixture of Halo CE marines and Halo: Reach troopers
-Covies that shoot at you from longer distances (like in Reach) but have better accuracy (like in CE) but are able to be killed by virtually any weapon (like in CE)
-the battle scenarios Halo 2 had
-the battle scenarios that Halo 3 had
-the inclusion of high ranking and/or imposing enemies

Halo 3: ODST - I don't even know what this is.

My rating/review: 3/10

[Edited on 06.15.2011 3:13 PM PDT]

  • 06.15.2011 3:02 PM PDT

Xbox has been around since I've been around.

My favorite is Halo: Reach. It is THE funnest game I've played for awhile.
Least favorite is Halo 3: ODST. The campaign was beautiful but boring.

  • 06.15.2011 3:23 PM PDT

Halo 2 for Life!

button combos make h2 way way way faster then all halos
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Posted by: totallymassive
silly ce lovers will always be hating h2 for introducing a superior game in terms of MP online.

ce are saying the button combos ruined halo or that modding ruined halo or superbouncing or whatever but all of these were really fun and modding wasn't even allowed in MM.

sped the game up and for the slow ce players I guess that was annoying lol JK well sort of JK. I do think some of the ce people can't handle the fast gameplay h2 had and no other halo had ever.


Your hate for CE enthusiasts is shocking! Halo 2's multiplayer was NOT considered to be "fast gameplay." I've spent a lot of my time playing CE, and once Halo 2 came out, I wasn't blown away. They dumbed down multiplayer gameplay, eliminating the skill that was required in Halo CE to open up a bigger fanbase. It was easy to be good in Halo 2. Not so much in Halo CE.

And to claim modding didn't happen in Halo 2 MM just cracks me up. I saw plenty of it.

  • 06.15.2011 6:10 PM PDT

lol i love the fanboy hate on reach

  • 06.15.2011 6:34 PM PDT

you are so incorrect in my opp, halo C.E. was the best it took skill and everyone was host.. nade jump, nade placement. sniping took skill and even leading your shots was part of the game... all other halos where bad. and your a fool to think halo 2 was trash. it was a turn for the worst yes, how ever halo 3 was the dump, and from then on all the games where trash. as i bought all games on lunch and played halo one in turneys thats the only game that really took skill.

  • 06.15.2011 6:57 PM PDT

try halo C.E. B,LT,B/ X,Y,Y/ B,Y,Y,B/... halo 2. B,X,R/ x,y,y timeing occured not like h1... RT,RT,Y,Y to easy for good people.

  • 06.15.2011 7:01 PM PDT

Halo 2 to me...
than any other halo game halo 2 was. The gameplay with the dual wielding was not needed. It was awesome but want needed when you can kick my noob hash with a plasma pistol and battle rifle.
Halo reach was awesome. All the things that Halo reach offered for the community. What if forge stayed the same, what if firefight never had the customization it does now, what IF you never had the real customization you do now with ur character, and theater mode... what if it wasnt their due to something not made it work. It made me nerd-gasim :P when I saw all the tech that made up the reach engine. It wasnt the worst cuz just like halo 3 it was a colabo of the past halo games.
In my perspective this is from best to worst.

1. HALO: CUSTOM EDITION
2. HALO: REACH
3. HALO: COMBAT EVOLVED
4. HALO 3
5. HALO 3: ODST
6. HALO WARS
7. HALO 2
8. YOUR MOM

If you check on it right now. Halo Combat Evolved is still being played online like it was still in its prime. Halo: Custom Edition is by far the best because it allows the community to make their own halo maps and single player levels without being tied down with just the objects of forge. Forge is like ur in a baby's crib being given blocks to play with.

Shall I get into Machinima Value cuz we both know that Halo 3 and Reach stretches usefullness for miles.

We're not thinking straight on this subject.
The story cuz its broken up like Halo ODST? Halo reach cuz ur noble team died? I knew they would die before i bought it but how they died was what i was looking foward to. ODST we didnt even expect the whole story in flashbacks thing and to me it was a great way to tell a story. Halo 2 it was fun to not play master chief for a while. :) but the arbiter missions I agree was "I want to get this over with cuz these elites are scary like my mother inlaw" but I enjoyed it. I enjoy the "HERETIC" level the most cuz its challenging like the last level. The cliffhanger at the end of the game did in fact pissed off players all over the world lol but went away. Best cliffhanger in the halo series ever. Halo wars.... I liked where it went :P thats all i can say.

HALO cutom edition gets a "10" and halo 2 gets a "7" from a scale from 1-10. Its not a bad game but it was flawed. It didnt quite sinc with the other halo games :/ to be honest like another developer made it. Its barely being played online compared to Halo CE & Custom Edition. I thank gearbox for that :D even though duke nukem wasnt as good of a game but it was a ride.

I thought about this before... I love every halo game regardless of their flaws *COUGH* glitches *COUGH* but thats what also made halo famous cuz you know us fans will be peeking their nose in places where we're not suppose to go and thats why Bungie added some nice out the way easter eggs.

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  • 06.15.2011 7:55 PM PDT
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What if i wanted to break?

I loved all the Halos besides reach it didn't really feel like halo to me.

  • 06.15.2011 8:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: KuD3x
1. HALO: CUSTOM EDITION
Only person I've ever seen put Custom Edition into a "Greatest Halos" list. I respect you for that. Long live Halo PC!

totallymassiveActually, as someone who has pulled off many Quad-Shots (By no means am I claiming to be anywhere near Walshy status with that statement xD), I feel Halo: Combat Evolved's kill times and Halo 2's have around the same fastest kill times (Halo: Combat Evolved, specifically for the PC, having a larger range of kill times mainy due to netcode issues). Another thing that many Halo fans have completely forgotten about over the years is that kill times aren't everything. You also have individual strategy, team strategy, map design, weapon balance, hitbox size, and many other things that lead to how skillful a game is. Too much focus on kill times, in my opinion.

(Just to be clear, the second part was not comparing any games at all. Just talking about how I feel kill times shouldn't be the main focus on if a game takes skill. I know people will read that and say I'm saying one game is worse than the other, in that case I will just say they didn't read this.)

[Edited on 06.15.2011 8:57 PM PDT]

  • 06.15.2011 8:46 PM PDT

You guys must be over reacting about halo reach!
It technically had WAY MORE than most of the other games (customisation, graphics, forge, armour, commendations etc.)
ODST was more or less a mini game compared to most halo titles.
Yes, it did get boring after a short while but HR deserve much more respect than its getting at the minute. Count yourself luckly you are playing something good from the original company because 343i will never do a better job than Bungie.

  • 06.16.2011 4:18 AM PDT
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Recon..??

My list from greatest to least
1.Halo: CE
2. Halo PC
3. Halo 3
4. Halo 2
5. Halo ODST
6. Halo: Reach

I DO NOT Hate Reach! It was ...it felt the least like halo lol
and i'm not even gonna name wars, it looked meh...except the graphics

  • 06.16.2011 7:42 AM PDT


Posted by: Mattuiop
You guys must be over reacting about halo reach!
It technically had WAY MORE than most of the other games (customisation, graphics, forge, armour, commendations etc.)
ODST was more or less a mini game compared to most halo titles.
Yes, it did get boring after a short while but HR deserve much more respect than its getting at the minute. Count yourself luckly you are playing something good from the original company because 343i will never do a better job than Bungie.


Yo have a very good point, and I definitely do NOT hate on Reach, I love it, my overall favorite thing being the armor customization. My friend Tony thinks its pointless because its just cosmetic and doesn't affect gameplay at all, but I disagree, and even so, its fun and makes every single player unique. Reach is a very good game, I just love Combat Evolved more. And while you may be right about 343i, the Anniversary game is going to be the exact same game, just with different graphics, so I'm going to buy it for sure. Because now, we can play the greatest Halo of all time and be able to have achievements, give it even more replay value.

  • 06.16.2011 10:18 AM PDT


Posted by: AngelForge042
My list from greatest to least
1.Halo: CE
2. Halo PC
3. Halo 3
4. Halo 2
5. Halo ODST
6. Halo: Reach

I DO NOT Hate Reach! It was ...it felt the least like halo lol
and i'm not even gonna name wars, it looked meh...except the graphics


Why does everyone rate ODST so low? T_T

  • 06.16.2011 10:19 AM PDT

How can you guys just insult good games they were made that way for a reason. besides halo reach is good, you just have a bad experience due to other players or you got reset like you deserved.

however my personal opinion about the least favored one is easily said to be Halo Wars

which by the way should have been in the pole

  • 06.16.2011 10:33 AM PDT

I really don't know why you guys are bashing Reach. It wasn't all that bad. I personally liked it. But that's just my opinion. Halo: Combat Evolved was by far the best Halo ever. It set goals so high, no other game could beat it (once again, my thoughts. I think it did so). Halo 2 was meh. It had a great story line, but for me, it didn't exactly feel like Halo. It kinda did, but not completely. Halo 3 was great. I really liked it. Halo 3: ODST was meh. Campaign was OK and the multiplayer was terrible, having to hope that someone was online playing firefight. I didn't like that at all. Now if Halo Wars was on there, I would vote that as the worst. It had an OK campaign, but the gameplay was terrible.

  • 06.16.2011 11:27 AM PDT

I believe that all the games were pretty good. the best online multiplayer and rank system goes to REACH, hands down. but the best campaign goes to Halo 2, as it was the most chalenging. I will never forget that first mission on legendary.

but, in terms of the WORST, i would vote Halo Wars, as it has a not-so-good campaign with not-so-good multiplayer. But no offence to bungie, as they make the best games EVER.

But since Halo Wars is NOT on the list, it has to be HALO 3:ODST. Its campaign could have been better, and dosen't have online capabilities outside of HALO 3. But, does have the best FireFight. but still i really good game.

  • 06.17.2011 5:57 AM PDT

Vengeance only leads to an ongoing cycle of hatred.

From Best to Least:
Halo 3/ODST
Halo Wars
Halo CE/2
Halo: Reach

  • 06.17.2011 5:58 AM PDT
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I already replied but after tonight, I've changed my mind. Halo: Reach was the worst. While I enjoy it, I severely dislike the Wraith as well as some other things.

Here's reasons why:

-still slow as hell
-wtf is the point of those smaller 'wings'?!
-nerfed rate of fire
-has too much auto aim
-takes separate vehicle damage

Only several reasons to use it:

-very powerful mortar
-good for splatter
-controllable boost
-sending army troopers flying to higher areas (they're still useless)
-moving and positioning objects (i.e. crates, UNSC shields)

And this is irrelevant but...

I hate:

-how low Spartan III's jump
-how weak Spartan III's are (why is it impossible to move a UNSC shield by melee? I swear that in Halo 3: ODST I could move objects like that by meleeing)
-fall damage
-how the Demo does not have silver skulls

Yeah, they stayed true to Halo CE. But they didn't do it perfectly.

The Pistol has the fast rof and good damage but the bloom makes it unreliable. It's better suited for rapid tapping on RT, close up, on Grunts and Jackals, than precision shots on Elites like in Halo CE. I also dislike how after lowering an Elite's shield with the AR, how it takes so long for the Pistol's crosshair to center after I switch.

Vehicle health is not visible.

Army trooper snipers can't snipe from long distances unlike Halo CE marines.

And here's my list (from favorite to least favorite):

Halo 3
Halo 3: ODST (at least it was enjoyable, since it is close to Halo 3)
Halo: Reach
Halo CE
Halo 2

One major reason Halo: Reach has a difficult Legendary is because of weapon and vehicle ineffectiveness. CE had all around effective weapons and vehicles whereas in Reach, you need power weapons, DMR, and plasma pistol.

[Edited on 06.17.2011 7:56 AM PDT]

  • 06.17.2011 7:47 AM PDT

You guys are dogging on halo reach for the wrong reasons.
You crying cuz its more realistic... if you jump from the third floor of something it should do damage. Be more realistic. The ones dogging on reach are the -blam!- that still prefer the assault rifle in a medium range battle.
Halo Reach is the best out of the series and you dog on it cuz

1. you're not super human that bend the laws of realism
2. you're not the master chief (Im glad to step out of his shoes for a while cuz thats how characters get old when you over you them)
3. you most likely miss ur D*mn chopper so you can run over people like noobs
4. the wraith still kicks your azs cuz you dont think of how to take out a bullet proof TANK
5. Difficulty... you just suck. If you dont know that in real life they have weapons that help for different situations then you are a the dumbasz on the battlefield trying to shoot down a banshee with an assault rifle.
6.This idiot talks about vehicle health is not visible... If you vehicle is damaged in some way its not in perfect health. If you warthog is smoking with fire get the f**k out.
7. The plasma pistol is a universal weapon. It can disable vehicles, it can lower shields, it has stoping power, and its shiny :) all you need is a partner which is the DMR and not the pistol.
8. If you didnt like the story its because you didnt like the characters dieing and how it ended. If you read any of the books you know reach was taken over... wtf you expect they all arise defeated and alive to apear in Halo 4. Their spartans that get into perdicaments that marines cant do on their own. I would expect a sniper to shoot me in my head after I was digging my barrel into their plans.
9. Forge... learn to use it. Its not hard and its not simple. It takes a mind set. Its like virtual legos.
10. armor abilities... you are an idiot jetpacker. that explains all.
11. assassinations is great but you can still melee without it. You just want that intant kill that -blam!- always try to get without having to deal with the hassel of fighting for it.
12. The features allows for endless amount of gameplay... He*l the game should cost 70 or 80 bucks but it doesnt.

Halo reach is not gonna be perfect if you love the original and if you've never played the others you're just saying what u saw & heard. I've never played halo wars but I still liked it.

I like Halo Custom Edition better than them all because its open to fans to make their own maps, levels, guns, enemies, vehicles, and so on. Its still keeping Halo 1 and the legacy alive after 10 years. Halo 2 has nothing on this game. Halo reach is great but you just got to understand that you want to much. You are part of the reason why halo never gets a full 10 rating. No one will give it a full 10 cuz of something stupid and yet you play it like its awesome... you hippercret.
Bungie im glad you're getting away from the Halo scene cuz part of your fans not getting it.

Halo has did well for a universe and you just dont like the change of Halo Reach & ODST. Well we're going to be back at Master Chief... lets see how you complain about thecomparison between others. Your opinion is only how you see it and how you found to see it is the reason why you dogg on it so much. >:/ This has gone from an anwer of which is the best halo game to a dogging on halo reach and this pisses me off.

  • 06.17.2011 9:29 AM PDT


Posted by: KuD3x
You guys are dogging on halo reach for the wrong reasons.
You crying cuz its more realistic... if you jump from the third floor of something it should do damage. Be more realistic. The ones dogging on reach are the -blam!- that still prefer the assault rifle in a medium range battle.
Halo Reach is the best out of the series and you dog on it cuz

1. you're not super human that bend the laws of realism
2. you're not the master chief (Im glad to step out of his shoes for a while cuz thats how characters get old when you over you them)
3. you most likely miss ur D*mn chopper so you can run over people like noobs
4. the wraith still kicks your azs cuz you dont think of how to take out a bullet proof TANK
5. Difficulty... you just suck. If you dont know that in real life they have weapons that help for different situations then you are a the dumbasz on the battlefield trying to shoot down a banshee with an assault rifle.
6.This idiot talks about vehicle health is not visible... If you vehicle is damaged in some way its not in perfect health. If you warthog is smoking with fire get the f**k out.
7. The plasma pistol is a universal weapon. It can disable vehicles, it can lower shields, it has stoping power, and its shiny :) all you need is a partner which is the DMR and not the pistol.
8. If you didnt like the story its because you didnt like the characters dieing and how it ended. If you read any of the books you know reach was taken over... wtf you expect they all arise defeated and alive to apear in Halo 4. Their spartans that get into perdicaments that marines cant do on their own. I would expect a sniper to shoot me in my head after I was digging my barrel into their plans.
9. Forge... learn to use it. Its not hard and its not simple. It takes a mind set. Its like virtual legos.
10. armor abilities... you are an idiot jetpacker. that explains all.
11. assassinations is great but you can still melee without it. You just want that intant kill that -blam!- always try to get without having to deal with the hassel of fighting for it.
12. The features allows for endless amount of gameplay... He*l the game should cost 70 or 80 bucks but it doesnt.

Halo reach is not gonna be perfect if you love the original and if you've never played the others you're just saying what u saw & heard. I've never played halo wars but I still liked it.

I like Halo Custom Edition better than them all because its open to fans to make their own maps, levels, guns, enemies, vehicles, and so on. Its still keeping Halo 1 and the legacy alive after 10 years. Halo 2 has nothing on this game. Halo reach is great but you just got to understand that you want to much. You are part of the reason why halo never gets a full 10 rating. No one will give it a full 10 cuz of something stupid and yet you play it like its awesome... you hippercret.
Bungie im glad you're getting away from the Halo scene cuz part of your fans not getting it.

Halo has did well for a universe and you just dont like the change of Halo Reach & ODST. Well we're going to be back at Master Chief... lets see how you complain about thecomparison between others. Your opinion is only how you see it and how you found to see it is the reason why you dogg on it so much. >:/ This has gone from an anwer of which is the best halo game to a dogging on halo reach and this pisses me off.


I think all the games are great, and they all have their own individual flaws. And yes, ODST and Reach get a lot of -blam!- from the community, but ODST was a great change of pace and you couldn't just run and gun like you were used to. And Reach was great, good story, characters, the customization, its all very good. Me personally, I still rate CE number one. However, thats just my opinion, and everyone is free to have their own.

  • 06.17.2011 11:33 AM PDT

Die!!

Posted by: MasterNoble116
ODST had the worst story-line which is what I look forward to in a Halo game.


You have GOT to be kidding me man. ODST was the best at campaign. Let me say it again. THE BEST. It also had the best soundtrack of any of the Halo games. To quote Billy Joe Armstrong in the song Holiday "Kill all the -blam!-s that dont agree". It you disagree, I just dont know what to say to you. I mean the whole other story with the audio logs and superintendent caches...It just makes the campaign the best ever. EVAR. I mean The Rookie finding his squad...I mean I could go on forever. Basically, ODST has the best campaign. End of story. -blam!-.

  • 06.17.2011 12:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: TheJadedTarget
Halo 3 - Best Multiplayer, Best Gameplay, Best Features Award
Halo: Combat Evolved - Best Campaign, Best Physics Award
Halo 3: ODST - Best of Halo 1 and Halo 3 Combined Award
Halo Wars - Best Console RTS Controls Award
Halo: Reach - Best Failure At Everything Award
Halo 2 - Best Broken As Bloody Crap Multiplayer Award

BxR BxR BxR BxR BxR

  • 06.17.2011 1:05 PM PDT

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