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Subject: Why you and I should believe the leaked Halo 4 info.For now.

There has been leaked information about Halo 4 recently and I believe it simply because the leaked Halo:Reach pics were EXACTLY in the full game besides the yellow hud but the hud was yellow in early development.




Also the info sounds believable because it said ther's a new set of enemies and characters in Halo 4 and Halo 4 is to be the start of a new trilogy in the Halo Universe and it said something about some features in Halo 4 will bring FPS games to a new levels and I read something about Halo 4(non-leaked information)that Halo 4 will start a new generation of gaming or something similar to that.

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  • 06.15.2011 6:17 AM PDT
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Frankie confirmed it to be fake

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  • 06.15.2011 6:28 AM PDT

Link please?

  • 06.15.2011 6:31 AM PDT

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Sounds like a pretty flimsy reason for believing.

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Posted by: soulider assasin
There has been leaked information about Halo 4 recently and I believe it simply because the leaked Halo:Reach pics were EXACTLY in the full game besides the yellow hud but the hud was yellow in early development.




Also the info sounds believable because it said ther's a new set of enemies and characters in Halo 4 and Halo 4 is to be the start of a new trilogy in the Halo Universe and it said something about some features in Halo 4 will bring FPS games to a new levels and I read something about Halo 4(non-leaked information)that Halo 4 will start a new generation of gaming or something similar to that.


I agree with you, I've stated many times on the forums that Bungie has leaked information in the past and denied it just so the Bungie fans could find out for themselves on release day. But you may want to support your opinion with more evidence. Those are the only threads that go far here whether you're right or wrong.

You're gonna have to do a lot of work, open up a lot of tabs and write EVERYTHING that can support your speculation otherwise the trolls will find your thoughts and ideas invalid :/

Nonetheless I agree with you. You're just gonna have to convince everyone else to the point that they can't argue with you. Use the books and canon material :)

  • 06.15.2011 8:43 AM PDT
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Posted by: Monitor117

Posted by: soulider assasin
There has been leaked information about Halo 4 recently and I believe it simply because the leaked Halo:Reach pics were EXACTLY in the full game besides the yellow hud but the hud was yellow in early development.




Also the info sounds believable because it said ther's a new set of enemies and characters in Halo 4 and Halo 4 is to be the start of a new trilogy in the Halo Universe and it said something about some features in Halo 4 will bring FPS games to a new levels and I read something about Halo 4(non-leaked information)that Halo 4 will start a new generation of gaming or something similar to that.


I agree with you, I've stated many times on the forums that Bungie has leaked information in the past and denied it just so the Bungie fans could find out for themselves on release day. But you may want to support your opinion with more evidence. Those are the only threads that go far here whether you're right or wrong.

You're gonna have to do a lot of work, open up a lot of tabs and write EVERYTHING that can support your speculation otherwise the trolls will find your thoughts and ideas invalid :/

Nonetheless I agree with you. You're just gonna have to convince everyone else to the point that they can't argue with you. Use the books and canon material :)


They never denied the Morello leaks.

Frankie didn't even tried to deny the rumors of a remake.

  • 06.15.2011 8:47 AM PDT

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Posted by: Monitor117

Posted by: soulider assasin
There has been leaked information about Halo 4 recently and I believe it simply because the leaked Halo:Reach pics were EXACTLY in the full game besides the yellow hud but the hud was yellow in early development.

Also the info sounds believable because it said ther's a new set of enemies and characters in Halo 4 and Halo 4 is to be the start of a new trilogy in the Halo Universe and it said something about some features in Halo 4 will bring FPS games to a new levels and I read something about Halo 4(non-leaked information)that Halo 4 will start a new generation of gaming or something similar to that.


I agree with you, I've stated many times on the forums that Bungie has leaked information in the past and denied it just so the Bungie fans could find out for themselves on release day. But you may want to support your opinion with more evidence. Those are the only threads that go far here whether you're right or wrong.

You're gonna have to do a lot of work, open up a lot of tabs and write EVERYTHING that can support your speculation otherwise the trolls will find your thoughts and ideas invalid :/

Nonetheless I agree with you. You're just gonna have to convince everyone else to the point that they can't argue with you. Use the books and canon material :)


There is no canon material to support this "leaked" information, there is no Sigma 7 or any evidence of human involvement with the Forerunners. How about we look at the facts? Frankie has declared this leaked info as utter rubbish, when this happened with Reach Bungie said nothing because it was true and there was evidence from pictures.

What do we have here? A guy saying "this guy told me about this, it must be true lawl".

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lol what remake? Do you mean Halo 4?
They couldn't deny the Morello leaks, it was about to be announced.
Who would make a denial so obvious, denials are usually made a year or so before the truth. Why would they want the truth leaked so early, ide deny it too!

.. and ive heard this sigma 7 BS before.. I dont know when.. or from where.. but Sigma 7 exists.. ive heard of this before and it WAS halo referenced.

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Posted by: Monitor117
lol what remake? Do you mean Halo 4?
They couldn't deny the Morello leaks, it was about to be announced.
Who would make a denial so obvious, denials are usually made a year or so before the truth. Why would they want the truth leaked so early, ide deny it too!

.. and ive heard this sigma 7 BS before.. I dont know when.. or from where.. but Sigma 7 exists.. ive heard of this before and it WAS halo referenced.


Stop trolling

  • 06.15.2011 8:56 AM PDT

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No, Sigma 7 has never been spoken of or so much as hinted at before. I suggest you stop trolling utter fallacies around here or you're going to make yourself hated here.

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Posted by: Monitor117
lol what remake? Do you mean Halo 4?


*facepalm*
halo 4 is not a damn remake he means halo anniversary.

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Schirra was named as one of the "Original Seven" Mercury Astronauts on April 9, 1959


Sigma 7

Maybe another Bungie number "7" reference. This isn't the Sigma 7 reference i was talking about, i just found this on google.
Maybe you're right, i can't find anything on Sigma 7 in the Bungie Universe but who knows, we won't find out till Halo 4 is released.

  • 06.15.2011 9:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: Monitor117
lol what remake? Do you mean Halo 4?
They couldn't deny the Morello leaks, it was about to be announced.
Who would make a denial so obvious, denials are usually made a year or so before the truth. Why would they want the truth leaked so early, ide deny it too!

.. and ive heard this sigma 7 BS before.. I dont know when.. or from where.. but Sigma 7 exists.. ive heard of this before and it WAS halo referenced.


Please, do a little research before trying to discuss something, otherwise, you'll only be seen as a Troll.

Fact: Halo CEA is coming (November 15th), and it's a Remake of Halo CE (Halo 1).

Fact: Halo 4 is not being made by Bungie.

Fact: Bungie and 343i never deny true leaks.

Fact: Sigma 7 doesn't exist in any actual canon in the Halo Universe

Opinion: You shouldn't believe anything without a confirmation of some kind.

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Posted by: Monitor117
lol what remake? Do you mean Halo 4?
They couldn't deny the Morello leaks, it was about to be announced.
Who would make a denial so obvious, denials are usually made a year or so before the truth. Why would they want the truth leaked so early, ide deny it too!

.. and ive heard this sigma 7 BS before.. I dont know when.. or from where.. but Sigma 7 exists.. ive heard of this before and it WAS halo referenced.


Please, do a little research before trying to discuss something, otherwise, you'll only be seen as a Troll.

Fact: Halo CEA is coming (November 15th), and it's a Remake of Halo CE (Halo 1).

Fact: Halo 4 is not being made by Bungie.

Fact: Bungie and 343i never deny true leaks.

Fact: Sigma 7 doesn't exist in any actual canon in the Halo Universe

Opinion: You shouldn't believe anything without a confirmation of some kind.


That last one was actually a fact, you SHOULD NOT believe anything without confirmation of some kind.

But for all you know Sigma 7 doesn't exist in any actual canon in the Halo Universe...yet.

Idk about 343 but Bungie has denied many things in the past.. here's one thing i found, if you really wanna troll you can go ahead and prove yourself wrong but this will be all that i post:

"Both Microsoft and Bungie have denied comments up until now. But there seems to be some truth to the rumors, as the initial price tag of 1 billion was thought by some to be too low. Mark Rein, vice-president of Epic, commented that any negotiations related to Epic would begin at the sum of 2 billion dollars. He remarked that he said 2 billion dollars because: "We don't want anyone thinking that we're cheap". Joke or no joke, it just serves to add fuel to the rumor fire."

  • 06.15.2011 10:03 AM PDT
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Everyone always happens to remember leaks that happened to be real. What about Halo Nemesis and Bungie Aerospace leaks? They were confirmed to be fake. Another reason why you shouldn't trust the leak is because it's only a piece of text anyone with decent English language skills could write. Pictures again, are pictures. Possible to fake, but very hard. Actually believeable picture needs more than just a random guy using photoshop.

The last reason you shouldn't believe it isn't so obvious and also not so important. Ironically, it's also the reason I didn't believe the Halo Reach leaks. The reason is, the leaked information sounds or looks too obvious. Let me give an example: the Halo Reach leak mentioned things like perks, for any half intelligent person this sounds like an obvious step towards the Call of Duty formula, which has got pretty popular after Modern Warfare 2. For any intelligent person, it may sound like too obvious, it sounds like the leak was trying to fulfill everyone's expectations. This could mean it might be fake.

What this has to do with the Halo 4 leak? You should already have figured it out by now. Let's see: Call of Duty formula, "perks" in Halo and... weapon customization in Halo! Sounds bit obvious step when you come to think of it, doesn't it? Too obvious? Maybe, maybe not.

I don't say you shouldn't in any way believe this leak, just don't use it as real or even reliable information. That's something that really bugs me.

P.S. Almost forgot, real leaks are very, very, very unlikely to come twelve hours after announcement of the game. Especially if the leaked information had been under embargo for a while, which is what the guy who originally started spreading it around said. If it was real, why didn't it appear before the announcement?

[Edited on 06.15.2011 10:20 AM PDT]

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Frankie confirmed it to be fake

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Of course he 'confirmed' it to be fake... What, do you think he's going to just come out and say "yeah, you guys got it, the leaked info is true!?"

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Posted by: Hydrilus

Posted by: hotshot revan II
Frankie confirmed it to be fake

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Of course he 'confirmed' it to be fake... What, do you think he's going to just come out and say "yeah, you guys got it, the leaked info is true!?"


EXACTLY, we have until the end of NEXT year to find this out, why would he want us to know now? But at the same time.. but leaking this, it makes people like us think and talk and as you know, they use the bungie universe forums everyday. They look at what we say, why we say it, they can tell what WE want and what we DONT want.

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Posted by: Hydrilus

Posted by: hotshot revan II
Frankie confirmed it to be fake

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Of course he 'confirmed' it to be fake... What, do you think he's going to just come out and say "yeah, you guys got it, the leaked info is true!?"

In a situation where leaked info is real, the developers should keep their mouth shut as eventually the truth would be reveled and the developers would be seen as liars. I have never heard about leaks that have been real and have been denied by the developers.

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Posted by: Hydrilus

Posted by: hotshot revan II
Frankie confirmed it to be fake

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Of course he 'confirmed' it to be fake... What, do you think he's going to just come out and say "yeah, you guys got it, the leaked info is true!?"


Or you could consider that he and the rest of 343/MS remain stoic. Bungie never said anything about the Reach leaks because they were true, Frankie has denied the Halo 4 leaks because they're false. Anyone can conjure up a story, pretend it's true and convince the shallow minded it's gospel, that is why those of higher intelligence use objectivity when others have it so. Very. Wrong.

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Posted by: Hydrilus

Posted by: hotshot revan II
Frankie confirmed it to be fake

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Of course he 'confirmed' it to be fake... What, do you think he's going to just come out and say "yeah, you guys got it, the leaked info is true!?"

In a situation where leaked info is real, the developers should keep their mouth shut as eventually the truth would be reveled and the developers would be seen as liars. I have never heard about leaks that have been real and have been denied by the developers.


Do you know who leaked this? Who would be blamed? By Freddie denying this, they couldn't be called liars if none of it was true.
Oh and i'm not trying to be rude but.. other than Freddie.. did any of the developers deny this? All Freddie did was deny the leak.. did he say exactly what was BS? Did he say "this isn't true b/c..etc.."?

  • 06.15.2011 10:28 AM PDT

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Who the hell is "Freddie"?

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Listen, the OP is here trying to tell you why you SHOULD believe it. If you don't want to.. fine. Leave it at that. If you want to to argue.. then PROVE that it's not true without talking about Bungie and/or 343's input.

Is there anything in the leak that contradicts anything from the canon? From what ive read it's all possible. I can see it all happening, i can't find one thing wrong with that crazy story. If it was just made up.. someone went through great lengths to make sure that nothing in that "leak" was contradicted. They probably made a BIG story and realized i have to take this, this, that and all of this out b/c anyone from the forums can easily prove this story wrong.

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Who the hell is "Freddie"?


I lol'd

  • 06.15.2011 10:33 AM PDT

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Posted by: Monitor117
Listen, the OP is here trying to tell you why you SHOULD believe it. If you don't want to.. fine. Leave it at that. If you want to to argue.. then PROVE that it's not true without talking about Bungie and/or 343's input.

Is there anything in the leak that contradicts anything from the canon? From what ive read it's all possible. I can see it all happening, i can't find one thing wrong with that crazy story. If it was just made up.. someone went through great lengths to make sure that nothing in that "leak" was contradicted. They probably made a BIG story and realized i have to take this, this, that and all of this out b/c anyone from the forums can easily prove this story wrong.


You are diseased...

Your argument fell apart in your first paragraph. Prove it's not true without the input of the developers (343) who have denied it? You're a blithering idiot, that's putting it likely.

Guess what? I write stories, I could easily come up with a plausible story post-Halo 3 to explain what happens (and I have), then post it on the Internet and say "oh look, 343 leaked this", then have gullible morons like you believe it without question.

You're new here, but already you've made yourself look like an utter gobshyte.

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Posted by: Monitor117
Listen, the OP is here trying to tell you why you SHOULD believe it. If you don't want to.. fine. Leave it at that. If you want to to argue.. then PROVE that it's not true without talking about Bungie and/or 343's input.

Is there anything in the leak that contradicts anything from the canon? From what ive read it's all possible. I can see it all happening, i can't find one thing wrong with that crazy story. If it was just made up.. someone went through great lengths to make sure that nothing in that "leak" was contradicted. They probably made a BIG story and realized i have to take this, this, that and all of this out b/c anyone from the forums can easily prove this story wrong.

If you only had read my first post where I explain why the leak shouldn't be trusted. Of course there is no hard evidence that it would be fake, but if you use common sense, you can figure out that it's pretty unreliable. I wouldn't trust it in any situation unless it was offcially confirmed by anyone from 343i.

P.S. It's Frankie, not "Freddie".

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