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This account is new here...I am not new here. I admit i've been gone for a while, but the Halo 4 trailer brought me back. That leak is probably what keeps me around tbh.

Posted by: tsassi2

P.S. It's Frankie, not "Freddie".


That's why I lol'd


[quote]Posted by: tsassi2
[quote]Of course there is no hard evidence that it would be fake...


lolwut?

  • 06.15.2011 10:47 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Well the leak has been confirmed fake, so to quote Blackadder, "why don't you sod off and die"?

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Posted by: ajw34307
Well the leak has been confirmed fake, so to quote Blackadder, "why don't you sod off and die"?


I'm just going to follow this with a new thread with an even better question.

  • 06.15.2011 10:54 AM PDT

If Frank O'Connor stated it was false, then I see no reason why we shouldn't believe him. If it was true, then 343 Industries would of ignored the matter, entirely.

Heck, maybe the leak was correct, but the fact the guy who formed the Halo 4 development team said it was false - well, that makes me think otherwise.

  • 06.15.2011 10:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: Monitor117
This account is new here...I am not new here. I admit i've been gone for a while, but the Halo 4 trailer brought me back. That leak is probably what keeps me around tbh.

Posted by: tsassi2

P.S. It's Frankie, not "Freddie".


That's why I lol'd


[quote]Posted by: tsassi2
[quote]Of course there is no hard evidence that it would be fake...


lolwut?

Now I am actually starting to question your comprehension abilities. There is no hard evidence that clearly shows it's fake, unless of course you have seen a gameplay video which completely shows otherwise than what's written in the leaked piece of text. This doesn't mean I believe it to be true as there is a reason to not believe it, a reason that can only be comprehended by people with some degree of common sense.

P.S. You aren't a new member to Bungie.net? Man, I should really lower my expectations when it comes to peoples' ablility to type in correct grammar and perform simple tasks like quoting a post and using common sense.

  • 06.15.2011 11:05 AM PDT

Didn't Frankie say bull-blam!- on neogaf or HBO?

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Posted by: tsassi2
Posted by: Monitor117
This account is new here...I am not new here. I admit i've been gone for a while, but the Halo 4 trailer brought me back. That leak is probably what keeps me around tbh.

Posted by: tsassi2

P.S. It's Frankie, not "Freddie".


That's why I lol'd


[quote]Posted by: tsassi2
[quote]Of course there is no hard evidence that it would be fake...


lolwut?

Now I am actually starting to question your comprehension abilities. There is no hard evidence that clearly shows it's fake, unless of course you have seen a gameplay video which completely shows otherwise than what's written in the leaked piece of text. This doesn't mean I believe it to be true as there is a reason to not believe it, a reason that can only be comprehended by people with some degree of common sense.

P.S. You aren't a new member to Bungie.net? Man, I should really lower my expectations when it comes to peoples' ablility to type in correct grammar and perform simple tasks like quoting a post and using common sense.


I'm sorry that you couldn't understand what i was saying by "lolwut" I was saying.. "there's no hard evidence? then why don't you just stfu".

I should have not been you cryptic, i apologize >.>

  • 06.15.2011 11:17 AM PDT
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Posted by: Monitor117
I'm sorry that you couldn't understand what i was saying by "lolwut" I was saying.. "there's no hard evidence? then why don't you just stfu".

I should have not been you cryptic, i apologize >.>

I owe you an apologize too, but am not sure do you desrve it. It isn't exactly nice to say "Then why don't you just stfu".

Anyway, why should I "stfu" if there is no hard evidence saying it's fake? There is still some evidence or more precisely: something you can reason by common sense. Just believe me, the source has no reliablity at all, no original source, no pictures, nothing.

This debate is going nowhere, I'm going to stop it here, you can believe whatever you want, just don't argue without using proper grammar and common sense. Also, I decided you can have your apologize even though you don't deserve it, a total jerk is the last thing I would like to be.

Arrivederci!

  • 06.15.2011 11:53 AM PDT
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Posted by: tsassi2
Posted by: Monitor117
I'm sorry that you couldn't understand what i was saying by "lolwut" I was saying.. "there's no hard evidence? then why don't you just stfu".

I should have not been you cryptic, i apologize >.>

I owe you an apologize too, but am not sure do you desrve it. It isn't exactly nice to say "Then why don't you just stfu".

Anyway, why should I "stfu" if there is no hard evidence saying it's fake? There is still some evidence or more precisely: something you can reason by common sense. Just believe me, the source has no reliablity at all, no original source, no pictures, nothing.

This debate is going nowhere, I'm going to stop it here, you can believe whatever you want, just don't argue without using proper grammar and common sense. Also, I decided you can have your apologize even though you don't deserve it, a total jerk is the last thing I would like to be.

Arrivederci!


I see where you tried to be polite and i'll respect you for it. I wouldn't really tell you to stfu, i haven't told someone to "stfu" since i was in high school.

I was just simply stating that you admitted to there being no hard evidence.. so why speak?

That is all.

  • 06.15.2011 11:58 AM PDT


Posted by: Sniffy66
Didn't Frankie say bull-blam!- on neogaf or HBO?


yeah, he did. but OP doesn't care.

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Posted by: Sniffy66
Didn't Frankie say bull-blam!- on neogaf or HBO?


yeah, he did. but OP doesn't care.


Thank you Sniffy66 <3
I couldn't have said it any better.

  • 06.15.2011 12:02 PM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: Monitor117

Posted by: soulider assasin
There has been leaked information about Halo 4 recently and I believe it simply because the leaked Halo:Reach pics were EXACTLY in the full game besides the yellow hud but the hud was yellow in early development.

Also the info sounds believable because it said ther's a new set of enemies and characters in Halo 4 and Halo 4 is to be the start of a new trilogy in the Halo Universe and it said something about some features in Halo 4 will bring FPS games to a new levels and I read something about Halo 4(non-leaked information)that Halo 4 will start a new generation of gaming or something similar to that.


I agree with you, I've stated many times on the forums that Bungie has leaked information in the past and denied it just so the Bungie fans could find out for themselves on release day. But you may want to support your opinion with more evidence. Those are the only threads that go far here whether you're right or wrong.

You're gonna have to do a lot of work, open up a lot of tabs and write EVERYTHING that can support your speculation otherwise the trolls will find your thoughts and ideas invalid :/

Nonetheless I agree with you. You're just gonna have to convince everyone else to the point that they can't argue with you. Use the books and canon material :)


There is no canon material to support this "leaked" information, there is no Sigma 7 or any evidence of human involvement with the Forerunners. How about we look at the facts? Frankie has declared this leaked info as utter rubbish, when this happened with Reach Bungie said nothing because it was true and there was evidence from pictures.

What do we have here? A guy saying "this guy told me about this, it must be true lawl".


1) Humanity had been researching Forerunner ruins for decades, if not a centurary, before the Covenant War.

2) He never said it was true, he said take from it what you will. Don't shoot the messenger.

I, myself, remain a skeptic; no one that has anything to do with Halo has ever flatly denied a leak like this. They either ignore it or skirt around it to avoid being accused of lying. Though this is a new company so who knows. though certain elements could work; sea battles would be cool (and anticipated) and a Campaign/firefight only weapon attatchment system like CoD could also work with an option for multiplayer.

Frankie did say "dramatic innovations" will be made for H4 while retaining the core mechanics. Lets face it: the original Halo gameplay is getting pretty damn old. We need something new and fresh to add to the old for it to be fun.

[Edited on 06.15.2011 12:21 PM PDT]

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: Monitor117

Posted by: soulider assasin
There has been leaked information about Halo 4 recently and I believe it simply because the leaked Halo:Reach pics were EXACTLY in the full game besides the yellow hud but the hud was yellow in early development.

Also the info sounds believable because it said ther's a new set of enemies and characters in Halo 4 and Halo 4 is to be the start of a new trilogy in the Halo Universe and it said something about some features in Halo 4 will bring FPS games to a new levels and I read something about Halo 4(non-leaked information)that Halo 4 will start a new generation of gaming or something similar to that.


I agree with you, I've stated many times on the forums that Bungie has leaked information in the past and denied it just so the Bungie fans could find out for themselves on release day. But you may want to support your opinion with more evidence. Those are the only threads that go far here whether you're right or wrong.

You're gonna have to do a lot of work, open up a lot of tabs and write EVERYTHING that can support your speculation otherwise the trolls will find your thoughts and ideas invalid :/

Nonetheless I agree with you. You're just gonna have to convince everyone else to the point that they can't argue with you. Use the books and canon material :)


There is no canon material to support this "leaked" information, there is no Sigma 7 or any evidence of human involvement with the Forerunners. How about we look at the facts? Frankie has declared this leaked info as utter rubbish, when this happened with Reach Bungie said nothing because it was true and there was evidence from pictures.

What do we have here? A guy saying "this guy told me about this, it must be true lawl".


1) Humanity had been researching Forerunner ruins for decades, if not a centurary, before the Covenant War.

2) He never said it was true, he said take from it what you will. Don't shoot the messenger.

I, myself, remain a skeptic, though certain elements could work. Sea battles would be cool (and anticipated) and a Campaign/firefight only weapon attatchment system like CoD could also work with an option for multiplayer.

Frankie did say "dramatic innovations" will be made for H4 while retaining the core mechanics. Lets face it: the original Halo gameplay is getting pretty damn old. We need something new and fresh to add to the old for it to be fun.

^Winner

  • 06.15.2011 12:19 PM PDT

Everyones so impatient Just wait for the game to come out

  • 06.15.2011 12:23 PM PDT


Posted by: Monitor117

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: Monitor117

Posted by: soulider assasin
There has been leaked information about Halo 4 recently and I believe it simply because the leaked Halo:Reach pics were EXACTLY in the full game besides the yellow hud but the hud was yellow in early development.

Also the info sounds believable because it said ther's a new set of enemies and characters in Halo 4 and Halo 4 is to be the start of a new trilogy in the Halo Universe and it said something about some features in Halo 4 will bring FPS games to a new levels and I read something about Halo 4(non-leaked information)that Halo 4 will start a new generation of gaming or something similar to that.


I agree with you, I've stated many times on the forums that Bungie has leaked information in the past and denied it just so the Bungie fans could find out for themselves on release day. But you may want to support your opinion with more evidence. Those are the only threads that go far here whether you're right or wrong.

You're gonna have to do a lot of work, open up a lot of tabs and write EVERYTHING that can support your speculation otherwise the trolls will find your thoughts and ideas invalid :/

Nonetheless I agree with you. You're just gonna have to convince everyone else to the point that they can't argue with you. Use the books and canon material :)


There is no canon material to support this "leaked" information, there is no Sigma 7 or any evidence of human involvement with the Forerunners. How about we look at the facts? Frankie has declared this leaked info as utter rubbish, when this happened with Reach Bungie said nothing because it was true and there was evidence from pictures.

What do we have here? A guy saying "this guy told me about this, it must be true lawl".


1) Humanity had been researching Forerunner ruins for decades, if not a centurary, before the Covenant War.

2) He never said it was true, he said take from it what you will. Don't shoot the messenger.

I, myself, remain a skeptic, though certain elements could work. Sea battles would be cool (and anticipated) and a Campaign/firefight only weapon attatchment system like CoD could also work with an option for multiplayer.

Frankie did say "dramatic innovations" will be made for H4 while retaining the core mechanics. Lets face it: the original Halo gameplay is getting pretty damn old. We need something new and fresh to add to the old for it to be fun.

^Winner


I'm not agreeing it is real, I said I'm a skeptic until proven otherwise. Some of the plot elements seem a little dodgy to me, (though it is merely a leak). I was merely correcting some mistakes on a canon level and otherwise ajw made while saying I remain neutral on the topic.

Lets wait for more information before we start calling it fake or real. Neither side has any real evidence suggesting it is real or fake other then the word of someone who has every motive, reason, and right to lie to keep a secret about this game.

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Posted by: HATFIELDER
Everyones so impatient Just wait for the game to come out

  • 06.15.2011 12:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: hotshot revan II
Frankie confirmed it to be fake

/Thread


they also said there's a super huge secret of sandtrap that no one has found yet. and that in halo 2 there was a golden warthog other then the picture.

They also said that the halo:reach leaks were fake...other then yellow hud and Jorge making some mods to his turret, they were real.

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Posted by: hotshot revan II
Frankie confirmed it to be fake

/Thread


they also said there's a super huge secret of sandtrap that no one has found yet. and that in halo 2 there was a golden warthog other then the picture.

They also said that the halo:reach leaks were fake...other then yellow hud and Jorge making some mods to his turret, they were real.

This guy is full of win.

  • 06.15.2011 12:54 PM PDT

Thing is, as others have said. Didn't Bungie and such ignore such leaks if they were true(somewhat)?

Just wondering, could somebody link to Frankies statement about it being fake?

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Thing is, as others have said. Didn't Bungie and such ignore such leaks if they were true(somewhat)?

Just wondering, could somebody link to Frankies statement about it being fake?


If they ignored it, everyone would know what would be happening in halo 4 more than a year in advance.. that would not be so cool for us AND their franchise.

  • 06.15.2011 1:03 PM PDT

I don't believe the leaks as of now. UNSC's presence on the world seems super cheap way to get Master Chief ammo drops and somebody to take orders from.

343 has a great chance to have lots of character development with Chief and Cortana alone. Randomly tossing marines in there ruins it.

(Note, if the humans came from... Spirit of Fire or a ship that did a blind jump during the war and ended up here... I'd accept that.)

  • 06.15.2011 1:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: Monitor117

Posted by: soulider assasin
There has been leaked information about Halo 4 recently and I believe it simply because the leaked Halo:Reach pics were EXACTLY in the full game besides the yellow hud but the hud was yellow in early development.

Also the info sounds believable because it said ther's a new set of enemies and characters in Halo 4 and Halo 4 is to be the start of a new trilogy in the Halo Universe and it said something about some features in Halo 4 will bring FPS games to a new levels and I read something about Halo 4(non-leaked information)that Halo 4 will start a new generation of gaming or something similar to that.


I agree with you, I've stated many times on the forums that Bungie has leaked information in the past and denied it just so the Bungie fans could find out for themselves on release day. But you may want to support your opinion with more evidence. Those are the only threads that go far here whether you're right or wrong.

You're gonna have to do a lot of work, open up a lot of tabs and write EVERYTHING that can support your speculation otherwise the trolls will find your thoughts and ideas invalid :/

Nonetheless I agree with you. You're just gonna have to convince everyone else to the point that they can't argue with you. Use the books and canon material :)


There is no canon material to support this "leaked" information, there is no Sigma 7 or any evidence of human involvement with the Forerunners. How about we look at the facts? Frankie has declared this leaked info as utter rubbish, when this happened with Reach Bungie said nothing because it was true and there was evidence from pictures.

What do we have here? A guy saying "this guy told me about this, it must be true lawl".


1) Humanity had been researching Forerunner ruins for decades, if not a centurary, before the Covenant War.

2) He never said it was true, he said take from it what you will. Don't shoot the messenger.

I, myself, remain a skeptic; no one that has anything to do with Halo has ever flatly denied a leak like this. They either ignore it or skirt around it to avoid being accused of lying. Though this is a new company so who knows. though certain elements could work; sea battles would be cool (and anticipated) and a Campaign/firefight only weapon attatchment system like CoD could also work with an option for multiplayer.

Frankie did say "dramatic innovations" will be made for H4 while retaining the core mechanics. Lets face it: the original Halo gameplay is getting pretty damn old. We need something new and fresh to add to the old for it to be fun.


1) Researching =/= being involved with.

2) He has been spouting ridiculous fallacies and completely disregarding any evidence given against him, then sucking up to other members who tell him the same thing.

  • 06.15.2011 1:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: Monitor117
lol what remake? Do you mean Halo 4?
They couldn't deny the Morello leaks, it was about to be announced.
Who would make a denial so obvious, denials are usually made a year or so before the truth. Why would they want the truth leaked so early, ide deny it too!

.. and ive heard this sigma 7 BS before.. I dont know when.. or from where.. but Sigma 7 exists.. ive heard of this before and it WAS halo referenced.


Stop trolling

  • 06.15.2011 1:24 PM PDT

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(Note, if the humans came from... Spirit of Fire or a ship that did a blind jump during the war and ended up here... I'd accept that.)

  • 06.15.2011 1:25 PM PDT


Posted by: TheGreenAlloy

Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: Monitor117
*troll*


Stop trolling


"were it so easy..."

  • 06.15.2011 1:26 PM PDT

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