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"I'm sorry man, I don't even know why I got in on this side... SHOTGUN!!!"
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Posted by: SSgt Shapiro
I thought it was impossible to see an Elite (or any Covenant tech) when cloaked even with thermals?
Nope, they apparently give off an even bigger heat signature.
OT: Having seen every single movie with a Predator in it (Predator, Ped 2, Pred 3, and both AVPs) They do not strike as:
1) Being that strong
2) Being that quick.
The movies depict them as weak when it comes to the priority of preserving the story. The sad thing about the Predator series is that they almost always succumb to the "Stormtrooper effect" and they die at the hands of the protagonist.
They DO have some useful technology over the Elites, such as various vision modes. Outside of the vision modes, however, Elites have everything the Predators do but better.
1) A plasma rifle has more shots in it and does similar damage to a Pred caster (books depict them as being a weaker, but faster version of these infamous weapons; obliterating body parts with one shot and such).It doesn't. Take the plasmacaster from AvP and compare it to a plasma rifle. The caster would only require one shot, whereas the rifle would probably require 10-30% of it's battery to cause that kind of damage. (To put it in context, the scene where Scar is killing of Aliens in the tunnel after Lex gives him the caster. The caster destroys torsos, limbs, various Xenomorph bits everywhere.)
2) An energy sword would cut up any and all of the Pred's knives and swords. In a proper duelling situation, the Predator will probably lose. The Predator wouldn't try to make itself visible or have itself be in striking distance unless its going in for a sneak-attack, or it accepts the Elites offer to duel.
3) Preds are trained to hunt; Elites are trained to fight. When an Elite sees the Pred coming on his motion sensor, it will turn into a 1v1 brawl that, simply put, the Pred would lose. Elites' have shields remember.
Like I've said before, melee-based weaponry can bypass the shields. The plasmacaster is also presumed to be a hell of a lot more powerful than typical plasma rounds. Shields would be toast as well as 3/4 of your torso. The Predator could bypass the motion tracker considering it's a patient hunter and can move slowly as to prevent the tracker from spotting it. I'll admit though, this is not likely and unless the tracker is disabled, this could be quite a problem for the Predator.
You haven't read the books have you? For example: one single needle round smashed a marines internal organs, turning them to "meat." Ordinary plasma rounds are much, much more powerful then leaving a small burn mark. They really do melt limbs off and bake organs with single shots.
But of course the only comparible weapon Elites have to the caster is the Plasma Launcher or FRG. I meant only to point out the Plasma rifle is much more powerful then you'd think.
Yeah, I'm sorry I kind of exaggerated my point in that post. The Plasma Rifle is really destructive, and in the context of the book it does devastating damage with such little effort. The argument I was really trying to make was that the Caster has a bigger area of effect and overall power.
I didn't really want to take into consideration the FRG or Plasma Launcher because it's not too likely that an Elite is going to be wielding those. Especially in an environment like a jungle where this scenario would take place. It's more likely they'd have a rifle.
As for the Needler, we weren't discussing that earlier. The Needler would most likely kill the Predator. To me, it's the same deal with the FRG and PL; I don't picture Elites carrying needlers too often, but it's more likely than a FRG or PL.