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Subject: Elite vs Predator.


Posted by: SSgt Shapiro

Posted by: the n00b pwner
Energy shields are different than regular shields in that they do not work based on pressure in any way, they only work on force. If you have increased pressure on a regular shield then it will be more likely to break, but on an energy shield it will instead divert more energy to the smaller area and will be no more like to break given the same amount of force.

When a spartan or elite is assassinated, it is the force of the blow that breaks the shields. The only difference from a regular melee is that they follow through with the knife instead of bouncing off of the shield.

Learn how shields work before calling me a troll.


So.... What about this?:http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pressure

And no, a stab based melee with a fine pointed weapon is going to be more likely to pop an energy shield. With the extremely small amount of surface area at the tip of the weapon, all of that pressure/force is going to be greatly enhanced; popping the shields and penetrating into the body.

To remain on topic, the Predator have a vast arsenal of stab based weaponry:
-Wrist Blades (w/ projectile capabilities)
-Telescopic Spear
-Glaive
-Maul
-Wrist Mounted Scimitars
-Spear Gun
-Bladed Discs

All of these are capable of penetrating a Sangheili Combat Harness considering the sheer strength of an adult male Predator. Combine that with it's remarkable hunting skills and profeciency in hand-to-hand combat, that Predator is going to win the fight like many others have said.

The difference between a typical punch and a stab from a blade is the surface area. I thought I explained this in my last post; not to mention the other examples RKOSNAKE and I have given you. It seems like you're just ignoring them.

Maybe you're right, but you're astoundingly unspecific with your reasoning and examples. Regardless, if you really feel like you need to prove a point about this then make your own thread. This conversation has pretty much derailed from the original post and it's getting old.

*facepalm* Did you even read my post? Pressure = Force/Area. A knife has decreased area which gives it increased pressure, but force in completely and totally unchanged. Whether you punch with a needle or a concrete block it does not affect the force (assuming mass and velocity remain the same).

Now if a predator is strong enough to break an elite's shield in one hit, then this doesn't matter. But I think that it would take a second hit, giving just enough time for the elite to get an upper hand in a fight.

Please tell me that you finally understand.

  • 06.27.2011 8:12 AM PDT

"I'm sorry man, I don't even know why I got in on this side... SHOTGUN!!!"

n00b,

Honestly, I did read your posts but this one actually makes sense because it was more specified.

I'll compromise my standpoint and agree with you on the matter of force. However, I still believe that with that increased pressure from the small surface area, it's still going to pop the shields. The reason I see it this way is because the potential force that an adult Predator could exhert would be dramatically high because of it's strength. So even though the force wouldn't be affected by what the Predator would use, it would still be a high degree of force being brought down on a small area of the shields.

As for your second paragraph, I could see the Elite managing to strike a blow even if it was impaled, but as you think the Elite will have time to strike back, I also think the Predator will most likely attack while camouflaged.

Also, I tried looking up how the energy shield system for a Combat Harness works. Where did you get your information? Most of what you explained in the previous posts were not found on pages regarding Sangheili Personal Shield Systems. So if you could post any kind of information from a primary source that would be great. The only reason I'm agitated discussing this with you is because I don't understand where you're getting this information from.

  • 06.27.2011 8:34 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
I don't see how Elites have any chance of winning this, I mean, we are talking about Predators, the same creatures that would go directly into the heart of a Xenomorph hive to kill their Queen so they could ascend in rank and honor. This is a little description of the Yautja Clan Leaders.

The only way to become a Clan Leader is to clean out an entire Xenomorph hive larger than 300 members in population with a maximum of two others. When this has been proven, the three (or fewer) Yautja all become Clan Leaders. They become the forefathers of that clan and will repopulate with females of their choosing. In order to be elligable for the trials of a hive cleansing, each member of the trio must have at least 3 Queen skull trophies.

Apart from this example, we also see a trio of Predators fighting an incredibly big Xenomorph horde in Aliens vs Predator, this horde consisted of thousands of Xenomorphs, with dozens of them killed by the Predators in close quarters combat. Now, humans in the Aliens universe seemed to be more advanced than the ones in the UNSC. By the year 2122 [Alien] the Colonial Marines had a Rail gun as one of their weapons, their heavy machine gun was able to track enemies and a newer model was able to change the trajectory of its bullets should more than one target be available, etc. Regardless, the Xenomorphs were able to wipe out everybody but Ripley.

Now, 200 years after, in the year 2381 to be exact, the events of Alien: Resurrection take place, there, a military grade ship gets overrun by 12 Xenomorphs after they escaped their containment cell due to their acidic blood. While the humans can't properly contain them, Predators are known to go to hives, capturing and locking Queens without troubles for breeding purposes due to their metals being resistant to acid.

Now, to the matter of "inferior weaponry" Predators (as shown in comics and books) possess remarkable weaponry. One of their infantry classes counts with a weapon called "The Blazer" I will leave the description here.

The blazer is a shoulder-mounted energy projector that fires a sweeping inferno beam. Hotter than many stars at its core, an inferno beam works by instantly heating objects it touches to the point of spontaneous combustion. Given this ability, the weapon is designed to hit as many enemies as possible by sweeping in large arcs across its primary target.

Since it does not need to be aimed with such precision, the Blazer can continue to fire even while on the move. This weapon is far too powerful for normal hunts and is only used for warfare and for killing escaping Alien Queens. It has also been seen in a hand-held form that looks like a rifle.

It is only gifted to those that are part of the Predator military due to its destructive potential, due to the large amount of dishonourable kills that would occur from using this in a hunting ground.

When upgraded, the Blazer Predator mounts a set of two linked blazers, one on each shoulder. The dual blazers coordinate their fire in order to maximize the damage they inflict, by keeping as many enemies on fire as possible. With this upgrade, a single Blazer Predator (The infantry class) can set an entire enemy platoon on fire in seconds.


Along with that little weapon, we have their arsenal of nets and mines used in their hunts, this is the description of the laser net used in Aliens Vs Predator: Requiem.

The laser net is a flat triangular-shaped device that, when deployed, automatically secures itself against a solid surface. When remotely activated, the device produces beams that spans a void until making contact with another solid surface. The lasers do not damage that surface, only slicing through organic materials. When two or more nets are placed across from each other they create a laser 'grid', allowing nothing through but the smallest of creatures.

Other mines and nets that they use are this.

Fire Trap: An explosive mine. Featured in Predator: Concrete Jungle
EMP mine: Disables mechanical devices. Featured in Predator: Concrete Jungle
Sonic trap: Used to stun and temporarily paralyze an enemy or prey. Featured in Predator: Concrete Jungle
Plasma mine: Vaporizes the flesh off the enemy, leaving just the skeleton. Featured in Predator: Concrete Jungle
Remote bomb: Detonated by the Predator or it explodes when in contact with a target. Can be stuck to surfaces. Featured in Aliens versus Predator 2
Laser trap: Creates a laser field that can easily cut through flesh (See above laser net). Featured in AvP:Extinction.
Razor Net: A hunting net intertwined with finely spun, and extremely sharp, wire. Featured in Predator 2 and the first AVP film.


On top of that, Predators can also combine weapons to make them even stronger, this was shown in Aliens vs Predator: Requiem, when one of Wolf's (The Predator) Plasma casters (he had 2, one on each shoulder) was damaged, he removed both of them from their places at his shoulders and combined them to create a Plasma Cannon, this was a stronger, albeit slower version of the caster.

Their starship (or at least the Mothership) also posses a similar weapon to the Covenant's glassing beam as shown in Aliens vs Predator when the Mothership uses the weapon to dig a kilometer (or more, can't remember) on the ice, in mere seconds. Now, should the Covenant were able to board the ship, it also possesses a self-destruct mechanism just like their wrist gauntlets.

So, after being done with this post, which I took me about half an hour due to me having to research on Predators beyond the movies, I would like to hear how an Elite would be able to beat a War equipped/Non-youngblood Predator, for those wondering what a youngblood is, they are basically Minors in the Covenant hierarchy system, too young to fight Xenomorphs (Celtic, Chopper and Scar from Aliens vs Predator were youngbloods for example, Wolf was not as shown by his acid resistant gear).

  • 06.27.2011 10:13 AM PDT

Elites would be harder to fool, due to Predators' thermal vision, they could be fooled if the Elites found a way to make their bodies cold enough to be unseen.

  • 06.27.2011 11:16 AM PDT

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Posted by: spartan117cah
Elites would be harder to fool, due to Predators' thermal vision, they could be fooled if the Elites found a way to make their bodies cold enough to be unseen.


They would switch to a vision that would be able to see the elite. Preds ain't stupid you know.

  • 06.27.2011 11:21 AM PDT


Posted by: Boba_Fett

Posted by: spartan117cah
Elites would be harder to fool, due to Predators' thermal vision, they could be fooled if the Elites found a way to make their bodies cold enough to be unseen.


They would switch to a vision that would be able to see the elite. Preds ain't stupid you know.


Neither is Arnold, and it worked for him.

Pro-tip: watch the damn movies. Arnold covered himself with mud witch blinded him to the Predator, allowing him to kill it.

  • 06.27.2011 11:23 AM PDT

I'm LITERALLY better than Tim Tebow
Posted by: XxLordo4Xx
Better than Tebow.


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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Boba_Fett

Posted by: spartan117cah
Elites would be harder to fool, due to Predators' thermal vision, they could be fooled if the Elites found a way to make their bodies cold enough to be unseen.


They would switch to a vision that would be able to see the elite. Preds ain't stupid you know.


Neither is Arnold, and it worked for him.

Pro-tip: watch the damn movies. Arnold covered himself with mud witch blinded him to the Predator, allowing him to kill it.


That Pred was retarded. He didn't switch to another vision that would have let him seen Arny.

Pro-tip: watch Pred 2.

  • 06.27.2011 11:26 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: Boba_Fett

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Boba_Fett

Posted by: spartan117cah
Elites would be harder to fool, due to Predators' thermal vision, they could be fooled if the Elites found a way to make their bodies cold enough to be unseen.


They would switch to a vision that would be able to see the elite. Preds ain't stupid you know.


Neither is Arnold, and it worked for him.

Pro-tip: watch the damn movies. Arnold covered himself with mud witch blinded him to the Predator, allowing him to kill it.


That Pred was retarded. He didn't switch to another vision that would have let him seen Arny.

Pro-tip: watch Pred 2.


Or better yet, Aliens vs Predator and Aliens vs Predator: Requiem, at least they fully use their masks and weapons in those two movies.

  • 06.27.2011 12:27 PM PDT

elites have numbers and skills on there sides if you have ever wathced avp predaters always lose against aleins because of there quickiness and steathly predators suck against other oppents with steathl, elites have steathl making the predators skills worthless

  • 06.27.2011 2:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: deltaforce000
elites have numbers and skills on there sides if you have ever wathced avp predaters always lose against aleins because of there quickiness and steathly predators suck against other oppents with steathl, elites have steathl making the predators skills worthless


Aliens vs Predator: 3 Youngbloods (Youngbloods are Yautja teens that are making the rite of initiation to the Yautja society by killing their first Xenomorph, so not fully developed or skilled.) Arrive to a Hunting zone and are subsequently killed because the humans that arrived first awakened the Xenomorph Queen, releasing the Drones earlier, not to mention, they took their Plasma Casters. (Youngblood armor is not acid-resistant and they are not as well equipped as Blooded Yautja) Nonetheless, Scar is able to take out several Aliens and fights the Queen, dying in the process.

Aliens vs Predator: A skilled Yautja (Wolf) Arrives to Earth after the Scout ship that separated from the Mother ship is attacked from within by a Predalien, the Yautja aboard blasts a hole through the ship's hull with it's Plasma Caster (showing the true power of the weapon.) and is killed by the Predalien, making the ship crash into the planet and releasing an unknown number of Facehuggers into the outskirts of a town in Colorado. Wolf arrives and begins to kill Xenomorphs effortlessly, even taking on (and overpowering) two fully grown Xenomorphs in hand to hand combat, before the Predalien interrupted the fight and punched him aside, but in the end, Wolf was able to kill the Predalien with just his wristblade. (He could have used his Whip or his Discs but he decided to fight with honor) and was killed by the Nuclear Explosion caused by a US Government plane that whipped out all the Xenomorphs in the area along with the Predalien and Wolf.

Anyways, Yautja can also detect camouflaged opponents, given how their main vision mode when wearing their masks is thermal vision, as it is known by anybody who has read The Flood, the camouflage that Spec Ops Elites use gives off huge thermal readings and thus, the Yautja's mask would show him a 7 foot tall red spot in front of him.

  • 06.27.2011 3:12 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
I don't see how Elites have any chance of winning this, I mean, we are talking about Predators, the same creatures that would go directly into the heart of a Xenomorph hive to kill their Queen so they could ascend in rank and honor. This is a little description of the Yautja Clan Leaders.

The only way to become a Clan Leader is to clean out an entire Xenomorph hive larger than 300 members in population with a maximum of two others. When this has been proven, the three (or fewer) Yautja all become Clan Leaders. They become the forefathers of that clan and will repopulate with females of their choosing. In order to be elligable for the trials of a hive cleansing, each member of the trio must have at least 3 Queen skull trophies.

Apart from this example, we also see a trio of Predators fighting an incredibly big Xenomorph horde in Aliens vs Predator, this horde consisted of thousands of Xenomorphs, with dozens of them killed by the Predators in close quarters combat. Now, humans in the Aliens universe seemed to be more advanced than the ones in the UNSC. By the year 2122 [Alien] the Colonial Marines had a Rail gun as one of their weapons, their heavy machine gun was able to track enemies and a newer model was able to change the trajectory of its bullets should more than one target be available, etc. Regardless, the Xenomorphs were able to wipe out everybody but Ripley.

Now, 200 years after, in the year 2381 to be exact, the events of Alien: Resurrection take place, there, a military grade ship gets overrun by 12 Xenomorphs after they escaped their containment cell due to their acidic blood. While the humans can't properly contain them, Predators are known to go to hives, capturing and locking Queens without troubles for breeding purposes due to their metals being resistant to acid.

Now, to the matter of "inferior weaponry" Predators (as shown in comics and books) possess remarkable weaponry. One of their infantry classes counts with a weapon called "The Blazer" I will leave the description here.

The blazer is a shoulder-mounted energy projector that fires a sweeping inferno beam. Hotter than many stars at its core, an inferno beam works by instantly heating objects it touches to the point of spontaneous combustion. Given this ability, the weapon is designed to hit as many enemies as possible by sweeping in large arcs across its primary target.

Since it does not need to be aimed with such precision, the Blazer can continue to fire even while on the move. This weapon is far too powerful for normal hunts and is only used for warfare and for killing escaping Alien Queens. It has also been seen in a hand-held form that looks like a rifle.

It is only gifted to those that are part of the Predator military due to its destructive potential, due to the large amount of dishonourable kills that would occur from using this in a hunting ground.

When upgraded, the Blazer Predator mounts a set of two linked blazers, one on each shoulder. The dual blazers coordinate their fire in order to maximize the damage they inflict, by keeping as many enemies on fire as possible. With this upgrade, a single Blazer Predator (The infantry class) can set an entire enemy platoon on fire in seconds.


Along with that little weapon, we have their arsenal of nets and mines used in their hunts, this is the description of the laser net used in Aliens Vs Predator: Requiem.

The laser net is a flat triangular-shaped device that, when deployed, automatically secures itself against a solid surface. When remotely activated, the device produces beams that spans a void until making contact with another solid surface. The lasers do not damage that surface, only slicing through organic materials. When two or more nets are placed across from each other they create a laser 'grid', allowing nothing through but the smallest of creatures.

Other mines and nets that they use are this.

Fire Trap: An explosive mine. Featured in Predator: Concrete Jungle
EMP mine: Disables mechanical devices. Featured in Predator: Concrete Jungle
Sonic trap: Used to stun and temporarily paralyze an enemy or prey. Featured in Predator: Concrete Jungle
Plasma mine: Vaporizes the flesh off the enemy, leaving just the skeleton. Featured in Predator: Concrete Jungle
Remote bomb: Detonated by the Predator or it explodes when in contact with a target. Can be stuck to surfaces. Featured in Aliens versus Predator 2
Laser trap: Creates a laser field that can easily cut through flesh (See above laser net). Featured in AvP:Extinction.
Razor Net: A hunting net intertwined with finely spun, and extremely sharp, wire. Featured in Predator 2 and the first AVP film.


On top of that, Predators can also combine weapons to make them even stronger, this was shown in Aliens vs Predator: Requiem, when one of Wolf's (The Predator) Plasma casters (he had 2, one on each shoulder) was damaged, he removed both of them from their places at his shoulders and combined them to create a Plasma Cannon, this was a stronger, albeit slower version of the caster.

Their starship (or at least the Mothership) also posses a similar weapon to the Covenant's glassing beam as shown in Aliens vs Predator when the Mothership uses the weapon to dig a kilometer (or more, can't remember) on the ice, in mere seconds. Now, should the Covenant were able to board the ship, it also possesses a self-destruct mechanism just like their wrist gauntlets.

So, after being done with this post, which I took me about half an hour due to me having to research on Predators beyond the movies, I would like to hear how an Elite would be able to beat a War equipped/Non-youngblood Predator, for those wondering what a youngblood is, they are basically Minors in the Covenant hierarchy system, too young to fight Xenomorphs (Celtic, Chopper and Scar from Aliens vs Predator were youngbloods for example, Wolf was not as shown by his acid resistant gear).

Posted by: deltaforce000
elites have numbers and skills on there sides if you have ever wathced avp predaters always lose against aleins because of there quickiness and steathly predators suck against other oppents with steathl, elites have steathl making the predators skills worthless


Aliens vs Predator: 3 Youngbloods (Youngbloods are Yautja teens that are making the rite of initiation to the Yautja society by killing their first Xenomorph, so not fully developed or skilled.) Arrive to a Hunting zone and are subsequently killed because the humans that arrived first awakened the Xenomorph Queen, releasing the Drones earlier, not to mention, they took their Plasma Casters. (Youngblood armor is not acid-resistant and they are not as well equipped as Blooded Yautja) Nonetheless, Scar is able to take out several Aliens and fights the Queen, dying in the process.

Aliens vs Predator: A skilled Yautja (Wolf) Arrives to Earth after the Scout ship that separated from the Mother ship is attacked from within by a Predalien, the Yautja aboard blasts a hole through the ship's hull with it's Plasma Caster (showing the true power of the weapon.) and is killed by the Predalien, making the ship crash into the planet and releasing an unknown number of Facehuggers into the outskirts of a town in Colorado. Wolf arrives and begins to kill Xenomorphs effortlessly, even taking on (and overpowering) two fully grown Xenomorphs in hand to hand combat, before the Predalien interrupted the fight and punched him aside, but in the end, Wolf was able to kill the Predalien with just his wristblade. (He could have used his Whip or his Discs but he decided to fight with honor) and was killed by the Nuclear Explosion caused by a US Government plane that whipped out all the Xenomorphs in the area along with the Predalien and Wolf.

Anyways, Yautja can also detect camouflaged opponents, given how their main vision mode when wearing their masks is thermal vision, as it is known by anybody who has read The Flood, the camouflage that Spec Ops Elites use gives off huge thermal readings and thus, the Yautja's mask would show him a 7 foot tall red spot in front of him.


No response? I am disappointed Elite defenders.

  • 06.28.2011 1:42 AM PDT

One beam rifle shot = one damn dead predator.

  • 06.28.2011 2:08 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: otterboyz
One beam rifle shot = one damn dead predator.


Assuming the Elite can actually see the Predator, but due to the lack of Thermal vision in the Covenant so far, that is unlikely.

  • 06.28.2011 2:17 AM PDT

Well the focus rifle has a heat vision scope so an elite could just use that.

  • 06.28.2011 3:09 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: otterboyz
Well the focus rifle has a heat vision scope so an elite could just use that.


Do you have proof of that?

  • 06.28.2011 3:11 AM PDT

Other than to test it in game for your self your going to have to take my word on it. other weapons with a thermal sight include: Spartan laser, Sniper rifle and the fuel rod gun.

if you want to check for yourself look at the scope section of the focus rifle and have another player run in front of your reticule, its magic!

  • 06.28.2011 3:19 AM PDT
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Predator wins hands down

  • 06.28.2011 3:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: otterboyz
Other than to test it in game for your self your going to have to take my word on it. other weapons with a thermal sight include: Spartan laser, Sniper rifle and the fuel rod gun.

if you want to check for yourself look at the scope section of the focus rifle and have another player run in front of your reticule, its magic!


That's not Thermal, if it was, you'd be able to see people with camouflage, but if you have a camouflaged player stand in front of you, you will see that they do not show up on the scope.

So, no, no thermal.

  • 06.28.2011 3:42 AM PDT

S.H.E


Posted by: Grizzled Ancient
Oh my God... Its with this thread that I realize just how nerdy this forum is...
I was thinking the same thing

  • 06.28.2011 6:03 AM PDT

It may be true that they made a movie off of a cheap toy, but I think an Elite would win purely because they are born, raised and die a soldier. I hope that appeases most of you.

  • 06.28.2011 6:27 AM PDT


Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: otterboyz
Other than to test it in game for your self your going to have to take my word on it. other weapons with a thermal sight include: Spartan laser, Sniper rifle and the fuel rod gun.

if you want to check for yourself look at the scope section of the focus rifle and have another player run in front of your reticule, its magic!


That's not Thermal, if it was, you'd be able to see people with camouflage, but if you have a camouflaged player stand in front of you, you will see that they do not show up on the scope.

So, no, no thermal.
But it does have thermal imaging. It's just not put to use in gameplay, probably due to balancing issues. Though I do find it strange that the Covenant doesn't have thermal vision tech (beyond the Focus Rifle), given how technologically advanced they are.

[Edited on 06.28.2011 6:35 AM PDT]

  • 06.28.2011 6:31 AM PDT

I support PORYGON.

"Try speaking American, it's the only language I understand"-Bandit Keith

"Alas poor Yorik, I knew him... IN AMERICA."-Bandit Keith

So hard to choose...
I'd say Predator.

  • 06.28.2011 8:46 AM PDT

"I'm sorry man, I don't even know why I got in on this side... SHOTGUN!!!"


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Boba_Fett

Posted by: spartan117cah
Elites would be harder to fool, due to Predators' thermal vision, they could be fooled if the Elites found a way to make their bodies cold enough to be unseen.


They would switch to a vision that would be able to see the elite. Preds ain't stupid you know.


Neither is Arnold, and it worked for him.

Pro-tip: watch the damn movies. Arnold covered himself with mud witch blinded him to the Predator, allowing him to kill it.


And in turn, the Predators learned from this via Predator 2; where the humans tried a similar stunt, and the Predator switched to a spectrum that saw the light given off from the flashlights on the humans. They also showed a bunch of other ones in that scene too, we just don't know what they do.

Then there's AvP, where the Predators had a spectrum that could see Xenomorphs. Where normally they'd be very hard to see with thermal vision. [Beginning of AvP]

And in Predators, the Super Black Predators had a spectrum that could see the heartbeat of it's prey while it was hidden behind a tree, in the middle of a forest fire.

Trust me, that Elite will be found.

  • 06.28.2011 3:31 PM PDT

"I'm sorry man, I don't even know why I got in on this side... SHOTGUN!!!"


Posted by: otterboyz
Other than to test it in game for your self your going to have to take my word on it. other weapons with a thermal sight include: Spartan laser, Sniper rifle and the fuel rod gun.

if you want to check for yourself look at the scope section of the focus rifle and have another player run in front of your reticule, its magic!


I don't think that is thermal. It picks up the outlines of objects like plants, walls, vehicles... Sure, it picks out the SPARTAN/Elite in the image, but I don't think that makes it thermal.

Posted by:NAStheMagiking
But it does have thermal imaging. It's just not put to use in gameplay, probably due to balancing issues. Though I do find it strange that the Covenant doesn't have thermal vision tech (beyond the Focus Rifle), given how technologically advanced they are.


But how do you know that it is thermal imagery? I'd like a primary source for that.

[Edited on 06.28.2011 3:41 PM PDT]

  • 06.28.2011 3:37 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: NAStheMagiking

Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: otterboyz
Other than to test it in game for your self your going to have to take my word on it. other weapons with a thermal sight include: Spartan laser, Sniper rifle and the fuel rod gun.

if you want to check for yourself look at the scope section of the focus rifle and have another player run in front of your reticule, its magic!


That's not Thermal, if it was, you'd be able to see people with camouflage, but if you have a camouflaged player stand in front of you, you will see that they do not show up on the scope.

So, no, no thermal.
But it does have thermal imaging. It's just not put to use in gameplay, probably due to balancing issues. Though I do find it strange that the Covenant doesn't have thermal vision tech (beyond the Focus Rifle), given how technologically advanced they are.


The Covenant doesn't have access to Thermal detecting technology as far as we know, and neither do the Focus nor Beam Rifle detect heat signatures, they just pick the outlines of objects.

  • 06.28.2011 4:36 PM PDT