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Subject: Who wins in a search and destroy?
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Poll: Who wins in a search and destroy?  [closed]
Camo elite -Halo:  53%
(10 Votes)
Dar Templar -Star Craft:  47%
(9 Votes)
Total Votes: 19

I figure these two would be an interesting fight.

-both have shields
-both wield energy blades
-both incredibly strong
-both invisible

Everyone's thoughts?

  • 06.15.2011 10:45 PM PDT
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Considering one psychicly bends the light around him, I'm gonna have to give it to the Dark Templar, hands down.

  • 06.15.2011 10:57 PM PDT

To be honest, I was the one vote for the elite because i didn't know what the other one was.

  • 06.15.2011 11:02 PM PDT
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http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_templar_(StarCraft_II)

Learn young one. And as a side note, these are the guys who regularly slaughter a force of humans who have powered armour wearing, rapid fire guass rifle using marines as its standard infantry force. just keep that mind.

  • 06.15.2011 11:06 PM PDT
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SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship


Posted by: OmG Itz L3GiT
To be honest, I was the one vote for the elite because i didn't know what the other one was.

Are we going with both having only blades, or what?

Blades = Dark Templar win. Especially if they are led by Zeratul.
Normal loadouts = Dark Templar get wrecked by Plasma Repeaters, Plasma Rifles, Needler Rifles, T51(?) Carbines, Guided Munition Launchers... Sangheili win.

If 1v1, I'd say place a Field Marshall or an Arbiter against the Dark Template(?) Zeratul.

  • 06.15.2011 11:10 PM PDT
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^^ Anything goes except vehicles.

We know elites use Grenades on top of their weapons.

Dark Templars use cloak, not camo. differnt all together.

  • 06.15.2011 11:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: SC Matt KlassenAre we going with both having only blades, or what?

Blades = Dark Templar win. Especially if they are led by Zeratul.
Normal loadouts = Dark Templar get wrecked by Plasma Repeaters, Plasma Rifles, Needler Rifles, T51(?) Carbines, Guided Munition Launchers... Sangheili win.

If 1v1, I'd say place a Field Marshall or an Arbiter against the Dark Template(?) Zeratul.


The only problem with your analaysis is your assuming that the poor Elite SOB going up against the DT is going to be able to see him. Unlike a Predator Cloak where one could possible spot it with Thermal, Dark Templar Cloaking requires sensor that can detect along multipule spectrums.

DT Cloaking is litteraly bending light around the DT, not simply putting up an image of its surroundings.

The Elite is not going to know the DT is there till it gets a Psi blade through the gut.

  • 06.15.2011 11:37 PM PDT
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SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship


Posted by: Pewter

Posted by: SC Matt KlassenAre we going with both having only blades, or what?

Blades = Dark Templar win. Especially if they are led by Zeratul.
Normal loadouts = Dark Templar get wrecked by Plasma Repeaters, Plasma Rifles, Needler Rifles, T51(?) Carbines, Guided Munition Launchers... Sangheili win.

If 1v1, I'd say place a Field Marshall or an Arbiter against the Dark Template(?) Zeratul.


The only problem with your analaysis is your assuming that the poor Elite SOB going up against the DT is going to be able to see him. Unlike a Predator Cloak where one could possible spot it with Thermal, Dark Templar Cloaking requires sensor that can detect along multipule spectrums.

DT Cloaking is litteraly bending light around the DT, not simply putting up an image of its surroundings.

The Elite is not going to know the DT is there till it gets a Psi blade through the gut.

And how will the Dark Templar detect the Sangheili kill team? Do they have thermal vision? From what I've seen of gameplay, no. As long as both sides stay clear of water or sand, this will never end.

Unless Catch skull activates, then the entire battlefield is drowned in grenades.
Inverse Law of Ninjas dictates that this will eventually degenerate into a 1v1.

  • 06.15.2011 11:43 PM PDT
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From an In-universe perspective I'm gonna have to hand it to the Psychic Aliens with Hundreds of years in experience who traveled to all the dark places of their galaxy over the religious Zealots who's suits put of an exessive amount of heat when cloaked(Not all of them are Zealots mind you, but still.)

  • 06.16.2011 3:39 PM PDT


Posted by: Pewter
From an In-universe perspective I'm gonna have to hand it to the Psychic Aliens with Hundreds of years in experience who traveled to all the dark places of their galaxy over the religious Zealots who's suits put of an exessive amount of heat when cloaked(Not all of them are Zealots mind you, but still.)


Yeah, the dark templar live, breath, and thrive in the shadows.

Also, we talking about the style of dark templar with wristblades, or the double-bladed scythe staff?

  • 06.16.2011 3:46 PM PDT


Posted by: Pewter

Posted by: SC Matt KlassenAre we going with both having only blades, or what?

Blades = Dark Templar win. Especially if they are led by Zeratul.
Normal loadouts = Dark Templar get wrecked by Plasma Repeaters, Plasma Rifles, Needler Rifles, T51(?) Carbines, Guided Munition Launchers... Sangheili win.

If 1v1, I'd say place a Field Marshall or an Arbiter against the Dark Template(?) Zeratul.


The only problem with your analaysis is your assuming that the poor Elite SOB going up against the DT is going to be able to see him. Unlike a Predator Cloak where one could possible spot it with Thermal, Dark Templar Cloaking requires sensor that can detect along multipule spectrums.

DT Cloaking is litteraly bending light around the DT, not simply putting up an image of its surroundings.

The Elite is not going to know the DT is there till it gets a Psi blade through the gut.


Thats exactley what an Elite's active camo is, bending light. The UNSC uses the panel camo.

  • 06.16.2011 3:50 PM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Pewter

Posted by: SC Matt KlassenAre we going with both having only blades, or what?

Blades = Dark Templar win. Especially if they are led by Zeratul.
Normal loadouts = Dark Templar get wrecked by Plasma Repeaters, Plasma Rifles, Needler Rifles, T51(?) Carbines, Guided Munition Launchers... Sangheili win.

If 1v1, I'd say place a Field Marshall or an Arbiter against the Dark Template(?) Zeratul.


The only problem with your analaysis is your assuming that the poor Elite SOB going up against the DT is going to be able to see him. Unlike a Predator Cloak where one could possible spot it with Thermal, Dark Templar Cloaking requires sensor that can detect along multipule spectrums.

DT Cloaking is litteraly bending light around the DT, not simply putting up an image of its surroundings.

The Elite is not going to know the DT is there till it gets a Psi blade through the gut.


Thats exactley what an Elite's active camo is, bending light. The UNSC uses the panel camo.


But the Elite's runs off a power source, the dark templar's doesn't.

  • 06.16.2011 3:53 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Pewter

Posted by: SC Matt KlassenAre we going with both having only blades, or what?

Blades = Dark Templar win. Especially if they are led by Zeratul.
Normal loadouts = Dark Templar get wrecked by Plasma Repeaters, Plasma Rifles, Needler Rifles, T51(?) Carbines, Guided Munition Launchers... Sangheili win.

If 1v1, I'd say place a Field Marshall or an Arbiter against the Dark Template(?) Zeratul.


The only problem with your analaysis is your assuming that the poor Elite SOB going up against the DT is going to be able to see him. Unlike a Predator Cloak where one could possible spot it with Thermal, Dark Templar Cloaking requires sensor that can detect along multipule spectrums.

DT Cloaking is litteraly bending light around the DT, not simply putting up an image of its surroundings.

The Elite is not going to know the DT is there till it gets a Psi blade through the gut.


Thats exactley what an Elite's active camo is, bending light. The UNSC uses the panel camo.


But the Elite's runs off a power source, the dark templar's doesn't.


No, it doesn't. The Arbiter's does on account of it being an older armor, but normal Elites can become invisible forever.

  • 06.16.2011 3:55 PM PDT

Idummo, to me the line in Halo 2 sounded more like "You can't stay cloaked the entire time of the mission." I doubt the cloak could last forever with it being on all the time.

  • 06.16.2011 3:58 PM PDT

Elite: "Engage Active Camoflague, reveal yourselves only after the Arbiter has joined battle with the enemy" (turns invis)

Rtas: "You may wish to do the same, Arbiter. But take heed: your armor's systems are not as...new, as ours. Your camoflague will not last forever."

  • 06.16.2011 4:01 PM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Elite: "Engage Active Camoflague, reveal yourselves only after the Arbiter has joined battle with the enemy" (turns invis)

Rtas: "You may wish to do the same, Arbiter. But take heed: your armor's systems are not as...new, as ours. Your camoflague will not last forever."


Yeah, that's the line I was talking about. To me, it simply means the arbiter's older systems might cause the camo to shut off much sooner then the other spec op's camo would.

  • 06.16.2011 4:22 PM PDT

Your Camoflague will not last forever

C'mon, face the facts.

[Edited on 06.16.2011 4:31 PM PDT]

  • 06.16.2011 4:29 PM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Your Camoflague will not last forever

C'mon, face the facts.


Eh, that doesn't really prove anything about the typical spec ops built in active camo generators length of time it can remain active...

Even then, as it's the first time the player gets to use it, it could simply be a line to remind players "You have a time limit with active camo."

Edit: That point aside, the dark templar may be able to use their psionic abilities to track the elite down...

Since it's pretty clear neither would loose camo due to Templar's being from psionics, and the elite's camo generator's power supply can last a good while.

[Edited on 06.16.2011 4:50 PM PDT]

  • 06.16.2011 4:41 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Templar. Not even really fair, the Templar basically has super powers and the psionic blade is far and above the Energy Sword.

  • 06.16.2011 4:43 PM PDT

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Templar, everyone have a point in this thread about their superiority, but there is a little more.

  • 06.16.2011 4:50 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Your Camoflague will not last forever

C'mon, face the facts.


Eh, that doesn't really prove anything about the typical spec ops built in active camo generators length of time it can remain active...

Even then, as it's the first time the player gets to use it, it could simply be a line to remind players "You have a time limit with active camo."

Edit: That point aside, the dark templar may be able to use their psionic abilities to track the elite down...

Since it's pretty clear neither would loose camo due to Templar's being from psionics, and the elite's camo generator's power supply can last a good while.


Well, where do you get the idea that their camo will run out? We've never seen it happen.

And though I'm not saying the Elite would win (the most experience with the Protoss I have are the few missions in SC2 you play as Zeretful so I'm only supporting the Elite out of lack of knowledge) if the Protoss tracked the Elite down with his powers, even with active camo the Elite would be able to detect him through the motion tracker.

  • 06.16.2011 5:09 PM PDT

Well, Roberto I'm just of the viewpoint, if the Elite kept the active camo generator on constantly for a very long time, it would shut off due to some reason. How long who knows, but maybe lol.

Hm... there's another game changer. What if the dark templar was similar to Zeratul, and could do short range teleports?

  • 06.16.2011 5:47 PM PDT
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Time to get a drink and watch the world burn. Or deal with it.

It would depend on who sees whom first, and if the other one doesn't notice.

  • 06.16.2011 6:12 PM PDT