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Subject: Why would Bungie have concept art for the Forerunner Combat Skins?

"A LIE is a LIE"


- Truly intelligent and deep Black ops trailer

Excluding the fact that he looks completely badass, its obvious Bungie created this concept art for Halo 4 (as it was on the drawing board before reach)
Think about it, if Bungie was pushing forerunner combat skins, maybe they really wanted forerunners to be the main enemy (or even ally) in Halo 4.



So, theory time. Bungie clearly wanted concept art for forerunner armour.

Probably for Halo 4.
Since this is a pushed idea, Bungie probably has this idea locked somewhere in the Halo story bible.

Now this may sound stupid, but perhaps MC was meant to get his hands on this forerunner combat skin? An extremely stupid but somewhat possible idea. Just to let you know, Forerunner CS's are at least 5x stronger then spartan armour as stated by spark. If forerunners are the enemy in the game, MC would not stand 1 chance against fighting them unless he has this armour. Likewise, of forerunners are the main ally in the game, wouldn't they provide MC with this armour to replace the comparably outdated MJOLNIR Mark VI?

Cortana already has extensive knowledge on forerunner tech and may be able to help MC use the armour.
1) Do you think bungie meant for MC to get this forerunner combat skin upgrade to fight the new threat, perhaps later on in the halo 4 campaign?
and 2) Do you think this confirms Bungie wanted forerunners in Halo 4?



Here's the wiki page. Anyone who says its from the Halo 2 special edition is mistaken, this page shows the picture but does not list the Halo 2 DVD in the sources section.



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  • 06.16.2011 1:10 AM PDT
Subject: Why would Bungie have concept art for the Forerunner CS? Halo 4 art?
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Epic!! so when did they release that pic? it would be awesome to see those things... I never knew what forerunners were suppose to look like

  • 06.16.2011 1:15 AM PDT
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Couldn't resist.

  • 06.16.2011 1:29 AM PDT

"A LIE is a LIE"


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Posted by: Nyxiz
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Couldn't resist.


Wait, did that actually come up?

  • 06.16.2011 1:30 AM PDT

I heard that it was a concept for Halo 3 that got cut.

  • 06.16.2011 1:46 AM PDT

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that is from the dvd on halo 2 special edition. its concept art that eventually led to elites. nothing to do with forerunners.


on the dvd it is not colored in but is undeniably the same alien figure.

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  • 06.16.2011 1:51 AM PDT
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SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship

First person that makes a reference to Geth should be reminded at what a single Forerunner strike team would do to said machine race.

  • 06.16.2011 2:30 AM PDT

Given its obvious similarity in appearance to the Geth it could also be some sort of robotic foot soldier.

  • 06.16.2011 2:39 AM PDT

"A LIE is a LIE"


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Posted by: Slamtastic50mg
that is from the dvd on halo 2 special edition. its concept art that eventually led to elites. nothing to do with forerunners.


on the dvd it is not colored in but is undeniably the same alien figure.


You are very wrong. Its even labelled on the Halo wiki as forerunner Armour.

  • 06.16.2011 3:44 AM PDT
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Halo 2 isn't dead jorge...... its just missing in action.
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Looks like a Geth (Mass Effect). I'll read this later.

  • 06.16.2011 3:45 AM PDT


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Posted by: Slamtastic50mg
that is from the dvd on halo 2 special edition. its concept art that eventually led to elites. nothing to do with forerunners.


on the dvd it is not colored in but is undeniably the same alien figure.


You are very wrong. Its even labelled on the Halo wiki as forerunner Armour.



Its just a concept... nothing more, and don't place your absolute trust in a wiki page.

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Posted by: Slamtastic50mg
that is from the dvd on halo 2 special edition. its concept art that eventually led to elites. nothing to do with forerunners.


on the dvd it is not colored in but is undeniably the same alien figure.


No it was confirmed to be forerunner CS months ago not to mention we were suppose to drive/fight a forerunner tank in halo 2 so this goes with that.

  • 06.16.2011 4:36 AM PDT

this concept art could very well be "just" a forerunner guardian drone on feet. that "geth headlight" is strikingly similar to the "eye" of a monitor like guilty spark.

  • 06.16.2011 4:58 AM PDT

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This makes sense to me, but I don't have extensive knowledge of the Halo Universe; specifically the Forerunner aspects, so I might not see any contradictions in this thread as opposed to someone with the knowledge.

It makes sense though, because sooner or later he'd be on that forerunner planet and would probably have to adapt his armor and weapons. I don't want to say the MJOLNIR is going to run out of power b/c I think it's near limitless due to the micro-fusion reactor on the back, but at the least: It has to crap out sometime from all the damage it's taken...

Combat skin would be awesome to wear... Maybe in Halo 5 or 6 they'll do it. I doubt it'd be Halo 4 though, they released that E3 trailer to show what he'd look like for the majority of the game.

...Unless, that is forerunner combat skin, just modified to Master Cheif's/Human preferences O:

As for weapons [slightly off-topic], I'm fine with no human weapons. People should accept it as a possibility, and embrace the fact that forerunner weapons are just so much more bad-ass.

  • 06.16.2011 5:09 AM PDT


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Combat skin would be awesome to wear... Maybe in Halo 5 or 6 they'll do it.


i highly doubt it. if they did, 343i would go down in history as the company that caused the most heart attacks in teens EVER.

  • 06.16.2011 5:14 AM PDT

"I'm sorry man, I don't even know why I got in on this side... SHOTGUN!!!"


...Unless, that is forerunner combat skin, just modified to Master Cheif's/Human preferences O:

I really think that could be the reason, haha. Call me radical and stupid, but look at the torso. It has some slight resemblance to Chiefs new torso, and his new look has a more compact, smooth design on the sides of his torso.

That concept art could be changed later on by 343i too (if they got the rights from Bungie, which I don't see why not.)

You can also look at the contours of the Combat Skin and compare it to Chief's new armor design. It's somewhat plausible that he integrated pieces of MJOLNIR armor (probably major components for the system to work, and whatever armor plating that is seen in the trailer) with this Combat Skin, dumped the helmet and the Dead Space 2-esque shin/knee guards, and replaced the Samus Aran hand pieces with more preferred gauntlets.

There is a snowball's chance in hell that he could have combined his MJOLNIR armor with Forerunner Combat Skin, but it's an interesting concept nonetheless.

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Posted by: SSgt Shapiro

...Unless, that is forerunner combat skin, just modified to Master Cheif's/Human preferences O:

I really think that could be the reason, haha. Call me radical and stupid, but look at the torso. It has some slight resemblance to Chiefs new torso, and his new look has a more compact, smooth design on the sides of his torso. That concept art could be changed later on by 343i too. You can also looks at the contours of the Combat Skin and compare it to Chief's new armor design. It's somewhat plausible that he integrated pieces of MJOLNIR armor (probably major components for the system to work, and whatever armor plating that is seen in the trailer) with this Combat Skin, dumped the helmet and the Dead Space 2-esque shin/knee guards, and replaced the Samus Aran hand pieces with more preferred gauntlets.

There is a snowball's chance in hell that he could have combined his MJOLNIR armor with Forerunner Combat Skin, but it's an interesting concept nonetheless.


Yeah, Forerunner Combat Skin would be awesome to wear but they'd have to balance it unless they learn a lesson from Crytek where you can use abilities of super solider... Maybe.

And teaser trailer isn't canon, which his armor is mere representative how it would have looked. IN-game trailer will likely to be different.

However, I'm willing bet to that John gets to wear Forerunner Combat Skin since his MJOLNIR is inferior to Forerunners (If they're enemy) also to Flood.

  • 06.16.2011 5:20 AM PDT

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Yeah, Forerunner Combat Skin would be awesome to wear but they'd have to balance it unless they learn a lesson from Crytek where you can use abilities of super solider... Maybe.

And teaser trailer isn't canon, which his armor is mere representative how it would have looked. IN-game trailer will likely to be different.

However, I'm willing bet to that John gets to wear Forerunner Combat Skin since his MJOLNIR is inferior to Forerunners (If they're enemy) also to Flood.


I know the trailer isn't canon, but I think the main reason for it was to pump up the fans and show them what MC would look like.

As for balance, I can only assume that UNSC weapons are no longer dominant, and Forerunner weapons are. Since Forerunner weaponry is a hell of a lot stronger than UNSC Firearms and Covenant Plasma-tech, it makes sense for John to have a stronger shield system.

And campaign wise, if my theory were to be true, the integration would probably combine MJOLNIR shield strength with Forerunner shield strength. Wait, does Combat Skin have shields? If not, then overall durability I suppose.

  • 06.16.2011 5:26 AM PDT
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Very cool looking. Almost and elite mixed with geth from Mass Effect.

  • 06.16.2011 5:45 AM PDT

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hmm looks interesting, although i'd rather 343 to use their own concept design now because i was looking forward to seeing what the forerunners would actually look like when Halo 4 comes out (surprise me 343i) oh well also you said if the forerunners become allies they may lend the chief some forerunner armour wich is apparently 5x stronger than master chiefs, personally i'd rather be fighting them :D and hopefully this is were master chiefs new armour comes into place and can compete with the forerunner armour.

  • 06.16.2011 6:35 AM PDT

Random fact: 343 confirmed to be using a tweaked reach engine for halo4 link is here.

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Posted by: Slamtastic50mg
that is from the dvd on halo 2 special edition. its concept art that eventually led to elites. nothing to do with forerunners.


on the dvd it is not colored in but is undeniably the same alien figure.


You are very wrong. Its even labelled on the Halo wiki as forerunner Armour.


Let me get this straight. You're trusting an internet Halo wiki over something directly released by Bungie... God you're a mucking idiot.

  • 06.16.2011 9:38 AM PDT

I believe they originally wanted to do halo 4 but decided to do reach instead.

  • 06.16.2011 10:33 AM PDT

I'm gonna jizz everywhere if you get to play Master Chief in Forerunner armor for Halo4

  • 06.16.2011 10:39 AM PDT

Is there a page with more concept art on it?

  • 06.16.2011 10:49 AM PDT

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