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Subject: Why did the forunners construct halo this way?

So i've just started playing halo 1 again and I was wondering why exactly the forunners made forrests, mountains, rivers, complete ecosystems, on the ring.

Wouldn't it be way more effective to have it build "bare bone" whith a potential flood outbreak? surely if they wanted people on it, it could have been done some other way no?

  • 06.16.2011 5:09 AM PDT

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According to the new-ish book Halo: Cryptum, the Librarian convinced the Master Builder to allow specimens to exist on the Halos so if the Halos were to fire, there would be more room to fit life that would be destroyed from the Halo activations.

People weren't meant to live on it.

  • 06.16.2011 5:14 AM PDT

thanks, i didn't read Cryptum yet, but this awnsers my quesion.

  • 06.16.2011 5:18 AM PDT


Posted by: Im SteelAssassn
According to the new-ish book Halo: Cryptum, the Librarian convinced the Master Builder to allow specimens to exist on the Halos so if the Halos were to fire, there would be more room to fit life that would be destroyed from the Halo activations.

People weren't meant to live on it.


so... if you're on a Halo, when it fires, it won't harm you?
at least that explains why there was still flood on the halo in ce.

  • 06.16.2011 5:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: raindoc

Posted by: Im SteelAssassn
According to the new-ish book Halo: Cryptum, the Librarian convinced the Master Builder to allow specimens to exist on the Halos so if the Halos were to fire, there would be more room to fit life that would be destroyed from the Halo activations.

People weren't meant to live on it.


so... if you're on a Halo, when it fires, it won't harm you?
at least that explains why there was still flood on the halo in ce.


And yet, in CE, it specificually says that Halo DOES NOT kill Flood. It kills their food.

[Edited on 06.16.2011 5:20 AM PDT]

  • 06.16.2011 5:20 AM PDT


Posted by: M94 Mushroom Man
And yet, in CE, it specificually says that Halo DOES NOT kill Flood. It kills their food.


so true. i stand corrected.

however, this leads me to another question - i understand that the halo impulse is some kind of neurological weapon: hence it won't kill lower lifeforms such as flood spores, but would it kill a gravemind? after all, the gravemind is the sentient brain of the flood horde...

  • 06.16.2011 5:30 AM PDT
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I've thought about this before... like what is the point in all the mountains and oceans etc if Halo's purpose was just to fire killing all sentient life, I guess Halo has other purposes too

  • 06.16.2011 5:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: Im SteelAssassn
According to the new-ish book Halo: Cryptum, the Librarian convinced the Master Builder to allow specimens to exist on the Halos so if the Halos were to fire, there would be more room to fit life that would be destroyed from the Halo activations.

People weren't meant to live on it.


so... if you're on a Halo, when it fires, it won't harm you?
at least that explains why there was still flood on the halo in ce.


Nobody answered you yet, so if that's the case, I assume it's because the blast fires from the outside of the ring. The thing is, I though it would fire from the inside like it did in Halo 2 when it sent the beacon. So I still believe that you'd die even if you were on it, but the environment would remain intact so that creatures could reside in their corresponding habitats when the reseeding took place.

  • 06.16.2011 5:49 AM PDT

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The artificial weather may also be a defence mechanism against any potential Flood outbreaks, I'd love to see the Flood try and sustain itself in a barren desert or icy tundras.

  • 06.16.2011 5:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: raindoc

Posted by: Im SteelAssassn
According to the new-ish book Halo: Cryptum, the Librarian convinced the Master Builder to allow specimens to exist on the Halos so if the Halos were to fire, there would be more room to fit life that would be destroyed from the Halo activations.

People weren't meant to live on it.


so... if you're on a Halo, when it fires, it won't harm you?
at least that explains why there was still flood on the halo in ce.


And yet, in CE, it specificually says that Halo DOES NOT kill Flood. It kills their food.


It kills things that are already infected, it is the infection forms that don't get killed.

  • 06.16.2011 5:55 AM PDT

It doesn't make sense to me anymore! Why would you allow flood "food' near the flood anyway?? Better just to avoid such situation.

  • 06.16.2011 7:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: fatalred alarm
It doesn't make sense to me anymore! Why would you allow flood "food' near the flood anyway?? Better just to avoid such situation.


The idea was to never let the Flood near the Halos in the first place. The Ark is protected, and the Halos are protected with armies of Sentinels as well. There are many different possibilities as to why the flood were able to get on Halo, and given the security protocols anyway (according to Cryptum as well, all organism approaching the Halos were to be killed, Forerunner or no), the Flood should have had just a difficult time leaving any of the installations.

  • 06.16.2011 7:16 AM PDT

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  • 06.16.2011 7:25 AM PDT


Posted by: raindoc

Posted by: M94 Mushroom Man
And yet, in CE, it specificually says that Halo DOES NOT kill Flood. It kills their food.


so true. i stand corrected.

however, this leads me to another question - i understand that the halo impulse is some kind of neurological weapon: hence it won't kill lower lifeforms such as flood spores, but would it kill a gravemind? after all, the gravemind is the sentient brain of the flood horde...


The besterium lists him as a transsentient (explaining is omniscience and god-like presence). Even if, for some reason, you still don't think that the Prisoner is the Mind, the conclusion can still be drawn that, being above sentience, he wouldn't be harmed by the Ring; the Prisoner wasn't.

  • 06.16.2011 7:28 AM PDT
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Posted by: raindoc

Posted by: M94 Mushroom Man
And yet, in CE, it specificually says that Halo DOES NOT kill Flood. It kills their food.


so true. i stand corrected.

however, this leads me to another question - i understand that the halo impulse is some kind of neurological weapon: hence it won't kill lower lifeforms such as flood spores, but would it kill a gravemind? after all, the gravemind is the sentient brain of the flood horde...


being above sentience, he wouldn't be harmed by the Ring; the Prisoner wasn't.


The halo was tuned to break him free not to mention that the rings in cryptum are imply that you aren't killed if your on it when it is fired.

in all honesty it all has to do with the tuning.

  • 06.16.2011 7:52 AM PDT

What a waste....

You would die if you were on a Halo when it fired. The mountains and oceans were there to later support sentient life.

  • 06.16.2011 7:58 AM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: raindoc

Posted by: M94 Mushroom Man
And yet, in CE, it specificually says that Halo DOES NOT kill Flood. It kills their food.


so true. i stand corrected.

however, this leads me to another question - i understand that the halo impulse is some kind of neurological weapon: hence it won't kill lower lifeforms such as flood spores, but would it kill a gravemind? after all, the gravemind is the sentient brain of the flood horde...


being above sentience, he wouldn't be harmed by the Ring; the Prisoner wasn't.


The halo was tuned to break him free not to mention that the rings in cryptum are imply that you aren't killed if your on it when it is fired.

in all honesty it all has to do with the tuning.


1) He wasn't on the Ring

2) Didact did express te very real possibility that he was killed, but feared it wasn't. Besides, when was the last time firing the Ring killed a transsentient? It has never happened.

  • 06.16.2011 8:03 AM PDT
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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: raindoc

Posted by: M94 Mushroom Man
And yet, in CE, it specificually says that Halo DOES NOT kill Flood. It kills their food.[/quote]

so true. i stand corrected.

however, this leads me to another question - i understand that the halo impulse is some kind of neurological weapon: hence it won't kill lower lifeforms such as flood spores, but would it kill a gravemind? after all, the gravemind is the sentient brain of the flood horde...


being above sentience, he wouldn't be harmed by the Ring; the Prisoner wasn't.


The halo was tuned to break him free not to mention that the rings in cryptum are imply that you aren't killed if your on it when it is fired.

in all honesty it all has to do with the tuning.


1) He wasn't on the Ring

2) Didact did express te very real possibility that he was killed, but feared it wasn't. Besides, when was the last time firing the Ring killed a transsentient? It has never happened.


1. i am talking about charum hakkor

2.we both know he wasn't and the didact 2.0 knows that also at the end of the book. we never had any account of the ring killing a transsentient, a lack of an account doesn't mean it didn't happen.

and the prisoner isn't transsentient with current knowledge on him.

  • 06.16.2011 1:27 PM PDT

They kept infection form specimins in laboratories in Halo: CE. For study by the forerunners maybe to find a cure, or a way to make them immune to the flood.

  • 06.16.2011 3:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartan 100
They're going to correct some lines in halo combat evolved.
Do you have a source? They've stated that the voiceovers have not changed, but, along with the sound effects, have been "remastered". That is on an audio-production basis only, meaning the dialogue will not change.

  • 06.16.2011 3:29 PM PDT