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Subject: Halo 4: Relating the unidentified planet to the Onyx Shield World
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Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
nice theory if you actually thought up of this by yourself, and not halopedia or by using my theory.

I've had this theory since I finished reading Onyx a few years ago, but really never had a reason to post it until now.

Edit: ANNND, now I see why you said that.

[Edited on 06.17.2011 9:20 AM PDT]

  • 06.17.2011 9:11 AM PDT
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Posted by: spoog911

I was looking through hasleys journal and fond a small picture of a star system,theres a blue circle around a black bloch and and an arrow pointing at it.At the bottom of the card it say "A new threat?"

On the back it say(Word for word):


Catherine

As far as I know we don't officially have anything in this sector we certainly don't have anything as BIG as this seems to be. Size-wise, it's got to be something in the neighborhood of
Uranus XV9Puck0...AND this is a 10 min exposure - no p/y/r - this object definitely exhibits what i would have to discribe as guided movement.

I know the chatternet isn't your kinda thing,but if you want to weigh in on this >> <sci.space.science.misc>...it'll be pretty obious once you're in.

~JC

I don't have Halsey's journey, so I didn't know about this. Related to the Sigma 7 leak, possibly?

  • 06.17.2011 10:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: gtfan92

Posted by: spoog911

I was looking through hasleys journal and fond a small picture of a star system,theres a blue circle around a black bloch and and an arrow pointing at it.At the bottom of the card it say "A new threat?"

On the back it say(Word for word):


Catherine

As far as I know we don't officially have anything in this sector we certainly don't have anything as BIG as this seems to be. Size-wise, it's got to be something in the neighborhood of
Uranus XV9Puck0...AND this is a 10 min exposure - no p/y/r - this object definitely exhibits what i would have to discribe as guided movement.

I know the chatternet isn't your kinda thing,but if you want to weigh in on this >> <sci.space.science.misc>...it'll be pretty obious once you're in.

~JC

I don't have Halsey's journey, so I didn't know about this. Related to the Sigma 7 leak, possibly?


1) "Leaks" have been confirmed fake by Frankie.

2) It's High Charity.

  • 06.17.2011 10:17 AM PDT

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This idea is pretty well thought out and I like it, but I swear, EVERY topic made here questioning WHAT the planet is in the Halo 3 Legendary ending always seems to forget about the Suns in the background, which is almost 100% proof that these planets are not the same.

As I've posted countless times before...in the H3 Legendary ending, there is a blue sun, and, according to Ghosts of Onyx, we learn that Onyx orbits a yellow sun. THEREFORE, these planets cannot be the same.

NOW, if you don't believe the Sun theory, then I have this backup explanation...

In the H3 ending, Cortana tells the Chief that it could be YEARS before anyone finds them, this obviously means that they're very far away from any human colonies (because she doesn't expect to be found any time soon). So, if the planet in the Legendary ending is Onyx (a human colony), and their smoldering ship was simply able to float to it (meaning it couldn't have been THAT far away), don't you think it's odd that she would say it could take years? Wouldn't she have been able to detect Onyx if it were close enough to float to?

Now, it's not absolute proof, I'm not saying that, because Bungie, 343, or anyone here could come out and say that the blue sun in the H3 Legendary ending isn't the actual sun that this unknown planet orbits, and that it was just a dramatic blue flash effect used to end the clip with. That's fine and I accept that but we still have Cortana's words about not being found for years, as possible proof that it couldn't be Onyx if they were close enough by to just float right to it.

  • 06.17.2011 10:53 AM PDT

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Still don't see why Mendicant Bias would say "I'm sending you to my makers as repentance on my behalf." or something to that effect and then not send Chief to a place where Forerunners are.

[Edited on 06.17.2011 10:56 AM PDT]

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Posted by: Hydrilus
This idea is pretty well thought out and I like it, but I swear, EVERY topic made here questioning WHAT the planet is in the Halo 3 Legendary ending always seems to forget about the Suns in the background, which is almost 100% proof that these planets are not the same.

As I've posted countless times before...in the H3 Legendary ending, there is a blue sun, and, according to Ghosts of Onyx, we learn that Onyx orbits a yellow sun. THEREFORE, these planets cannot be the same.

NOW, if you don't believe the Sun theory, then I have this backup explanation...

In the H3 ending, Cortana tells the Chief that it could be YEARS before anyone finds them, this obviously means that they're very far away from any human colonies (because she doesn't expect to be found any time soon). So, if the planet in the Legendary ending is Onyx (a human colony), and their smoldering ship was simply able to float to it (meaning it couldn't have been THAT far away), don't you think it's odd that she would say it could take years? Wouldn't she have been able to detect Onyx if it were close enough to float to?

Now, it's not absolute proof, I'm not saying that, because Bungie, 343, or anyone here could come out and say that the blue sun in the H3 Legendary ending isn't the actual sun that this unknown planet orbits, and that it was just a dramatic blue flash effect used to end the clip with. That's fine and I accept that but we still have Cortana's words about not being found for years, as possible proof that it couldn't be Onyx if they were close enough by to just float right to it.

What I am saying is that the Onyx Shield World came out of slipspace at a new locaation. It isn't actually in the Onyx system, but I think it could be that Shield World. (or a different one)

  • 06.17.2011 10:57 AM PDT

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Posted by: gtfan92

Posted by: Hydrilus
This idea is pretty well thought out and I like it, but I swear, EVERY topic made here questioning WHAT the planet is in the Halo 3 Legendary ending always seems to forget about the Suns in the background, which is almost 100% proof that these planets are not the same.

As I've posted countless times before...in the H3 Legendary ending, there is a blue sun, and, according to Ghosts of Onyx, we learn that Onyx orbits a yellow sun. THEREFORE, these planets cannot be the same.

NOW, if you don't believe the Sun theory, then I have this backup explanation...

In the H3 ending, Cortana tells the Chief that it could be YEARS before anyone finds them, this obviously means that they're very far away from any human colonies (because she doesn't expect to be found any time soon). So, if the planet in the Legendary ending is Onyx (a human colony), and their smoldering ship was simply able to float to it (meaning it couldn't have been THAT far away), don't you think it's odd that she would say it could take years? Wouldn't she have been able to detect Onyx if it were close enough to float to?

Now, it's not absolute proof, I'm not saying that, because Bungie, 343, or anyone here could come out and say that the blue sun in the H3 Legendary ending isn't the actual sun that this unknown planet orbits, and that it was just a dramatic blue flash effect used to end the clip with. That's fine and I accept that but we still have Cortana's words about not being found for years, as possible proof that it couldn't be Onyx if they were close enough by to just float right to it.

What I am saying is that the Onyx Shield World came out of slipspace at a new locaation. It isn't actually in the Onyx system, but I think it could be that Shield World. (or a different one)


It wasn't IN slipspace though... Dr. Halsey and the other Spartans possibly went somewhere else but we can't confirm from the book that Onyx actually went anywhere. Halsey and the others stepped through a slipspace rift, that's it.

I do agree though 100% about the planet in the Halo 3 Legendary ending and the Halo 4 video being Shield Worlds, or, in some way related to them.

[Edited on 06.17.2011 11:14 AM PDT]

  • 06.17.2011 11:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: AngasBoy
I like the theory, but IMO, Sigma 7 is looking like the most plausible storyline for Halo 4.


But perhaps Sigma 7 is the name that ONI gave the shield word after the indecent

[Edited on 06.17.2011 11:18 AM PDT]

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"It's High Charity".

How can it be High Charity. High Charity got distroyed by the Master chief in Halo 3 so it can not be High Charity.

[Edited on 06.17.2011 11:35 AM PDT]

  • 06.17.2011 11:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: OVER9000BLARGS

"It's High Charity".

How can it be High Charity. High Charity got distroyed by the Master chief in Halo 3 so it can not be High Charity.


I'm talking about the image in Halsey's Journal...

  • 06.17.2011 11:41 AM PDT


Posted by: hotshot revan II
No just no.

The legendary planet is the size of a planet and Onyx shield world is just a few meters large in real space

And i ask you why would MB send the Chief to the spartans?What's the point?A happy reunion?

There is alot of evidence that disproves the fact that Onyx shield world is related the the legendary planet,if say it has connections with the shield world .

Why Onyx and why not another planet,how unoriginal would a Halo 4 story be?

I would take a bet with all my money that it sin't Onyx,it will be disproven like that "theory" about Reach.

End rant


Frankie (an employee at 343i), in an interview, stated that people who have seen the legendary ending of the game are familiar with the [Halo 4] teaser. This indirectly states that they are the same planet

[Edited on 06.17.2011 12:02 PM PDT]

  • 06.17.2011 11:58 AM PDT

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Posted by: VXG spartan92380

Posted by: hotshot revan II
No just no.

The legendary planet is the size of a planet and Onyx shield world is just a few meters large in real space

And i ask you why would MB send the Chief to the spartans?What's the point?A happy reunion?

There is alot of evidence that disproves the fact that Onyx shield world is related the the legendary planet,if say it has connections with the shield world .

Why Onyx and why not another planet,how unoriginal would a Halo 4 story be?

I would take a bet with all my money that it sin't Onyx,it will be disproven like that "theory" about Reach.

End rant


Frankie (an employee at 343i), in an interview, stated that people who have seen the legendary ending of the game are familiar with the [Halo 4] teaser. This indirectly states that they are the same planet

Not really.

  • 06.17.2011 12:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: VXG spartan92380

Posted by: hotshot revan II
No just no.

The legendary planet is the size of a planet and Onyx shield world is just a few meters large in real space

And i ask you why would MB send the Chief to the spartans?What's the point?A happy reunion?

There is alot of evidence that disproves the fact that Onyx shield world is related the the legendary planet,if say it has connections with the shield world .

Why Onyx and why not another planet,how unoriginal would a Halo 4 story be?

I would take a bet with all my money that it sin't Onyx,it will be disproven like that "theory" about Reach.

End rant


Frankie (an employee at 343i), in an interview, stated that people who have seen the legendary ending of the game are familiar with the [Halo 4] teaser. This indirectly states that they are the same planet

Not really.


it's the same planet for God's sake. Why do some people believe it's different? Oh I forgot, the Legendary Planet is Reach XD

It would make sense for the Shield World to drop out of slipspace. Come to think of it, how exactly would any Forerunners that took refuge in the shield world even get out of the slipspace?

  • 06.17.2011 1:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: VXG spartan92380

Posted by: hotshot revan II
No just no.

The legendary planet is the size of a planet and Onyx shield world is just a few meters large in real space

And i ask you why would MB send the Chief to the spartans?What's the point?A happy reunion?

There is alot of evidence that disproves the fact that Onyx shield world is related the the legendary planet,if say it has connections with the shield world .

Why Onyx and why not another planet,how unoriginal would a Halo 4 story be?

I would take a bet with all my money that it sin't Onyx,it will be disproven like that "theory" about Reach.

End rant


Frankie (an employee at 343i), in an interview, stated that people who have seen the legendary ending of the game are familiar with the [Halo 4] teaser. This indirectly states that they are the same planet

Not really.


it's the same planet for God's sake. Why do some people believe it's different? Oh I forgot, the Legendary Planet is Reach XD

It would make sense for the Shield World to drop out of slipspace. Come to think of it, how exactly would any Forerunners that took refuge in the shield world even get out of the slipspace?

That is a point I have been trying to make. I also think it's possible that MB sent the Chief there mistakenly thinking that any remaining Forerunners would be there.

  • 06.17.2011 6:37 PM PDT

Very impressive, although many Halo fans would be confused if they haven't read Ghost of Onyx.

In all honesty, they would confused on who they were and such. Halsey would be the only recognizable face.

  • 06.17.2011 6:50 PM PDT
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We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: ImmortalJoshua

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: VXG spartan92380

Posted by: hotshot revan II
No just no.

The legendary planet is the size of a planet and Onyx shield world is just a few meters large in real space

And i ask you why would MB send the Chief to the spartans?What's the point?A happy reunion?

There is alot of evidence that disproves the fact that Onyx shield world is related the the legendary planet,if say it has connections with the shield world .

Why Onyx and why not another planet,how unoriginal would a Halo 4 story be?

I would take a bet with all my money that it sin't Onyx,it will be disproven like that "theory" about Reach.

End rant[/quote]

Frankie (an employee at 343i), in an interview, stated that people who have seen the legendary ending of the game are familiar with the [Halo 4] teaser. This indirectly states that they are the same planet

Not really.


it's the same planet for God's sake. Why do some people believe it's different? Oh I forgot, the Legendary Planet is Reach XD

It would make sense for the Shield World to drop out of slipspace. Come to think of it, how exactly would any Forerunners that took refuge in the shield world even get out of the slipspace?

That is a point I have been trying to make. I also think it's possible that MB sent the Chief there mistakenly thinking that any remaining Forerunners would be there.


You guys are underestimating mendicant bias, greatly.

He exhausted the domain, has had several eons to think to himself, and has been "with" the covenant for about 3,000 years.

He knows what he is doing not to mention that since he exhausted the domain he knows how the forerunners think,feel and simply are.

Not to mention he is the greatest known AI to ever be created to our knowledge, it isn't had to believe that he could have been monitoring the forerunners using covenant technology.
The forerunners are going to be on that planet.

  • 06.17.2011 6:54 PM PDT

I apologize but I have to ask a rather nub question. What is Sigma 7? I Halo wiki'd it but nothing came up

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: lolcopter111
I apologize but I have to ask a rather nub question. What is Sigma 7? I Halo wiki'd it but nothing came up
nothing anymore, it was confirmed fake

  • 06.17.2011 6:58 PM PDT


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Posted by: lolcopter111
I apologize but I have to ask a rather nub question. What is Sigma 7? I Halo wiki'd it but nothing came up
nothing anymore, it was confirmed fake


Ahh, thank you for clearing that up

  • 06.17.2011 7:02 PM PDT

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