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Subject: www.BungieAerospace.com the greatest fake site ever?
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Posted by: chotato
smart, interesting, seems out of place.


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I doubt Bungie would have let this go on like it has.

  • 06.17.2011 5:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: acnboy34
But then again, if it was fake, wouldn't Bungie have already taken it down? Its been up for months and Bungie has yet to close it. They took down bungieaerospace.org rather quickly.

I'm fairly certain that bungieaerospace.org was taken down by the sites admin after he had his fun and rick roll'd everyone, not Bungie.

  • 06.17.2011 6:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: acnboy34
But then again, if it was fake, wouldn't Bungie have already taken it down? Its been up for months and Bungie has yet to close it. They took down bungieaerospace.org rather quickly.

I'm fairly certain that bungieaerospace.org was taken down by the sites admin after he had his fun and rick roll'd everyone, not Bungie.
I don't think so. Don't you recall the large banner stating, "this website has been seized by Bungie, Inc due to copyright claims... something, something DMCA notice."?

  • 06.17.2011 6:15 PM PDT

It seems weird that it isn't hosted on the same server as bungie.net, but surely Bungie would have said something by now if it was fake.

  • 06.17.2011 6:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: acnboy34
I don't think so. Don't you recall the large banner stating, "this website has been seized by Bungie, Inc due to copyright claims... something, something DMCA notice."?

Ah, if that's the case then you're right and Bungie definitely took it down. Once Rick Astley popped up I shut down my computer and never visited that site again.

  • 06.17.2011 6:19 PM PDT

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OP: That's some serious information you got there. Although it's all convincing, Bungie would pull something like this off, just to make us go crazy. Heck, Achronos is sitting back in his chair (or whatever he sits on) and laughing at us scramble, trying to find out what this is.

Either way, we will find out what this all means soon enough.

  • 06.17.2011 6:22 PM PDT

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Achronos: And what's this about a "design team" I've been hearing? Apparently stosh is so awesome he's now considered a "team".

Some of this could be explained if they were starting a new branch on the eastern coast. But that doesn't explain why they would go out of their way to make the website the opposite of Bungie.net.

I guess we will find out what it is come Bungie day.

  • 06.17.2011 6:27 PM PDT

READ IT.

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It's Bungie's plan all along... make us think it's fake by registering it in a completely different state...

  • 06.17.2011 6:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: Qbix89
Yes. No.

  • 06.17.2011 6:34 PM PDT

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I'm sort of thinking the same thing, It's being run by Wordpress. Why on earth would Bungie run earth would Bungie run WP? They have there own software. I to think it's fan made.

  • 06.17.2011 7:00 PM PDT

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  • 06.17.2011 7:19 PM PDT

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The stats page is asking for credentials, and I'm thinking that everything is just placeholder.

Related.
More related.

[Edited on 06.17.2011 7:23 PM PDT]

  • 06.17.2011 7:19 PM PDT

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Hmmm. I think it's a dummy site, set up by Bungie, so as to maintain their quirkyness regarding Aerospace.

  • 06.17.2011 7:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: Deus_Ex_Machina
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I hope you realize that he's talking about the fake .org sites and the misc. domains from the other trademarks.

BungieAerospace.com went up before any of them. People were buying up (allegedly) the .org sites to have the next bungie.[insert game title here].org site.
Posted by: ApocalypeX
Look, I hate to be a downer on this one - and I'm not saying for a minute that these AREN'T Bungie's domains - but there is NO evidence whatsoever in this information that 1) makes bungieaerospace.com any more legit than it already was, or 2) connects the other domains to that one.

GoDaddy is a HUGE registrar - they've got more than 40 million domains under registration, according to Wikipedia. And a significant percentage use the Domains By Proxy service. (Hell, I've used it. And my domains registered with it look EXACTLY THE SAME AS THESE.)

Bungieaerospace.com was registered in February 2010. The new copyright stuff all went up on July 27. The new domains weren't registered until October. Bungie has NO history of buying up the .org versions of their domains. (That's not to say they won't start now - just that if you're going to speculate, you might as well use historical data to extrapolate from).

These could be Bungie-registered - or they could be something totally fan-driven, by someone who did the copyright search between July and October.

There is NOTHING tying these domains to Bungie specifically.

  • 06.17.2011 7:31 PM PDT

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Question:

Why couldn't it be possible that someone not on the Bungie Web Team, but still at Bungie, made the website?

It's not difficult to make a smexy image, make a webpage for it and throw it up on a registrar and tah-dah.

Who's to say that the website will even:

A) Cotinue to be under GoDaddy
B) Be used at all for the full-product
C) Keep the same codebase
D) Mean anything after Bungie Day?

I just think that someone in the management of Aerospace decided to make a website for the project, make it viral, and watch people speculate about it.

  • 06.18.2011 12:43 AM PDT

Posted by: ApocalypeX
Bungie.net's whois records [...]
I think this was done to throw people off the trail of thinking it's associated with Bungie.

Posted by: ApocalypeX
The server it's self is not on the same IP as bungie.net's IP [...]
Again, probably to throw people off the trail. However, there's no reason that bungieaerospace.com couldn't be acting as some kind of proxy for something within Bungie.


Posted by: ApocalypeX
Well, aerospace.com is running on an Apache webserver and using PHP [...].
IIS is capable of handling PHP scripts (http://php.iis.net/), and I guess it's possible for IIS (or Apache) to modify default headers and report itself as a different kind of server (ie. check the response headers).

Regarding WordPress, while it's true it's designed for use with PHP and MySQL, again, there's no reason why it couldn't have been installed on an IIS server. In fact, Microsoft makes it available through the WPI (which will install PHP and MySQL as dependencies).


Posted by: ApocalypeX
Let's delve down into the basic HTML and CSS of the site. Bungie.net uses absolute links to the file system. aerospace.com doesn't. Anyone who has created a large enough website will know that this becomes a nightmare.
Actually, both bungie.net and bungieaerospace.com use links relative to the web root. ie.

From Aerospace's CSS file:url('/images/splash/splashbg.jpg');I'd guess that the only reason there are links like "css/splashpage.css" and "images/splash/enterOverlay.gif" is because they are only used in the one and only spot - the home page - and that they're in the same directory. I don't think this is indicative of anything.

Posted by: ApocalypeX
Then we get to the CSS [...]
Again, I don't think this means anything at all. There are declarations in bungie.net's CSS that look like they were written in Visual Studio (default settings), some that are/were dynamically generated, and some that have been written in some other editor (notepad for all we know). Aerospace's CSS looks like it could have been generated in Visual Studio as well, especially when you modify the editor's settings to the Kernighan/Ritchie style (my preferred), but really, all I'm doing is taking stabs in the dark here.

Posted by: ApocalypeX
TL;DR
bungieaerospace.com is fake.
I wouldn't jump the gun just yet. Sure, there's evidence to suggest that it's not affiliated with Bungie INC, but then again, there's also evidence pointing in the opposite direction.

  • 06.18.2011 2:53 AM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
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It wouldn't be the first time they've outsourced for an ARG.

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  • 06.18.2011 3:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: cortana 5
The stats page is asking for credentials, and I'm thinking that everything is just placeholder.

So? If I put a password protected section on my website, does that make it suddenly legit?

Posted by: dazarobbo
I wouldn't jump the gun just yet. Sure, there's evidence to suggest that it's not affiliated with Bungie INC, but then again, there's also evidence pointing in the opposite direction.

Maybe I jumped the gun an announced it fake too soon. But there is ZERO evidence that this site is legit. People are living off blind faith that it's real.

Yes they could be using PHP and MySQL on their IIS server. But why bother? Even if you look at their careers page they are still hiring server engineers with c#.NET knowledge, this shows no move from a Windows platform.

Posted by: SonicJohn
I just think that someone in the management of Aerospace decided to make a website for the project, make it viral, and watch people speculate about it.

Maybe, but what is there to speculate on? The name? And a logo that doesn't even look like that of which they trademarked?

It could be real, who knows. But that's the key thing, there is nothing indicating it's real at the moment. There have been no counter arguments with actual facts, just blind faith. Maybe 1 is valid that it is registered before the trademark. But why has bungieaerospace.com got a website and all the other parked domains that people again on faith believe to be "legit" don't? Those sites are equally as cryptic as Bungieaerospace.com. I guess on Bungie day if it changes we know it's real.

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  • 06.18.2011 4:28 AM PDT

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It is strange, but I'm sure we can just wait a couple of weeks until urk finally spills the beans.
Doesn't really matter whether the site is legit or not.
We could speculate on what Aerospace is, but the domain?

  • 06.18.2011 4:34 AM PDT
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I reserve judgement, but I am leaning towards it being genuine. Given the amount of buzz we've had about it, they'd have let us know by now.

  • 06.18.2011 4:34 AM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: ApocalypeX
It could be real, who knows. But that's the key thing, there is nothing indicating it's real at the moment. There have been no counter arguments with actual facts, just blind faith. Maybe 1 is valid that it is registered before the trademark. But why has bungieaerospace.com got a website and all the other parked domains that people again on faith believe to be "legit" don't? Those sites are equally as cryptic as Bungieaerospace.com. I guess on Bungie day if it changes we know it's real.


What? bungieaerospace.com being registered months before the copyright stuff was put up is a gigantic piece of evidence indicating its legitimacy.

As far as I see it, you have no evidence that the site is a fake.

  • 06.18.2011 5:02 AM PDT

What spectagon are you in?

There are some great points there that make sense, but Bungie aerospace was found around a year ago at the time it was the first anyone had seen of the aerospace logo. A few months later we see Bungie employees wearing shirts with the aerospace logo printed on it. If it is fake how could the person who made it have known about the aerospace logo?

  • 06.18.2011 5:33 AM PDT

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  • 06.18.2011 5:40 AM PDT

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We'll find out soon enough, but I'd be really surprised if it was a "gotcha!" moment.

  • 06.18.2011 5:42 AM PDT

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Looks like OP is wrong, Bungie linked the Aerospace site on the homepage.

  • 06.23.2011 11:36 AM PDT

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