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  • 06.17.2011 9:57 PM PDT
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Imagine a triangle. It's perfect, but a little plain. You take a chisel, and carve a small decorative symbol into it to make it a little more interesting. People like it, but it could use a little more.

So you then take a sledgehammer..

Not my favorite novel, but the Flood is MUCH worse.

Cryptum>Cole Protocol>Ghosts of Onyx>Evolutions>Contact Harvest>First Strike>Fall of Reach>The Flood

[Edited on 06.18.2011 9:49 AM PDT]

  • 06.17.2011 10:18 PM PDT

"Living in the past is a luxury none of us can afford..."
"I know what the ladies like..."

Trashing a book merely because one can't understand the vocabulary being used is quite childish. It helps, and I don't want to sound patronizing, if you grab a dictionary and go through all the "descriptive" words you don't understand, if that's the problem you're having. I found that the descriptions didn't lack much.

  • 06.17.2011 10:28 PM PDT

My name is Legion, for we are many.

The story wasn't bland. The only reason people would think it was bland would be the fact that Spartans weren't mentioned in the novel. Other than that, it did give us some insight into Covenant, especially Jackal culture, and explain all the details about how the war started.

  • 06.17.2011 10:58 PM PDT

I am invisible, understand, simply because people refuse to see me.
--Ralph Ellison

Eh. I liked it. It gave a lot of insight into the different Covenant species, the stuff with the AIs was interesting IMO and, aside from Johnson's hookup with Al-Cygni at the end, I enjoyed his character development. I didn't really have any trouble imagining what I thought it looked like either.

As someone said above me, The Flood was worse, despite both still being good.

  • 06.17.2011 11:06 PM PDT

"What they don't knw Can't hurt Them

Cmon, having a story about Johnson was great. Like n3erdygam3r said this book gave us insight to the meeting of the covenant and personally i think the first contact is pretty damn cool to read about. Also thought that the training and the covenant stories were pretty good, u have to read it a couple times through.

  • 06.17.2011 11:07 PM PDT

My name is Legion, for we are many.

Cmon, having a story about Johnson was great. Like n3erdygam3r said this book gave us insight to the meeting of the covenant and personally i think the first contact is pretty damn cool to read about. Also thought that the training and the covenant stories were pretty good, u have to read it a couple times through.

The exact message I was trying to get across. When I started playing Halo at the mere age of seven, I thought Sergeant Johnson was a interesting, tough character. Then as I grew up and the Halo franchise expanded, I bought and loved all the games, but I began to realize that Johnson was the only human character I didn't like anymore despite him being my favorite character when I was a little kid. Compared to some of the other characters that made appearances in the games, like the Arbiter or Captain Keyes, Johnson seemed too much like the stereotypical military gung-ho badass that sorely lacks a deep backstory. The way I see it, Contact Harvest was a beautifully written book. It deepens and expands Johnson's character by a great deal and it also brings out the Jackals as characters, instead of the Humans (and Elites to some extent), which are grossly over-represented in the previous novels.

  • 06.17.2011 11:26 PM PDT

"What they don't knw Can't hurt Them

Posted by: n3rdygam3r
Cmon, having a story about Johnson was great. Like n3erdygam3r said this book gave us insight to the meeting of the covenant and personally i think the first contact is pretty damn cool to read about. Also thought that the training and the covenant stories were pretty good, u have to read it a couple times through.

The exact message I was trying to get across. When I started playing Halo at the mere age of seven, I thought Sergeant Johnson was a interesting, tough character. Then as I grew up and the Halo franchise expanded, I bought and loved all the games, but I began to realize that Johnson was the only human character I didn't like anymore despite him being my favorite character when I was a little kid. Compared to some of the other characters that made appearances in the games, like the Arbiter or Captain Keyes, Johnson seemed too much like the stereotypical military gung-ho badass that sorely lacks a deep backstory. The way I see it, Contact Harvest was a beautifully written book. It deepens and expands Johnson's character by a great deal and it also brings out the Jackals as characters, instead of the Humans (and Elites to some extent), which are grossly over-represented in the previous novels.


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  • 06.17.2011 11:48 PM PDT

I thought it was alright. Not bad however not great. The ending scene was a little on the wtf side though. Not really necessary if you ask me.

  • 06.17.2011 11:49 PM PDT

Exact science, is not an exact science.

You aint wrong, twas tripe!!

  • 06.18.2011 1:30 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

What the -blam!- is this?

From what I gather, you're saying you don't like Contact Harvest because:
1) Johnson wasn't "badass" like he is in the games.

2) You cannot read properly, Staten has the most descriptive writing style of all Halo authours.

3) You complain about the characters, then about the Johnson/al-Cygni scene which was the result of their development over the time the novel covers. You brand it as "inappropriate", what are you, 4?

4) "Added nothing interesting to the canon"?
- How the Human-Covenant war began.
- Insight into the Covenant religion.
- Developed Truth, Mercy and Regret as villains.
- Developed Johnson and Jenkins as characters from the games.
- Showed us various cultures in the Covenant.

It seems to me that you were incapable of a story that chose characters over big battles; Staten did a fantastic job on the description, developing the relationships of Sif & Mack, Lighter Than Some & Dadab, and Johnson & al-Cygni. As a more descriptive writer, the settings were fleshed out massively.

It's nice you have your opinion, but you're wrong, and you brought it across as some blithering idiot.

  • 06.18.2011 2:28 AM PDT

My name is Legion, for we are many.

^ win.

  • 06.18.2011 4:38 AM PDT

what the -blam!- are u looking for?

just do what i do, if you dont like the place the story is set then ignore it and make up another suitable one from your imagination. it makes books a lot more fun. i think all the books are alright, although i havent read the flood yet.

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  • 06.18.2011 4:48 AM PDT

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I thought it was the only true Halo novel considering how much Eric Nyulands novels almost destroyed Halo.

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  • 06.18.2011 4:48 AM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

Posted by: fxnavarro
Also skipping to the end I found the part with Johnson and al-Cygni highly inapropriate for something like Halo (Even if its M rated). If I wanted to read that stuff I would buy a romance novel or something else. I read Halo for excitement, not smexual pleasure.

I was cringing at that part. LOL
But it was done decently.

  • 06.18.2011 4:56 AM PDT

His novels nearly destroyed Halo? Really?

As for Contact Harvest...

Ajw34307 couldn't have said it any better. You contradict yourself, and you sound like as if you were five years old. Inappropriate behavior? Are you kidding me? And a bland story? You make it sound like that if a book isn't about Spartans torturing themselves through rigorous training and blowing Covenant sky-high, it's not interesting.

"The first confrontation was incredibly dull and the second was even worst and even after reading it over I could not understand what happened. First they were trying to get peace with the Brutes and before I could think, a commander is dead."

The last sentence. You stun me. That scene was perfectly executed. If you couldn't manage to let that register in your brain, then I think you shouldn't be reading at all.

Just wow. Usually I understand peoples' opinions, but this just crosses the line.



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  • 06.18.2011 5:07 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

No Cryptum is. Harvest is probably second.

  • 06.18.2011 5:39 AM PDT
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Sorry if reading the events that led to the epic war you've been fighting for the past 10 years on your Xbox dosen't really attract you.

  • 06.18.2011 6:17 AM PDT

Exact science, is not an exact science.


Posted by: dahuterschuter
No Cryptum is. Harvest is probably second.


You mean Craptum.

  • 06.18.2011 6:26 AM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

I think everyone is forgetting about The Cole Protocol.

This is just my opinion of course. I consider it up there with the worst or unnecessary [The Flood]. They all have their good points but these two books just weren't my type.

  • 06.18.2011 6:32 AM PDT

I liked it. And The Flood.

Come at me bro.

  • 06.18.2011 6:46 AM PDT
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Posted by: evilcam
Bobcast is paid in MILF blind dates.

Personally, I disliked the Cole Protocol. I don't know why, it just seems to be missing something that the other books have.

  • 06.18.2011 7:00 AM PDT


Posted by: SpArTaNo9
I thought it was the only true Halo novel considering how much Eric Nyulands novels almost destroyed Halo.

seriously? more like they created it.

OT: i had at no point any difficulty imagining the setting. i think it might have actually been the easiest.

  • 06.18.2011 8:02 AM PDT

If you can read this, that means I'm not a Shaolin monk...

yet.


Posted by: SpArTaNo9
I thought it was the only true Halo novel considering how much Eric Nyulands novels almost destroyed Halo.

How so?

  • 06.18.2011 8:40 AM PDT
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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

I like reading about the common soldiers, in any fiction. While Master Chief or the Astartes are the poster boys, the common man is who does the fighting. We follow the people who kill an army by themselves but we don't think about the marines who died along the way. Each of them has a story even if it is just holding the line until someone important comes along and they die. As Terry Pratchett says: They may be called the Palace Guard, the City Guard, or the patrol. Whatever the name, their purpose in any work of heroic fantasy is identical: it is, round Chapter Three (or ten minutes into the film) to rush into the room, attack the hero one at a time, and be slaughtered. No one ever asks if they wanted to. This book is for them.
- Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!

  • 06.18.2011 9:29 AM PDT

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