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Lol, I think we've established that what Bungie was mainly looking at when they made the weapon set was actual gameplay, not being realistic. A couple of the weapons, I believe, could be a lot more advanced. (i.e. the AR, and rocket launcher. The RL could be more advanced by making the missiles smaller with the same amount of firepower, allowing more than two rockets to be fired without reloading.)

The Covenant don't really seem very advanced in the "personal arms" department. Of course, this could be due to the fact they've been fighting enemies that probably have shields (which the plasma guns take out very quickly) and who can't handle the molten plasma as well as humans.

That last phrase is kinda ridiculous, but true. The humans can take about four superheated balls of plasma on their body. I gotta say, they're pretty tough.

  • 02.16.2006 6:02 PM PDT
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Well, still it's 400 years later, there physics must be well hundreds of years ahead. We may not think they're is anyway to improve them, but as science changes and new discoveries are make, the weapon will improve. For example hundreds of years ago, they used a round pebble type bullet in muskets, then a couple hundreds years later in somewhere around 1800-1860 they found using a cone shaped bullets improved the chances the bullet hit. Now another example would be muskets 400 years ago to present day modern weapons. Watch, go back in time, show a weapon developer 400 years ago a mordern assult rifle, and he'd go insane, probably take him a few hundred years to understand how it works. Now in 400 years don't you except that kind of advancement.


physics wont change unless the size or mass of the earth changes.

  • 02.16.2006 6:19 PM PDT
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Yes I do think that the weapons in the halo universe are under advanced. But ITS JUST A GAME, bungie doesn't need to make the game really real at all, just so its fun. Also in some first person shooters the weapons are so advanced that you have no idea what is. For example one game called Area 51, for the PS2, the alien RL looked like some advanced machine gun. I learned this later when I shot an alien at point blank range. (by the way Area 51 was just a copy of Halo). If bungie had made the weapons in halo too advanced players would get confused, about what each weapon does. In Halo the convent weapons have to look weird because there alien. So I think the weapons are under advanced BUT WHO CARES??? HALO IS STILL THE BEST GAME IN THE WORLD!

  • 02.16.2006 7:15 PM PDT
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lets just say this in the future we are dirt poor and can not afford any good guns. end of story lol.

  • 02.16.2006 9:47 PM PDT
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Now i get to invade another thread! yay!

alright first, i dont mean to be mean, but stop being so damn arrogant! Or perhapes short sighted. what i mean is there is a gun (that an infantry unit can man single handedly), that blows all the guns you have mentioned, to pieces, very hot, and very small pieces. And useless, they are also useless.

click this.

(note: video included)

if you are too lazy to click that link then let me lay down the facts.

1. no heat..
2. no sound.
3. no recoil.
4. no visible fireing signature (muzzle flash).
5. no jams.
6. fires .308 caliber and .50 caliber metal projectiles accurately at up to 8,000 fps (feet-per-second)
7. infinitely variable/programmable cyclic rate-of-fire (as high as 120,000 rounds-per-minute)
8.capable of laying down a 360-degree field of fire.
9. can be mounted on almost any type military vehicle.
10. it will soon be able to fire at 5,000-8,000 fps range with no difficulty.

now that i might have your interest, you can take a look at the rest of the information in that link. but something worth noting, is that it doesnt use "conventional", methods of propelling a small metalic projectile. This weapon uses centrifuge. so instead of using self-contained cartridges containing powdered propellant, or gunpowder, it will literaly spin the projectiles out at speeds as high as 8000 fps. Master Chief eat your heart out.

So if you still care about what i have to say, i do think the weapons are alittle odd in game. one thing is that plasma isnt hard to create (so long as you have a nice energy source), a few crisscrossing lasers, shoot some gas in the focal point, and then apply some magnetic direction bam plasma projectiles. the thing is you could make plasma that is 100,000F easy, so why dont you (or your marines who have no armor or shields on their faces), go down when you take a shot to the face? i suppose its not unreasonable to assume that the covenants technology doesnt allow for enough energy to be created. but still what they are able to achieve should take you out.

Another thing is the fuel rod gun. in halo 1, and halo 2 the fuel rod guns projectiles arched downwards, but if it is super heated plasma, it should be arching upwards.

other than those things its so so bad, especialy when you consider they are going for fun, not extreme realism. perhapes some things could be changed, but i like it as it is (mostly).

-Fooluaintblack

ps. some of what i have said was directly quoted from the linked website, please excuse my lack of quotation marks to indicate them.

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  • 02.17.2006 1:11 AM PDT
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it was kinda square right? atleast the part where the bullets come out? i saw a video of it (sorry dont have a link to this one), if there is no one around make this sound as loud as you can BRR, hold it for less than have a second, and thats how long it took that gun to fire some vast amount of bullets. i dont remember how many, its been awhile.


[url=http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001944.html]SMAW-NE[ /url]
I also forgot to mention another gun ive seen, the military has been using a gun that is based on a new warhead. Described as NE "Novel Explosive", it is a thermobaric mixture which ignites the air, producing a shockwave of unparalleled destructive power, especially against buildings. it could literaly blow your house down (a smaller house anyway), One unit disintegrated a large one-storey masonry type building with one round from 100 meters. so far it seems only the USMC (United States Marine Corp), has used it, go Master Chief. there is alot more information on the link above, take a look.

-Fooluaintblack

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  • 02.17.2006 11:59 AM PDT
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heh oops double posted.

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  • 02.17.2006 12:00 PM PDT
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did anyone ever stop to consider the fact that this is science-fiction, and since it is fictional, the author can write it however he wants?

  • 02.17.2006 12:46 PM PDT
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Yes i did consider that, but i also considered that the halo universe, and good science fiction in general, work much better when elements of reality are kept in there. Having reality be the back bone that holds everything up, and science fiction being the rest keeps the story simple, this way everyone can keep up with it, and understand. keeping that in mind, realistically, the weapons and such should be more advanced. but then again to counter that, it also has to be kept fun. so over all a delicate balance, but i like it.

-Fooluaintblack

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