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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
We are all going to get banned aren't we?
Posted by: SubjectNameHere
Posted by: grey101
Posted by: SubjectNameHere
Posted by: grey101
Way to prove my point of sounding like a condescending -blam!- in every post. Each post in this thread, you sound like one. I've never seen you post in any other way on this forum. Also, the age of my Bungie account has no bearing on my activity, knowledge, and fandom within the Halo universe.
"which is where I'm guessing dinosaurs come in" - um what does that even mean? You say "just get the book", but you don't answer my questions even though you act like a superior ass because you have the knowledge. It's true, you have the book and you know more about it than I do. You should be able to answer my questions regarding human evolution. Even if we are under the assumption that ancient humanity comes from elsewhere, why then are there two million year old fossils H. erectus on Earth?
This is taken from Halopedian, so it can't be taken automatically 100% true, but here you go: "Around 150,000-110,000 BCE, before the Human-Forerunner wars, humanity had achieved a Technological Achievement system of Tier 1, on par with the Forerunners, although their catastrophic defeat by the Forerunners would see them reduced to a pre-industrial state as hunter-gatherer tribes, forced to achieve technological sophistication again."
Why are there fossils of human ancestors that are millions of years old, then? Even if the Forerunners "devolved" us, all the extinct hominid species should still be radiometrically dated at atleast <150,000. This makes species like H. neanderthalensis and H. floresiensis acceptable, but older humans do not fit the bill, not to mention the Australopithecines and Ardipithecines.
If you can't answer that, that's fine, that's just going to be where the fiction fails to line up with reality.
your age is relevant because you haven't seen any of my other post for the 4 plus year i have been here, i am more agitated right now for reasons other senior members here can explain. but that isn't important.
can you stop being so emotional and just read the information? the point of me saying "this is where the dinosaurs come in" was stating this might have been the time humanity left earth and moved their empire. and not every single answer was answered in the book which is why there are going to be 2 more and numerous media around it, not everything is going to be told ASAP.
lol I'm not being emotional, I'm actually trying to converse with people on a forum in a civilized and polite manner. I don't think I can say the same about you. I'm sorry, but you don't answer what you meant by the whole dinosaur thing.
Posted by: OrderedComa
Posted by: SubjectNameHere
I haven't read Cryptum, so I can't completely hate on it yet, but I have my qualms with the information I've gotten about it. I'm sure the quality of the writing is fine, and so is most of the lore, but I really don't like the idea of an ancient space-faring humanity. It completely throws our knowledge of human evolution out the window. I've also heard that our species isn't even related to the other forms of life on Earth, although I'm not sure if that's true. If it is, it's pretty disappointing. I mean, in fiction and especially in fantasy and science-fiction, you're obviously going to get some parts where reality has to be suspended for the plot or canon, but you have to draw a line or it seems ridiculous.
I don't get why it would be such a big deal that Halo slightly differs from what is claimed by the Theory of Evolution's believers. Halo is a fictional universe based on ours...it shouldn't be bound by whatever theories there are to explain the origins of our universe, that completely defeats the purpose of fiction. And you should read the book, because it actually does match up, and plus the firing of the Halo array would muck up fossil records anyway.
And I wouldn't put too much stock in dating methods used to determine the age of remains anyway, from findings and all I've seen they're not entirely reliable.
Because the theory of evolution is a fundamental aspect of biological life, and our species (as well as all forms of life on the planet) has a long evolutionary journey from point A to point B. As someone who is going to school to be a biological anthropologist, I do know a little bit about the subject, and we have a pretty damn good idea of when species were alive and where they come from. Your last sentence...Are you saying that radiometric dating on extinct hominids is untrustworthy? I don't think you quite understand the nature of that kind of business.
Also, how would the Halo weapon muck up the fossil record? The Halo weapon, as I understand it, kills off any sentient animal with sufficient biomass to sustain the Flood. That doesn't really affect dead organisms, whose bones have been fossilized (replaced by non-organic minerals).
It's not that I'm getting worked up that Cryptum doesn't line up with our knowledge of human evolution, I'm just trying to understand where it jumps off of reality and into fiction, as stated in my previous posts. So, within each of grey101's "You don't know anything, you have to read the book to even begin discussing it" posts, I've discerned that he doesn't know. Not to his discredit, of course, the book just doesn't offer up a logical explanation, as of yet.
"I'm sorry, but you don't answer what you meant by the whole dinosaur thing. "
the point of me saying "this is where the dinosaurs come in" was stating this might have been the time humanity left earth and moved their empire.
"I've discerned that he doesn't know. "
not every single answer was answered in the book which is why there are going to be 2 more and numerous media around it, not everything is going to be told ASAP.
I answered both in my posts.