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Subject: Do you like the Story that cryptum revealed?

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I really don't think the idea of the Flood coming from a powder is terribly different than what we already knew, we just never put two and two together. Because the Flood's ability to infect it's victims is based on the Flood Super Cell. The infection forms pierce the victim with it's tendrils and inject the FSC into it's central nervous system to take control of it.

So I would think in large enough quantities the Flood Super Cell would be similar to a powder when dry(assumption but is seems plausible).

That opens up a whole other can of worms concerning who put the Flood on the ships and the amount of control they had over them. But that is for another thread.

OT: Yes I really liked the story. Because as I said it didn't really change anything it just made a lot of details that were vague; The Flood, The Forerunner, Humanity, clear.

[Edited on 06.19.2011 10:51 AM PDT]

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Posted by: Thrasher Fan
I thought it was a great story. Of course there are things that need to be explained in the other books. (Such as the change from 12 halos to 7)


5 of the 12 Halos were destroyed when Mendicant Bias assaulted the Capital.


Yes, but if the Ark could have built more (as seen with Installation 4-B) why didn't they?

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I thought it was a great story. Of course there are things that need to be explained in the other books. (Such as the change from 12 halos to 7)


5 of the 12 Halos were destroyed when Mendicant Bias assaulted the Capital.


Yes, but if the Ark could have built more (as seen with Installation 4-B) why didn't they?


becuase it wasn't finished building the current ones, not to mention, this is just before the halo plan is thought of.

  • 06.19.2011 10:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101

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Things wrong:
1. They turned the Forerunners into a race of xenophobic xenocidal maniacs.
2. Humanity was butt[REDACTED] by said maniacs.
3. The Forerunners apparently wiped out the Precursors. Though given The Prisoner LIES...



1. when was it ever stated what they were socially before cryptum though? all we knew of them were ruins

Before, the Forerunners were benevolent, caring, upholding the "Mantle".
Cryptum came along, said "SCREW THE MANTLE", and turned the Forerunners into rabid dogs.

Most Forerunners saw the Mantle as a simple fairy tale. Very few of them actually took it to heart. Example, The Liberian. Besides why ALL Forerunner think the exact same way. Plus they already were a bit controlling of their subjects already. Taking away any military technology to keep control over them.

  • 06.19.2011 10:55 AM PDT

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I liked Cryptum's story but it confused me because humans were not forerunners as guilty spark had said to John "You are forerunner"

  • 06.19.2011 11:05 AM PDT

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Posted by: Bloodshattered12
I liked Cryptum's story but it confused me because humans were not forerunners as guilty spark had said to John "You are forerunner"

How can Forerunners be human when Forerunners discovered humanity? Forerunner is probably nothing more than a title to be passed down.

  • 06.19.2011 11:50 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Not at all. As I've said many times, I didn't find the story very imaginative and disappointing. I didn't find anything wrong with the writing in it, just the ideas it presented.

Recently I've come under fire by certain individuals for not Giving an explanation for why I find it unimaginative and disappointing, so here's me summing it up the best I can (Robertojh, this is for you since you usually call me out on it):

What I found particularly bland was the idea of an advanced ancient human race. Now if you're a sci-fi fan you'll know that this is an idea that has occurred in many novels recently all the way back to the early years of sci-fi. It just seemed like a weak plot point to have an ancient human race, it's been done. I feel like the author just didn't think the Halo community could accept a novel which didn't have humans in it, because their inclusion was completely unnecessary.

It's never been clearly hinted at that there was an advanced human race, it just came out of no-where. The novel would have been able to completely support itself if it only featured the Forerunners.

Now, my disappointment with this stems from my view on the ideas it presents and my love for the Haloverse. Halo has such huge potential to have an amazing background. That's actually one of the things I liked best about the series, is that it was a sci-fi series which hadn't been made into something ridiculous by it's extended universe. It's still not quite there, but Cryptum took it a step in that direction.

It's just disappointing that this will now be the definitive background to Halo. This overdone, mediocre story. And that's really it's biggest crime, is that the story is just mediocre. It's not bad or good. It just is.

Also, if I can add to my already overly lengthy post, I didn't like how they portrayed the Forerunners. I know that's pretty weak and really just entirely my preconception of what they were like, but the way they were set up before by previous fiction didn't seem represented at all by their Cryptum selves.


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  • 06.19.2011 12:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
Seeing how i have seen 4 people now say they didn't like the book due to the same reason ?(which i will say) and others that didn't like it and why?

People didn't like it becuase

-forerunners acted more like sentient beings than gods

-The flood infestation coming from a powder

-forerunners and humans being on the same level

etc.


I personally feel that the bias of what people wanted the forerunners to be portrayed as and how they wanted the story to go is the reason they didn't like the book. Not to mention the "lack of action" and the sheer amount of information that some people just don't want to understand.

I am going to compare cryptum to halowars in a since that it was something new that wasn't expect therefore people didn't like it. not to mention the book was suppose to tell about the forerunners and not an action book.


Yes, they forget that the Forerunners weren't acctually gods.
And while the flood did come into being as a powder, it wasn't a human made powder (as far as we know), the book describes it was found in ships that arrived into our galaxy. The powder itself was the flood in essence.

  • 06.19.2011 12:45 PM PDT

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