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Subject: What happened to the precursor remmnants in the galaxy?
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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before anybody tries to say "they were destroyed by halo fire" they were only destroyed because of being on a certain tuning, which i doubt is the same tuning that was used during the galactic wipeout


even during the forerunner times there seemed to be a lack of precursor technology found. they are claimed to be indestructible yet only small relics or few ships have ever been found, so why is this?

The forerunners were said to control the whole galaxy (highly debatable) yet only 1 precursor world was found, even then it was human controlled? Why do you think the lack of ruins is?

  • 06.20.2011 10:04 PM PDT

Didn't cryptum say they found many precursor artifacts but they largely ignored them? It is possible they found precursor worlds just they didn't didn't care about them. Also the forerunners seem to be the kind who wouldn't want to rely on other technology other than their own. Humans were essentially desperate for worlds near the end of the Forerunner-Human war so they would take advantage of precursor ruins.

[Edited on 06.20.2011 10:12 PM PDT]

  • 06.20.2011 10:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

You clearly didn't read the disclaimer.

  • 06.20.2011 10:09 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101
You clearly didn't read the disclaimer.
Sorry. Edited post.

[Edited on 06.20.2011 10:10 PM PDT]

  • 06.20.2011 10:10 PM PDT

How do we know that all the Halo rings activated correctly when the Forerunners used them? There is potential that maybe something precursor survived, and if you look on the Xbox.com listing for Halo 4 it says,

"Halo 4 is the next blockbuster installment in the iconic franchise that's shaped entertainment history and defined a decade of gaming. Set in the aftermath of Halo 3, Master Chief returns to confront his own destiny and face an ancient evil that threatens the fate of the entire universe. Halo 4 marks the start of a new trilogy that begins with its release in 2012"

So, what if this ancient evil is the Precursors?

  • 06.20.2011 10:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: Gamefreak2590
How do we know that all the Halo rings activated correctly when the Forerunners used them? There is potential that maybe something precursor survived, and if you look on the Xbox.com listing for Halo 4 it says,

"Halo 4 is the next blockbuster installment in the iconic franchise that's shaped entertainment history and defined a decade of gaming. Set in the aftermath of Halo 3, Master Chief returns to confront his own destiny and face an ancient evil that threatens the fate of the entire universe. Halo 4 marks the start of a new trilogy that begins with its release in 2012"

So, what if this ancient evil is the Precursors?


It worked 343,2401, nor info at the ark states otherwise (non to mention everything died and was re-seeded).

could be, hell since we don't have info on them we don't know for sure.

  • 06.20.2011 10:14 PM PDT

I don't think the Milky Way was the precursor's "home galaxy". Reason why they don't have many artifacts laying around, before the Halos activation. That's just my personal opinion though.

  • 06.20.2011 10:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: falcon8134
I don't think the Milky Way was the precursor's "home galaxy". Reason why they don't have many artifacts laying around, before the Halos activation. That's just my personal opinion though.


I think so also.

  • 06.20.2011 10:17 PM PDT

What I want to know is if the precursors really created the flood

  • 06.20.2011 10:19 PM PDT


Posted by: falcon8134
I don't think the Milky Way was the precursor's "home galaxy". Reason why they don't have many artifacts laying around, before the Halos activation. That's just my personal opinion though.


Oh, very smart observation. So then, if trying to tie this to where Halo 4 is going, where is Chief? When that jump occurred at the end of 3 did he end up in a galaxy native to the precurosrs or possibly even Forerunner inhabited, though I am a little murky on my Forerunner Lore.

  • 06.20.2011 10:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: DESTROYER CGT
What I want to know is if the precursors really created the flood


nah, from what we know the ships the flood came on were nothing like precursor ships

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Posted by: falcon8134
I don't think the Milky Way was the precursor's "home galaxy". Reason why they don't have many artifacts laying around, before the Halos activation. That's just my personal opinion though.


Oh, very smart observation. So then, if trying to tie this to where Halo 4 is going, where is Chief? When that jump occurred at the end of 3 did he end up in a galaxy native to the precurosrs or possibly even Forerunner inhabited, though I am a little murky on my Forerunner Lore.


MC is our galaxy banking of of the "it will take years for them to find us" line.

[Edited on 06.20.2011 10:24 PM PDT]

  • 06.20.2011 10:23 PM PDT

Also, I agree it is quite odd that there was only one precursor planet. Maybe they were new to the galaxy and had no time to expand? Or maybe the planet possessed certain "needs" that they needed to survive? I can't answer that question.

  • 06.20.2011 10:25 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: DESTROYER CGT
What I want to know is if the precursors really created the flood


nah, from what we know the ships the flood came on were nothing like precursor ships

Posted by: Gamefreak2590

Posted by: falcon8134
I don't think the Milky Way was the precursor's "home galaxy". Reason why they don't have many artifacts laying around, before the Halos activation. That's just my personal opinion though.


Oh, very smart observation. So then, if trying to tie this to where Halo 4 is going, where is Chief? When that jump occurred at the end of 3 did he end up in a galaxy native to the precurosrs or possibly even Forerunner inhabited, though I am a little murky on my Forerunner Lore.


MC is our galaxy banking of of the "it will take years for them to find us" line.


Is it possible Cortana doesn't even know exactly where they are? They could still be floating around the galaxy's outter rim. I don't know much about that particular thing, but I wouldn't rule it out. Then again, I don't know why a shield world would be all the way out there.

[Edited on 06.20.2011 10:30 PM PDT]

  • 06.20.2011 10:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: DESTROYER CGT
What I want to know is if the precursors really created the flood


nah, from what we know the ships the flood came on were nothing like precursor ships

What does the precursor ships look like?

  • 06.20.2011 11:37 PM PDT
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They left. Or ascended to a higher plane of existance. Or downloaded themselves into robots.

  • 06.20.2011 11:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: DESTROYER CGT
What I want to know is if the precursors really created the flood


nah, from what we know the ships the flood came on were nothing like precursor ships

What does the precursor ships look like?

Not sure but they architecture is a crystalline gray-silver organic, non-organic material. And humanity was familiar with precursor technology and described the ships as ancient automated and bulky.

  • 06.20.2011 11:47 PM PDT

"What they don't knw Can't hurt Them

yea already knew that part just was wondering with Grey101 statement on the ships bringing over the flood not being precursor. How can you be sure, we don't think we know what the precursor ships look like.

  • 06.20.2011 11:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: jckinter06
yea already knew that part just was wondering with Grey101 statement on the ships bringing over the flood not being precursor. How can you be sure, we don't think we know what the precursor ships look like.


becuase both races are more than familiar with precursor technology, and it is unlikely that the precursors created the flood since that would be too much of a cliche, and far too predictable.

  • 06.20.2011 11:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
becuase both races are more than familiar with precursor technology, and it is unlikely that the precursors created the flood since that would be too much of a cliche, and far too predictable.


Mkays, yea that would make sense.

  • 06.20.2011 11:57 PM PDT

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Well, maybe Didact had the insight to activate the rings on that "destroy all Precursor technology" setting. Maybe the Flood adapted to utilize it? (Gravemind is telepathic.)

We don't really know exactly what happened, but I'm banking he knew what he was doing.

Also, didn't the Precursors get killed off by the Forerunners? If they had a war with them, then how do you suppose they won if they couldn't destroy their ships and buildings? Hell, they probably used smaller scale Halos on them. Maybe ship-to-ship versions even. Either Bornstellar or Didact said when the Forerunners went to war, they went total war.

They probably simply got destroyed in the war.

  • 06.21.2011 2:56 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: jckinter06
yea already knew that part just was wondering with Grey101 statement on the ships bringing over the flood not being precursor. How can you be sure, we don't think we know what the precursor ships look like.


becuase both races are more than familiar with precursor technology, and it is unlikely that the precursors created the flood since that would be too much of a cliche, and far too predictable.


Even still, though. It has been theorised the Precursors made the Flood when the Bestarium revealed that a Tier 0 race could create life/accelerate evolution. It's a tad convenient.

As for John's location, I'd say (and grey will agree) that he's simply beyond the Orion Arm.

[Edited on 06.21.2011 3:12 AM PDT]

  • 06.21.2011 3:10 AM PDT


Posted by: Sniffy66
Didn't cryptum say they found many precursor artifacts but they largely ignored them? It is possible they found precursor worlds just they didn't didn't care about them. Also the forerunners seem to be the kind who wouldn't want to rely on other technology other than their own. Humans were essentially desperate for worlds near the end of the Forerunner-Human war so they would take advantage of precursor ruins.

If memory serves, it was implied that the forerunners' slipspace crystals where taken from precursor tech. I'll have to read the book again.

  • 06.21.2011 3:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

If the Forerunners went to war with the Precursors, perhaps the Precursors implanted a "scorched earth" policy as a last snub to the Forerunners. Cryptum made it clear that a working precursor artifact could be immensely valuable.

  • 06.21.2011 5:31 AM PDT


Posted by: grey101
before anybody tries to say "they were destroyed by halo fire" they were only destroyed because of being on a certain tuning, which i doubt is the same tuning that was used during the galactic wipeout

They were not on a certain tuning for precursor technology. Precursor technology works on neural physics, so the "tune" on the halos that destroy sentient life also destroy precursor technology.

  • 06.21.2011 6:20 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: grey101
before anybody tries to say "they were destroyed by halo fire" they were only destroyed because of being on a certain tuning, which i doubt is the same tuning that was used during the galactic wipeout

They were not on a certain tuning for precursor technology. Precursor technology works on neural physics, so the "tune" on the halos that destroy sentient life also destroy precursor technology.


bornstellers father clearly says it was impossible for "that" (prisoner to be broken free, ruins destroyed) with the tuning he had put it on. i can get a quote if you like.

  • 06.21.2011 6:49 AM PDT

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