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CoD, even playing field.... ha! Ha ha hah! CoD is as far from ballanced as is possible for a game! Halo at least gives all players equal opportunities, if one player can take a sniper any other player can as well. In CoD, however, players who have played longer will have better weaponry, perks, AND skill, rather than just skill.

Your argument is invalid.

  • 06.21.2011 8:11 PM PDT

Bungie must be conspiring against you, putting you into bad games in order to annoy you. Or maybe they included in their code a small tweak that makes it more likely that all of the good players will be put onto one team. Why they would do either of these things I don't know. Therefore I am led to the conclusion that you are whining. So go away.

  • 06.21.2011 10:07 PM PDT

You realize that those Inheritors and Eclipses are probably at your skill level right? Trueskill is there to match you with people with the same skill level as you. Those ranks have NOTHING to do with their skill. They simply show how many credits they've achieved in-game.

Also, Halo is much more balanced than Black Ops and/or MW2. COD4 was pretty good, but they've all gone downhill. I hope MW3 goes back to COD4-esque multiplayer.

Also, if you can't kill a banshee, you've got bigger problems. Banshee's are the easiest vehicles to kill/hijack. Just grab a plasma pistol and EMP the darn thing. and as for the sniper, use hologram or invis.

Oh, and one more thing... wrong forum.

[Edited on 06.21.2011 10:53 PM PDT]

  • 06.21.2011 10:51 PM PDT

actually I agree with the OP, so often get put in similar games. me and mate tend to play a lot of SWAT these days and objective games, which are close to impossible when your against an actual team, all communicating and such. shouldn't be getting matched against inheritors and such, that right there is a broken matchmaking system since its putting people with people of a much much much higher rank, therefore more experienced, therefore more likely to prevail. not saying COD does it any better but doesn't make it a good system non the less.

  • 06.22.2011 4:24 AM PDT

BOOM HEADSHOT!

"Yay"

who doesnt love Grunt Birthday Party

COD is noob freindly thats why people like it

[Edited on 06.22.2011 4:38 AM PDT]

  • 06.22.2011 4:37 AM PDT

If I was in a room with justin Bieber, Bin Laden, Hitler and a gun with two bullets I would Shoot Bieber twice.
Posted by:Albert Einstein
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Posted by: RyanQuinn2010
COD is noob freindly thats why people like it


this and

Posted by: A JAR OF PICKLE
CoD, even playing field.... ha! Ha ha hah! CoD is as far from ballanced as is possible for a game! Halo at least gives all players equal opportunities, if one player can take a sniper any other player can as well. In CoD, however, players who have played longer will have better weaponry, perks, AND skill, rather than just skill.

Your argument is invalid.


this

  • 06.22.2011 5:22 AM PDT

Exact science, is not an exact science.

Ha Ha Ha, this chap needs a girlfriend Lol!!

  • 06.22.2011 7:20 AM PDT

Posted by: SHOMENUCHI
Ha Ha Ha, this chap needs a girlfriend Lol!!

Ha ha ha, I'd like this post if this was facebook.

  • 06.22.2011 7:30 AM PDT

"I'm sorry man, I don't even know why I got in on this side... SHOTGUN!!!"


Posted by: A JAR OF PICKLE
CoD, even playing field.... ha! Ha ha hah! CoD is as far from ballanced as is possible for a game! Halo at least gives all players equal opportunities, if one player can take a sniper any other player can as well. In CoD, however, players who have played longer will have better weaponry, perks, AND skill, rather than just skill.

Your argument is invalid.


TL;DR: FAMAS; Galil; AK-74u. OP's argument is invalid.

P.S. Wrong forum. Go to the Flood.


[Edited on 06.22.2011 7:34 AM PDT]

  • 06.22.2011 7:34 AM PDT

Deal with it.


Posted by: noquarter06
Dear Bungie, why is it that whenever I play BigTeam Slayer (And other gametypes) I continously am facing a team of 8 legends, eclipse, and inheriteor ranks all in a party with mics, when I and most of my team is an avarage of a major with guests playing. I understand people like to play with friends online but could you not find other 8 person , or even 4/4 or 5/3 person parties these teams could play against, randoms to play against randoms, and find teams with guests whom can play against other guests. Match the K/D ratio's up for even games. It doesn't seem like rocket appliances to me... Yes rocket appliances I said it.

Now I wouldn't mind this soooooo much, if the team is content on winning, but that's not the case at all. They will pick neutral bomb, or an objective gametype for a 15 minute game not touching the bomb and simply going for kills (even holding on to it for the extra 30 sudden death seconds) until the opposing team quits out or (because they don't want a temporary ban) says screw it and just takes the deaths. Whats worst of all is these players think they are MLG pro's and the greatest Halo players to have every lived from getting a great KD and Win % in tilted one sided matches.

I have played Halo for a long time and it goes withouts saying I'm use to this, but I think it's rediculous for players who are new/semi new to the game to be trapped in there base from banshees, snipers and every other power weapon/vehicle it's frusterating to no end. This is one of many the reasons so many people are switching from Halo to COD, it's a more even playing field in COD, even when playing against a team of 8 experienced players you have a chance.

I know Bungie doesn't have the rights to the upcoming Halo 4 game, but you are still doing updates and I thought this should be heard as I'm sure new players quit the game out of frusteration. Thanks, I really hope you do something, although I'm sure you wont.



I'm sorry, Bungie's to busy not caring about the concerns of a mortal like yourself.


Additionally, maybe you should get more friends? If your being matched up with full parties, sounds like you need to get your social life in order.



P.S: no crying in the universe section, save that stuff for feedback.

[Edited on 06.22.2011 9:41 AM PDT]

  • 06.22.2011 9:39 AM PDT
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Time to get a drink and watch the world burn. Or deal with it.

Begone!

  • 06.22.2011 10:14 AM PDT
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First of all, getting my social life in order doesn't consist of making friends on video games and partying up with them for unbalanced games, perhaps thats your ideal Friday night, or perhaps it's browsing through the "Bungie Universe" to discuss topics of discussion that would apeal to many virgins like yourself. Aditionally... for all worth it's a legitamite argument, this is why so many people are moving to COD, it's noob friendly. Sorry I'm not at the right forum didn't mean to wreck your entire weekend nerd, thanks now STFU. :)

  • 06.24.2011 1:47 AM PDT
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Halo is an even playing field at start, not with the broken matchmaking system. It's a valid argument imagine 2 weeks into the game and you get paired up with others fairly new with people who have been playing 8 hours a day since it came out who trap your noobish team in it's base with banshees. It's like a pro boxer getting joy in fighting amateurs, and you're telling me thats fair? Get real

  • 06.24.2011 1:51 AM PDT
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No offense, but have you ever faced a full team in CoD Demolition (for example). I haven't either, I'm always in the full team, quite fun to go 100-11 or so, with constant blackbirds/choppers/dogs up.
We even arm bombs in such a way we have the maximum amount of playtime (= killfarming).

Playing against a full team in either Halo (you are absolutely right, its killfarming) or CoD when you are not in one is not fair. However, if your good enough you can actually break a full team.
A friend and I have on multiple occasions made a full enemy (CoD) team ragequit.

  • 06.24.2011 1:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: noquarter06
Dear Bungie, why is it that whenever I play BigTeam Slayer (And other gametypes) I continously am facing a team of 8 legends, eclipse, and inheriteor ranks all in a party with mics, when I and most of my team is an avarage of a major with guests playing. I understand people like to play with friends online but could you not find other 8 person , or even 4/4 or 5/3 person parties these teams could play against, randoms to play against randoms, and find teams with guests whom can play against other guests. Match the K/D ratio's up for even games. It doesn't seem like rocket appliances to me... Yes rocket appliances I said it.

Now I wouldn't mind this soooooo much, if the team is content on winning, but that's not the case at all. They will pick neutral bomb, or an objective gametype for a 15 minute game not touching the bomb and simply going for kills (even holding on to it for the extra 30 sudden death seconds) until the opposing team quits out or (because they don't want a temporary ban) says screw it and just takes the deaths. Whats worst of all is these players think they are MLG pro's and the greatest Halo players to have every lived from getting a great KD and Win % in tilted one sided matches.

I have played Halo for a long time and it goes withouts saying I'm use to this, but I think it's rediculous for players who are new/semi new to the game to be trapped in there base from banshees, snipers and every other power weapon/vehicle it's frusterating to no end. This is one of many the reasons so many people are switching from Halo to COD, it's a more even playing field in COD, even when playing against a team of 8 experienced players you have a chance.

I know Bungie doesn't have the rights to the upcoming Halo 4 game, but you are still doing updates and I thought this should be heard as I'm sure new players quit the game out of frusteration. Thanks, I really hope you do something, although I'm sure you wont.


See, this is EXACTLY why matchmaking sucks on all games. Who the hell wants to be on a losing team, spawn with AR, being gunned down every corner they move?

Even if you take caution, your Random allies keep dying and you will lose anyways.

  • 06.24.2011 2:09 AM PDT

You are just whining. COD is much less unbalanced than Halo, their matchmacking system barely cares about rank or party size.

  • 06.24.2011 7:03 AM PDT


Posted by: noquarter06
Halo is an even playing field at start, not with the broken matchmaking system. It's a valid argument imagine 2 weeks into the game and you get paired up with others fairly new with people who have been playing 8 hours a day since it came out who trap your noobish team in it's base with banshees. It's like a pro boxer getting joy in fighting amateurs, and you're telling me thats fair? Get real


Whats fair is they outskilled you, got the Banshee before you did, and had better team coordination.

However, you shouldn't have been teamed up with a group assuming you have your social settings set to lone wolf.

If not, then literally nothing about the game itself made you get your ass handed to you. They simply outskilled you.

Everyone in Halo starts off with the exact same oppurtunities; whether or not you take advantage of them is your fault.

  • 06.24.2011 7:09 AM PDT


Posted by: noquarter06
Halo is an even playing field at start, not with the broken matchmaking system. It's a valid argument imagine 2 weeks into the game and you get paired up with others fairly new with people who have been playing 8 hours a day since it came out who trap your noobish team in it's base with banshees. It's like a pro boxer getting joy in fighting amateurs, and you're telling me thats fair? Get real

Get used to it. It also happens in real life and sports.
Just to give you an example: I started practising Taekwondo some time ago. I'm a 15 year old white belt and I get matched up with 20 year old blue belt. Is it fair? No. Do I get my ass kicked? Yes. Do I start whining? No.

  • 06.24.2011 7:10 AM PDT

Rook

Posted by: Thugzz Deluxxxe
You realize that those Inheritors and Eclipses are probably at your skill level right? Trueskill is there to match you with people with the same skill level as you.


Do you realize that TrueSkill/Optimatch isn't a perfect science, right? Granted, it takes a lot of things into consideration when it matches people against one another, but it does not take into consideration that people playing by themselves are at a SEVERE disadvantage when they are pitted against a full or practically full team.

Posted by: Thugzz Deluxxxe
Those ranks have NOTHING to do with their skill. They simply show how many credits they've achieved in-game.


Their ranks ARE a factor though. Typically, when you see an Eclipse, Nova, Forerunner, Reclaimer, or Inheritor, it means that they have played the game for an unbelievable amount of time. And when you see them in a large party, it is safe to assume that they always play together--meaning that they know how to coordinate spawn camps and all-out rushes.

Posted by: Thugzz Deluxxxe
Also, if you can't kill a banshee, you've got bigger problems. Banshee's are the easiest vehicles to kill/hijack. Just grab a plasma pistol and EMP the darn thing. and as for the sniper, use hologram or invis.


Do you realize how hard it is to plasma pistol a banshee, especially when most people flying them ALWAYS do barrel rolls every 5-10 seconds? It's nearly impossible.

I believe that you haven't played against many of these types of teams have you, Thugzz Deluxxxe?

  • 06.24.2011 7:36 AM PDT

tell you what dude, that is one of the most annoying things in the entire of Halo: Reach, people who fly around in the banshee constantly doing barrels rolls and stuff! we had about five people shoot one at the same time with overcharged plasmas and we ALL missed, which is stupid! all people do is fuel rod, trick, fuel rod, trick, fuel rod, trick and endlessly so on until someone gets a SPLASER and puts them in their place!

had a wicked game once with some 'forerunner' ranked person who was sooooooo terrible outside of a banshee it was unreal, how he was that rank is beyond me, no life other than Halo I would guess, anyway he was so unbelievably cocky he decided once that instead of do aerobatic tricks he would try to ram me! bad idea, armour lock and dead...! brought a smile to my face I'll tell you!

  • 06.24.2011 3:23 PM PDT

ummm....stosh did it!!!

do offline account get blue flames


[Edited on 06.24.2011 3:27 PM PDT]

  • 06.24.2011 3:27 PM PDT