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Subject: Why did Jorge Sacrifice himself?

The bomb was already counting down when he threw off Six. Did he have to stay in radio range for Auntie Dot to activate it?

  • 06.22.2011 2:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: katamariguy
The bomb was already counting down when he threw off Six.
Nope. He had to manually detonate it.

  • 06.22.2011 2:26 AM PDT

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The timer was fried, he had to detonate it manually.

  • 06.22.2011 2:26 AM PDT

Posted by: katamariguy
The bomb was already counting down when he threw off Six.


Nope. He had to manually detonate it.


Ah. Didn't realize he was indeed activating it manually.

  • 06.22.2011 2:27 AM PDT

basically big red button saying 'in case of remote trigger failure, press red button to die...', sort of like Armageddon except that was Bruce Willis, not Jorge and the trigger was more grey in colour. wonder if Bruce Willis invincibility vest was under that space suit?

  • 06.22.2011 4:19 AM PDT

READ IT.

I won the Star. With this on Week 18.

He thought he was saving Reach.

  • 06.22.2011 4:43 AM PDT

Timer was fried


terrible plot device but...it is what it is.

  • 06.22.2011 5:38 AM PDT


Posted by: Alex the Awesome
He thought he was saving Reach.
That's what sucks about it. He blows up one ship thinking he saved Reach, then about 100 more ships come in right after he dies.

  • 06.22.2011 8:00 AM PDT

The timer on the "bomb" was fried, so someone had to stay behind and detonate it manually...and seeing as how there weren't any marines left, it had to be either Six or Jorge who stayed behind to detonate it. And Jorge is the obvious choice since Six is the player character and there was obviously more to the game, so they couldn't kill her off yet.

  • 06.22.2011 8:25 AM PDT


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Posted by: Alex the Awesome
He thought he was saving Reach.
That's what sucks about it. He blows up one ship thinking he saved Reach, then about 100 more ships come in right after he dies.


You could say he bought some time.

  • 06.22.2011 8:50 AM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

Posted by: DESTROYER CGT
That's what sucks about it. He blows up one ship thinking he saved Reach, then about 100 more ships come in right after he dies.

I was under the impression there was a time lapse between the Long Night of Solace's destruction and the arrival of the three fleets.

  • 06.22.2011 8:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: OrderedComa
The timer on the "bomb" was fried, so someone had to stay behind and detonate it manually...and seeing as how there weren't any marines left, it had to be either Six or Jorge who stayed behind to detonate it. And Jorge is the obvious choice since Six is the player character and there was obviously more to the game, so they couldn't kill her off yet.

But Jorge was the only character in the game who I actually gave two -blam!-s about and didn't give me a headache like the others...

Plus his actor didn't give off the impression that Jorge was a giant piece of wood like everyone else did.

  • 06.22.2011 9:02 AM PDT

Deal with it.


Posted by: DorkLord54

Posted by: OrderedComa
The timer on the "bomb" was fried, so someone had to stay behind and detonate it manually...and seeing as how there weren't any marines left, it had to be either Six or Jorge who stayed behind to detonate it. And Jorge is the obvious choice since Six is the player character and there was obviously more to the game, so they couldn't kill her off yet.

But Jorge was the only character in the game who I actually gave two -blam!-s about and didn't give me a headache like the others...

Plus his actor didn't give off the impression that Jorge was a giant piece of wood like everyone else did.



I feel the same way about Jorge, but i try not to analyze Halo: Reach too much... I mean half the stuff in the game doesn't even make sense.

My theory is that Halo: Reach was made by people who never played halo.

  • 06.22.2011 9:31 AM PDT

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

Posted by: wonderbreadd
I feel the same way about Jorge, but i try not to analyze Halo: Reach too much... I mean half the stuff in the game doesn't even make sense.

My theory is that Halo: Reach was made by people who never played halo.
Halo Reach is nothing but ONI propaganda.

  • 06.22.2011 9:32 AM PDT

Adepto In Meus Campester
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
You were totally and absolutely correct in every way, I don't know why we were arguing, you're so amazing I should never have doubted you.

I like how the dozens of far more expendable Marines suddenly disappear when the cutscene starts.

No, that's not nitpicking, that's a damned big plothole.

Also Megamuffin is correct. Since we, as fans, cannot officially declare Reach non-canon, we'll have to accept the theory that voids everything that happened in this game's campaign.

[Edited on 06.22.2011 10:20 AM PDT]

  • 06.22.2011 10:19 AM PDT
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Time to get a drink and watch the world burn. Or deal with it.

The timer was damaged, and listen to his lines. "Reach has been good to me, It's time to return the favor." Now that may be wrong, the Long Night of Solace is a level I don't play much, but he thought that through his death he would save Reach. He had no idea how wrong he, and everybody else, was.

  • 06.22.2011 10:21 AM PDT
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BLAM!


Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Posted by: wonderbreadd
I feel the same way about Jorge, but i try not to analyze Halo: Reach too much... I mean half the stuff in the game doesn't even make sense.

My theory is that Halo: Reach was made by people who never played halo.
Halo Reach is nothing but ONI propaganda.


now THAT is a f'n interesting concept! Never considered that before! Kinda blew my mind, not going to lie.

  • 06.22.2011 10:27 AM PDT


Posted by: Lord Slade
I like how the dozens of far more expendable Marines suddenly disappear when the cutscene starts.

No, that's not nitpicking, that's a damned big plothole.

Also Megamuffin is correct. Since we, as fans, cannot officially declare Reach non-canon, we'll have to accept the theory that voids everything that happened in this game's campaign.


And what makes you think they would have survived to reach that point? Every time I've played on the higher difficulties of gameplay (which is what everyone agrees is the most accurate to canon) if any marines reach the end of the LNoS level it's by pure, dumb luck. I know in the books and the way plasma damage and the like is portrayed in them that the mariens would have no chance of survival.

And it's happened in every single other Halo game when you take marines with you on a mission, none of them survive the whole thing on the higher difficulties.

Megamuffin's theory is just plain full of holes and is not even a good attempt to try and rationalize why Reach can't be true. And it has no evidence to back it up whatsoever.

  • 06.22.2011 2:51 PM PDT

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It gets weirder if any of your Marine backups survive to the end, as one of them would surely do it rather than let a Spartan die doing it. Loose ends like that just annoy me.

  • 06.22.2011 4:34 PM PDT
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Yep....

He's part of what is known as the cliche sacrificial group of tough guys who constantly spam science fiction media.

  • 06.22.2011 4:44 PM PDT

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Why couldnt a marine just do it?

  • 06.22.2011 7:02 PM PDT

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

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Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Posted by: wonderbreadd
I feel the same way about Jorge, but i try not to analyze Halo: Reach too much... I mean half the stuff in the game doesn't even make sense.

My theory is that Halo: Reach was made by people who never played halo.
Halo Reach is nothing but ONI propaganda.


now THAT is a f'n interesting concept! Never considered that before! Kinda blew my mind, not going to lie.
I'm debating making a huge thread on this.

  • 06.22.2011 7:03 PM PDT
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By sharp and flame; a friend of a friend.

No, the timer was fried and he had to manually detonate it.
Plus I think he was depressed becuase he thought Dr. Halsey had been killed, she was like a mom to him.

  • 06.22.2011 7:09 PM PDT

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