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i was wondering how did the covenant have a hard time fighting them if they were just worms

  • 06.22.2011 3:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

becuase they could form up into forms (such as a hunter) not to mention the were on the same technological level as the UNSC before being assimilated (which says something).

  • 06.22.2011 3:40 AM PDT

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Some of them also ate into some Forerunner artifacts. Which they cited was very difficult to purge them out of without damaging any of it.

  • 06.22.2011 3:48 AM PDT

"Defiant Reclaimer, he who will shatter the land and break the sky apart..."

The covenant were unable to defeat them in physical-battlefield combat and so resorted to orbital bombardment to make them surrender.

  • 06.22.2011 4:08 AM PDT
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Step one: Boot up Firefight.
Step two: Set up all waves to be Hunters only.
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  • 06.22.2011 4:17 AM PDT

"What they don't knw Can't hurt Them

Before joining the covenant they could form into the bigass walking tank things.

  • 06.22.2011 5:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: SparD
The covenant were unable to defeat them in physical-battlefield combat and so resorted to orbital bombardment to make them surrender.


They couldn't resort to actually commit to orbital bombardment (and even had they it didn't work) because their homes were made inside Forerunner relics among other logistical issues that made fighting them conventionally, impractical. The Lekgolo did not surrender to the Covenant from such tactics. To quote:
Contact Harvest, Page 270.
" [The San'Shyuum] ordered the Sangheili to eradicate the worms. But the Sangheili were ill-equipped to fight creatures that had no ships or soldiers to speak of and whose fortifications were the very things they were trying to save. In the end, a particularly insightful Sangheili commander-one off the species' revered Arbiters-suggested it might be better to 'tame' the Lekgolo and put their habits to good use."

The event in retrospect would be named "The Taming of the Hunters", and the concept in of itself would suggest that conventional combat (in this case orbital bombardment) indeed did not work nor was it the viable solution to end the conflict based on this passage.

Now out of curiosity I wondered where the concept of orbital bombardment specifically came from as it was not mentioned in Contact Harvest itself, and from looking at the various halo wikis they list the Halo Encyclopedia as their source. Though reports seem to list either page 114 or 141. Because of that, and the fact that all the Halo wikis have at some point put up assumptions as fact then slapped on a citation that deals with a related topic rather than justifying that assumption, I would like to ask that for those who posses the Halo Encyclopedia to check up on the source and quote the exact passage that validates the claim that orbital bombardments were the cause for the Hunters to surrender to the Covenant.

  • 06.22.2011 7:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Halo Encyclopedia to check up on the source and quote the exact passage that validates the claim that orbital bombardments were the cause for the Hunters to surrender to the Covenant.


i vaguely remember this being talked about in the limited halo 2 edition disc.

  • 06.22.2011 7:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Halo Encyclopedia to check up on the source and quote the exact passage that validates the claim that orbital bombardments were the cause for the Hunters to surrender to the Covenant.


i vaguely remember this being talked about in the limited halo 2 edition disc.


I doubt it as there wasn't anything as far as I can personally recall on the limited edition Halo 2 disc that had to do with actual canon of the races. Just a laser intense focus on how much stuff they cut, loads of pressure when it came to crunch, and how the E3 demo was sadly a lie and despite being awesome was ironically a waste of development time towards the actual game.

In any case, the various wikis all cite varying pages (hell one actually listed it as "???") of the Halo Encyclopedia, so what I seek mainly is the validity of the source in question since that is where the particular statement of orbital bombardments seems to be coming from rather than any other source.

  • 06.22.2011 7:35 AM PDT

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Hunters are my favorite enemy specie. I wish they'd make some story about them or something. They're so mysterious and interesting.

  • 06.22.2011 8:07 AM PDT

Am I supposed to write something funny here?


Posted by: jckinter06
Before joining the covenant they could form into the bigass walking tank things.

They do the same thing in Covenant, only with armor plating and being called scarabs.

  • 06.22.2011 9:59 AM PDT
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Time to get a drink and watch the world burn. Or deal with it.

And the Cheif killed one with a rusty spork. I am serious, a marine said that in Halo 3 when I traded his RPG for a shotty.

[Edited on 06.22.2011 10:06 AM PDT]

  • 06.22.2011 10:06 AM PDT

"Defiant Reclaimer, he who will shatter the land and break the sky apart..."

"The Covenant was forced to rely on orbital bombardment, a strategy against which the Mgalekgolo had little to no defense. Thus, to save themselves from extinction, their only choice was to agree to join the Covenant..."
-Dunno how valid that is (http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Hunters

You probably know more than I on this particular subject, was just wondering though if the Covenant couldn't defeat the Mgalekgolo without conventional warfare methods how did they 'tame' the Hunters?
Regaurdless the information you wanted is halfway through paragraph one of 'Background'.

Once again my knowledge of hunters is limited...

  • 06.22.2011 11:58 AM PDT


Posted by: Gamer Whale

Posted by: jckinter06
Before joining the covenant they could form into the bigass walking tank things.

They do the same thing in Covenant, only with armor plating and being called scarabs.


hell no

  • 06.22.2011 12:04 PM PDT

Am I supposed to write something funny here?


Posted by: raindoc

Posted by: Gamer Whale

Posted by: jckinter06
Before joining the covenant they could form into the bigass walking tank things.

They do the same thing in Covenant, only with armor plating and being called scarabs.


hell no

What? Are you calling this BS or saying "awesome"? (My english ain't that good)

[Edited on 06.22.2011 1:00 PM PDT]

  • 06.22.2011 12:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: SparD
"The Covenant was forced to rely on orbital bombardment, a strategy against which the Mgalekgolo had little to no defense. Thus, to save themselves from extinction, their only choice was to agree to join the Covenant..."
-Dunno how valid that is (http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Hunters


Would love for someone with the Halo Encyclopedia to quote that directly with a page number because the wikis seems to directly contradict Contact Harvest's brief passage which clearly explained that the Elites were "ill equipped" to resort to tactics such as orbital bombardment because that would mean destroying the Lekgolo fortifications, which in turn was made of up of Forerunner relics, materials, etc, which, in turn meant they couldn't because they would risk destroying those artifacts should they commit to the choice. Hence why the Arbiter's suggestion of taming the Hunters come in as a viable alternative to their normal means of conducting warfare. So it's puzzling that the encyclopedia would write up and establish something drastically (relatively speaking) different from what was established.

Of course, there was also the controversy of the Halo Encyclopedia supposedly copy and pasting Halo wiki articles, and with their extremely reliable posts I wouldn't be surprised if things turned out as they did as the result of copy and pasting the usually assumptions that were spread across the wiki. More so than usual back then...

In any case it would be nice if the passage and page number can be put up somewhere down the line by a reliable member since the Halo wikis can't seem to get their own sources straight.

  • 06.22.2011 1:03 PM PDT


Posted by: Gamer Whale

What? Are you calling this BS or saying "awesome"? (My english ain't that good)


to be honest: i meant both ;)
i remembered the scarabs being some sort of mining platform that got modified for combat use.
however, i just read the halopedia article and it says that the scarabs in h3 (not h2) were piloted (and piloted only) by worms.

  • 06.22.2011 1:04 PM PDT