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Subject: The Ultimate Reasons Why Halo 1 > Halo 2 In Terms of Skill Required
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By the way, I know I'm extremely late on this (Sorry, been celebrating) but Ghost Recon was made a year after Halo was. It even modeled its controls a bit after Halo. Splinter Cell isn't really a good comparison. Its a third person spy game, not a First Person Shooter with competitive multiplayer.

You were saying games of its time and even tried to say Counter-Strike didn't count due to (You thought) it coming out after Halo did. Therefore, you can't turn around and use a game that came out later as an example.

[Edited on 06.24.2011 9:26 AM PDT]

  • 06.24.2011 9:17 AM PDT

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Hey, I'm TetriS/r4v3n/Ryx. I've been modding Halo 1 pc since late 2008-2009, and playing Halo 2 Vista since summer of 2010. If you need any help with Halo 1 modding, just ask; I haven't modded in a while but I remember most of it.

I'm always up for a h2v game; message i4Ni TetriS and I'll get back to you.

My favorite part of the OP's post was when he -blam!-es about h2v having worse netcode than ce.

  • 06.25.2011 10:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: TetriS fer dayz
My favorite part of the OP's post was when he -blam!-es about h2v having worse netcode than ce.
Lol

  • 06.25.2011 11:01 PM PDT

Now if only the newer Halo games could be just as good. But no, console kiddies need their melee lunge, buffed-up auto-aim and bullet magnetism.

  • 06.25.2011 11:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: HAAH WAAW
Now if only the newer Halo games could be just as good. But no, console kiddies need their melee lunge, buffed-up auto-aim and bullet magnetism.


The last day you played halo 3 was like 4 days ago. And you're not a 50 yet.

And you played Reach today...if you like the newer games then why are you bashing them?
>.>

[Edited on 06.26.2011 11:16 AM PDT]

  • 06.26.2011 11:14 AM PDT

Posted by: Ben2974

Posted by: HAAH WAAW
Now if only the newer Halo games could be just as good. But no, console kiddies need their melee lunge, buffed-up auto-aim and bullet magnetism.


The last day you played halo 3 was like 4 days ago. And you're not a 50 yet.

And you played Reach today...if you like the newer games then why are you bashing them?
>.>

ben has a point, be honest.

  • 06.26.2011 2:59 PM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

There's nothing wrong with preferring the newer titles over the worst game in the series.

  • 06.26.2011 3:45 PM PDT

but, if you look, he said NEWER not halo 2.

  • 06.26.2011 4:13 PM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Essentially, I'm disagreeing with both of them.

  • 06.26.2011 4:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: Ben2974

Posted by: HAAH WAAW
Now if only the newer Halo games could be just as good. But no, console kiddies need their melee lunge, buffed-up auto-aim and bullet magnetism.


The last day you played halo 3 was like 4 days ago. And you're not a 50 yet.

And you played Reach today...if you like the newer games then why are you bashing them?
>.>


Not being 50 doesn't magically invalidate his opinion; some just don't enjoy ranked games. This sort of attitude is why they removed levels.

I switched from ranked to casual games after hitting 40 in a few days (the timeline on the site seems incorrect for whatever reason) after I grew tired of player attitudes and caring more about winning at any cost than just having fun. I played the vast majority of my Halo 3 and Reach games as a guest on another account where I didn't need to worry or care about losing.

I enjoy competitve gaming but I draw the line when it stops being fun and becomes a chore.

[Edited on 06.26.2011 4:47 PM PDT]

  • 06.26.2011 4:40 PM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Not to mention being a 50 in H3 is hardly worthy of respect to begin with.

  • 06.26.2011 4:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: DusK
Not to mention being a 50 in H3 is hardly worthy of respect to begin with.


Indeed. Being 50 doesn't automatically make you better than somebody lower.

Don't worry, I didn't miss your actual point. ;)

[Edited on 06.26.2011 4:50 PM PDT]

  • 06.26.2011 4:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: Btcc22

Posted by: DusK
Not to mention being a 50 in H3 is hardly worthy of respect to begin with.


Indeed. Being 50 doesn't automatically make you better than somebody lower.

Don't worry, I didn't miss your actual point. ;)


ok

  • 06.26.2011 9:04 PM PDT

Bring Back Rocket Race!!!


Posted by: HAAH WAAW
Now if only the newer Halo games could be just as good. But no, console kiddies need their melee lunge, buffed-up auto-aim and bullet magnetism.


I don't think it really makes too much of a difference. Besides, if it's really that big of a deal to you, why not go play Call of Duty then? You can freely disable any aim assist in that game and there's no bullet magnetism from what I can tell. As for melee lunges, well, Black Ops has reduced melee lunge and I believe Modern Warfare 3 will also have reduced lunge.

So there you go, the solution to all your problems.

And in the end, it's all a matter of preference. Some people prefer newer games for their own reasons. And some people prefer older games for their own reasons. Some people also prefer Halo 2 Vista for certain reasons as well. It's all a matter of taste and preference.

  • 06.27.2011 12:47 AM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Of course you don't think noobification would make much of a difference. You've obviously never played a skill-based FPS game in your life.

And you're wrong about CoD. It's got pretty hardcore vector correction.

You're right about it being preference, though. Most PC gamers prefer games that actually take skill. And for those that suck at FPS, Halo 2 Vista's right there to pat them on the back.

  • 06.27.2011 1:31 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ben2974
ok


Glad to see you've seen your error.

  • 06.27.2011 4:05 AM PDT

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Posted by: Btcc22

Posted by: Ben2974
ok


Glad to see you've seen your error.


Was saying "ok" to the "I didn't miss your point" statement. You were wrong when you said being a 50 doesn't magically invalidate his opinion because he implied that the newer Halos were nooby and lacked skill (because of the aim assist and lunge, etc) to excel in, yet he doesn't have a 50.

And besides, your story for quitting at level 40 doesn't have the same value for any one else. In fact, good for you for paying attention to peoples' attitudes on live. The excuse you gave doesn't prove you had the qualifications to reach level 50 anyways.

The hardest levels are from 45-50.

  • 06.27.2011 8:09 AM PDT
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That statement was in response to Dusk.

I can't say I care whether you think I could reach 50 or not. I've beaten plenty of them and inversely been beaten by many of them. It means nothing.

Dusk isn't a 50 either yet he still beat you in a game that takes far more skill. My Reach stats seem to be significantly better than yours. It took you close to three years to get to 50. Should I invalidate your opinion though? Nope.


Posted by: Wilis_kid
And I can relate to Btcc22, i stopped bothering with ranked games early on when they were all filled with host booters and other network manipulation which seems to be common with anyone who was between 40-50 anyway.


Pretty much.

[Edited on 06.27.2011 8:51 AM PDT]

  • 06.27.2011 8:19 AM PDT


Posted by: Ben2974

Posted by: Btcc22

Posted by: Ben2974
ok


Glad to see you've seen your error.


Was saying "ok" to the "I didn't miss your point" statement. You were wrong when you said being a 50 doesn't magically invalidate his opinion because he implied that the newer Halos were nooby and lacked skill (because of the aim assist and lunge, etc) to excel in, yet he doesn't have a 50.

And besides, your story for quitting at level 40 doesn't have the same value for any one else. In fact, good for you for paying attention to peoples' attitudes on live. The excuse you gave doesn't prove you had the qualifications to reach level 50 anyways.

The hardest levels are from 45-50.

Just because he doesn't have a 50 doesn't mean he lacks skill or the 'qualifications' to be one. Tell me, what 'qualifications' do I need to be a 50 in a video game? I'll be sure to study them... And I can relate to Btcc22, i stopped bothering with ranked games early on when they were all filled with host booters and other network manipulation which seems to be common with anyone who was between 40-50 anyway.

  • 06.27.2011 8:20 AM PDT
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I don't really care about rank at all. In fact, I try to stay away from it as much as possible. I got my 41 in SWAT just because I like SWAT with BRs from time to time instead of SWAT with DMRs. Point being, if Halo 3 were still in its prime and I actually cared, I could most definitely get a 50 in Halo 3. I would just have to practice a good bit and care a bit more. I mean, I did beat 50s a few good times, too.

I enjoy playing on Social Playlists due to the fact I love the casual gameplay. There's absolutely no stress involved by most of the people there. It's all about relaxing and having fun on the game Bungie made for us. Nothing against competitive gameplay, I'm just not the type for it :P

[Edited on 06.27.2011 8:44 AM PDT]

  • 06.27.2011 8:39 AM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: Btcc22
I can't say I care whether you think I could reach 50 or not. I've beaten plenty of them and inversely been beaten by many of them. It means nothing.

This. I lost count of the 50s I beat within my first month of playing Halo 3. Rank in Halo 3 means nothing.

  • 06.27.2011 9:43 AM PDT

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Just because he doesn't have a 50 doesn't mean he lacks skill or the 'qualifications' to be one.

True, but it doesn't mean he has them either. It wouldn't be logical to say that he/she (I am speaking about all players here) has the skill to be a 50 just because he/she reached level 40. Get it?

Too bad the leveling system was too easily manipulated and cheated with. Took me nearly 3 years to get my 50s, and they were well earned to say the least. 1.5 years into the game and you would see fake 50s looming all over matchmaking....so it's no surprise to beat some 50s easily In H3.

  • 06.27.2011 11:25 AM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: Ben2974
Just because he doesn't have a 50 doesn't mean he lacks skill or the 'qualifications' to be one.

True, but it doesn't mean he has them either.

Well, so far, you've told us that you got your 50 legit. And we've already established that you're terrible at FPS compared to me. You can figure out the rest. Bottom line is that a 50 is meaningless regardless of how you got it. I know you'd like to think that a 50, even a legit one, makes you a good FPS player, but it really doesn't.

  • 06.27.2011 11:31 AM PDT

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It makes me a good Halo 3 player; nothing else can be extracted from that. As far as my experience with you goes, all I know for sure is that you're better than me in Combat Evolved. Reread the last couple of pages and you will learn that all fps games take skill in order to be on top.

Side note:

No one can be the best at FPS. That would mean you dominate others in every single first person shooter in the industry, on all platforms (since some are exclusive...like H3). Someone who dominates in Counter Strike, Battlefield, COD, or some other fps cannot label himself as superior to another in some other game played by both (unless proven in a duel or something).

  • 06.27.2011 11:56 AM PDT

so what we have gotten from this discussion is that, halo 3 is halo 3, halo 2 sucked and that i am awesome. topic closed?

  • 06.27.2011 12:35 PM PDT