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Subject: I declare Halo: Reach Non-Canon. Don't agree? Get over it.

The invasion of Reach was severely downplayed. I saw no Mac Guns in orbit above Reach, and barely any UNSC ships. When Jorge sacrificed himself (Didn't make sense to when there were marines.) to take down a Covenant Supercarrier, (Which by the way a ship that size would not last long above Reach because of all the ships and SMACS that SHOULD be present.) There were like 5 more Covenant ships that came out of slipspace. I'm sorry but... The battle of Anchor 9 was so quiet. There should have been hundrens of different Covenant vessels, and there were not.

Reach is the Hub of the UNSC. And the fact that it was poorly defended in the game by a few frigates, a handful of Sabres, and one Halcyon, (WHICH SHOULD NOT BE ON THE GROUND.) was pathetic. Reach is not Harvest. Reach should have been heavily defended by hundreds of UNSC ships of all different classes, and SUPER MACS.

Nothing in this game fits. You can argue all you want about Blah Blah Blah game is automatically canon. I don't really care.

But what you can't argue with me is that the book was way more epic than the game. AND it made more sense.

  • 06.22.2011 8:37 PM PDT

I DECLARE EVERY FANFIC EVER CREATED CANON, that's not how it works bro

  • 06.22.2011 9:01 PM PDT
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I agree. It was pretty non-canon. I still loved it tho, non-canoness aside. Even as a seperate non-halo game all together it would have been great. Although there is the whole time traveling crystal argument, blah blah blah. Also, how Cortana was found in the forunner structure under Reach and all. Alot of non-canon. But w/e. I don't mind. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and have the right to express it.

  • 06.22.2011 9:01 PM PDT

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Campaign should have been longer. Would have given them more.. Space.

  • 06.22.2011 9:02 PM PDT

I had always assumed that the stealth pylons jammed UNSC sensors and emitted radiation to conceal it from air while the spire visually hid it and the highly advanced strike team they sent ahead to recover artifacts and/or assess how much of a fight the humans would put up. When they destroyed the spire the super carrier was revealed very close to orbit, too close to be shot down by one of the SMAC's.

Although I don't know why they didn't just send all of the ships on Reach to attack it, which, would have made short work of it. Maybe it was the point of UPPERCUT to reduce the amount of UNSC ships destroyed.Then on the 30th the Reach we all know and love occurred

  • 06.22.2011 9:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: JesseJH
The invasion of Reach was severely downplayed. I saw no Mac Guns in orbit above Reach, and barely any UNSC ships. When Jorge sacrificed himself (Didn't make sense to when there were marines.) to take down a Covenant Supercarrier, (Which by the way a ship that size would not last long above Reach because of all the ships and SMACS that SHOULD be present.) There were like 5 more Covenant ships that came out of slipspace. I'm sorry but... The battle of Anchor 9 was so quiet. There should have been hundrens of different Covenant vessels, and there were not.

Reach is the Hub of the UNSC. And the fact that it was poorly defended in the game by a few frigates, a handful of Sabres, and one Halcyon, (WHICH SHOULD NOT BE ON THE GROUND.) was pathetic. Reach is not Harvest. Reach should have been heavily defended by hundreds of UNSC ships of all different classes, and SUPER MACS.

Nothing in this game fits. You can argue all you want about Blah Blah Blah game is automatically canon. I don't really care.

But what you can't argue with me is that the book was way more epic than the game. AND it made more sense.


1. Do you have any idea how huge a planet is? And do you know how small MAC stations are compared to a planet? Just because you didn't see the MAC stations doesn't mean they weren't in orbit, like 50 miles away or so. Also the Super Carrier could have easily destroyed any MAC station near it. This would explain the lack of MAC stations in the area. A small strike force would easily be undetected by the Super Carrier, the Frigate was just a distraction.

2. The ARMY guys died on the Corvette. Jorge was the only one left. If you're playing the game on Legendary, which is most likely what the books are on, then your ARMY guys are gonna die.

3. The Anchor 9 situation was a small skirmish. That's why Phantom gunboats were sent in, most likely boarding craft. Also take into account the possible 100 Banshee/Seraphs that attacked the station.



  • 06.22.2011 9:22 PM PDT


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Posted by: JesseJH
The invasion of Reach was severely downplayed. I saw no Mac Guns in orbit above Reach, and barely any UNSC ships. When Jorge sacrificed himself (Didn't make sense to when there were marines.) to take down a Covenant Supercarrier, (Which by the way a ship that size would not last long above Reach because of all the ships and SMACS that SHOULD be present.) There were like 5 more Covenant ships that came out of slipspace. I'm sorry but... The battle of Anchor 9 was so quiet. There should have been hundrens of different Covenant vessels, and there were not.

Reach is the Hub of the UNSC. And the fact that it was poorly defended in the game by a few frigates, a handful of Sabres, and one Halcyon, (WHICH SHOULD NOT BE ON THE GROUND.) was pathetic. Reach is not Harvest. Reach should have been heavily defended by hundreds of UNSC ships of all different classes, and SUPER MACS.

Nothing in this game fits. You can argue all you want about Blah Blah Blah
game is automatically canon. I don't really care.

But what you can't argue with me is that the book was way more epic than the game. AND it made more sense.


1. Do you have any idea how huge a planet is? And do you know how small MAC stations are compared to a planet? Just because you didn't see the MAC stations doesn't mean they weren't in orbit, like 50 miles away or so. Also the Super Carrier could have easily destroyed any MAC station near it. This would explain the lack of MAC stations in the area. A small strike force would easily be undetected by the Super Carrier, the Frigate was just a distraction.

2. The ARMY guys died on the Corvette. Jorge was the only one left. If you're playing the game on Legendary, which is most likely what the books are on, then your ARMY guys are gonna die.

3. The Anchor 9 situation was a small skirmish. That's why Phantom gunboats were sent in, most likely boarding craft. Also take into account the possible 100 Banshee/Seraphs that attacked the station.







Actually I read somewhere that the troopers who board the corvette are UNSC Air Force commandoes

  • 06.22.2011 9:35 PM PDT

"That's about all that can be said for plots, which anyway are just one thing after another, a what and a what and a what.

Now try how and why."

I declare you to be nonexistent. Don't agree? Get over it.

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  • 06.22.2011 10:16 PM PDT

Uh-oh, OP. The Halo: Reach Defense Force is going to eat you alive.

  • 06.22.2011 10:25 PM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

Oh, you declare do you? And who are you, but another pisant disgruntled fanboy? No one, that's who. You don't get to decide what is or is not official canon. You can have your opinions, but it doesn't make it official, Troll.
Posted by: JesseJH
But what you can't argue with me is that the book was way more epic than the game. AND it made more sense.

Really? I laughed, so hard. A couple chapters was epic? No, it was lame and underplayed to a degree. An entire fortress world falling in a matter of hours? It isn't Arcadia, here...

[Edited on 06.22.2011 10:29 PM PDT]

  • 06.22.2011 10:25 PM PDT

Declare it, but in the Halo Bible, it says otherwise, don't agree? Get out.

  • 06.22.2011 10:33 PM PDT

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Uh-oh, OP. The Halo: Reach Defense Force is going to eat you alive.

The Halo: Reach Defence Force at your service!

We're frustrated and we're hungry... this ain't gonna end well.

>:o

  • 06.22.2011 10:34 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

It makes more sense that the most guarded planet in UNSC controlled space to fall in a month than a mere 3-4 hours, even a The Fall of Reach defender mentioned how a Spirit at full speed takes a good 7 hours to go from pole to equator, in the book, drop ships were deployed on the pole and then scattered around the planet to take out the generators and as my friend DaeFaron said in other threads, how come the UNSC Air Forces didn't do anything to stop said Spirits?

  • 06.22.2011 10:44 PM PDT
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I declare you a troll. Don't agree? Get over it.

  • 06.22.2011 11:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: JesseJH
Nothing in this game fits. You can argue all you want about Blah Blah Blah game is automatically canon. I don't really care.
"Get over it".

  • 06.23.2011 12:30 AM PDT

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Canon wise, it might not have been 100% correct, but I still loved it for the most part.

  • 06.23.2011 12:51 AM PDT

i declare this thread is now about chili.

discuss.

  • 06.23.2011 1:01 AM PDT

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Whos disagreeing?

  • 06.23.2011 2:41 AM PDT

"I'm sorry man, I don't even know why I got in on this side... SHOTGUN!!!"

OP: Get over it. Your opinion is not fact, Halo: Reach is canon. Now stop ranting and go back to your bridge on the Waaaambulance.


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i declare this thread is now about chili.

discuss.

Get some nice cilantro and cheese to add to the flavor, youknowwhatimsayin?

  • 06.23.2011 6:21 AM PDT

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Posted by: JesseJH
There should have been hundrens of different Covenant vessels, and there were not.
The covenant under-estimated the humans. Why use a shotgun on a fly when you could just hit it?

  • 06.23.2011 6:35 AM PDT

Vengeance only leads to an ongoing cycle of hatred.

I agree with the OP.

  • 06.23.2011 8:24 AM PDT

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That's right.

Agreed. Basing the campaign on the book would have been more awesome, so that´s another weird thing.

  • 06.23.2011 8:32 AM PDT

question everything...truth has no pedigree

I was wondering who actually decides what is canon.

I thought it might be Bungie, but now I know it's JesseJH.

Thanks for clearing that up.

  • 06.23.2011 8:34 AM PDT

Oh OP, you know you can't reason with the Halo:Reach chumps.

Bungie could have made the main character a dinosaur and they still wouldn't see the difference.

  • 06.23.2011 8:50 AM PDT