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Subject: Would you support selective membership if Bungie gets a new site?
Poll: Would you support selective membership if Bungie gets a new site?  [closed]
Yes:  21%
(7 Votes)
No:  79%
(27 Votes)
Total Votes: 34

If Aerospace is Bungie's new home on the web (or even if it's not and things change around here), would you guys support a system similar to Neogaf's where each individual account is reviewed and approved/rejected manually? This can mean very long wait times (several months to a year) but it can have its benefits (beyond the obvious).

How would you guys feel if we all had to 'apply' to the new site (if there was one)? None of us would have immediate access and would be in a read-only mode until someone from the web team activated our account.

Perhaps one forum that you couldn't post in unless you were approved at that level? Everyone could read but only those approved by the web team could post in it.

Thoughts?


Ok perhaps I could start outlining a little more of what I'm proposing we discuss:

New Member (Instant account activation upon registation)
What's available:

- Game Stats
- Private Groups
- General Forum (read, post, create threads)
- General Game Forum (read, post, create threads)
- In-game related features (nameplates, unlocks, etc..)
- PM's
- Can only link to pages within the site (and a select few external, related sites)
- Pre-approved avatars

Member (Approved by web team/mod's)
What's available:

- Everything that New Members have access to
- Select Forums (only approved members, employees, mods have access to - read, post, create new threads)
--- Much more likely to discuss things with employees (see: HaloGaf)
- Ability to link anywhere
- Access to upload personal avatars

Remember, new members would be able to read ALL forums (excluding private groups, assuming we have them) and could still access stats and game-related content.

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[Edited on 06.26.2011 8:22 PM PDT]

  • 06.26.2011 7:33 PM PDT

There is no benefit for a company to do that. They advertise their site for stats, nameplates and such and that would be kind of silly to not allow new members. Unprofessional if you ask me.

  • 06.26.2011 7:34 PM PDT


Posted by: Luke35120
There is no benefit for a company to do that. They advertise their site for stats, nameplates and such and that would be kind of silly to not allow new members. Unprofessional if you ask me.

Things regarding to in-game features like stats and nameplates would still obviously be available. Even in a read only mode. Or it would featured in separate part of the site that wasn't restricted like the forums were.

  • 06.26.2011 7:36 PM PDT

PEANUT-BUTTER SLAP!

Nah. The web team has better things to do.

  • 06.26.2011 7:41 PM PDT

Posted by: Homeboyd903
Posted by: Luke35120
There is no benefit for a company to do that. They advertise their site for stats, nameplates and such and that would be kind of silly to not allow new members. Unprofessional if you ask me.

Things regarding to in-game features like stats and nameplates would still obviously be available. Even in a read only mode. Or it would featured in separate part of the site that wasn't restricted like the forums were.
How? They are for members of Bungie's website.

  • 06.26.2011 7:43 PM PDT

Nah, there's got to be some place where run of the mill people can ask questions.

  • 06.26.2011 7:45 PM PDT


Posted by: Luke35120
Posted by: Homeboyd903
Posted by: Luke35120
There is no benefit for a company to do that. They advertise their site for stats, nameplates and such and that would be kind of silly to not allow new members. Unprofessional if you ask me.

Things regarding to in-game features like stats and nameplates would still obviously be available. Even in a read only mode. Or it would featured in separate part of the site that wasn't restricted like the forums were.
How? They are for members of Bungie's website.

Now. There are certainly options for different levels of access to the site. Immediate account activation for members looking to view stats/change in-game features and a separate level for forums... you avoid the majority of people who come to the site to troll, spam, link to shock-sites, etc.. Of course a 'general' forum could always be available for new members.

Not pro or anti either way yet, just curious as to what your thoughts are.

Edit: Hylebos, read above.

[Edited on 06.26.2011 7:46 PM PDT]

  • 06.26.2011 7:46 PM PDT

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Remember that the primary function of this website is to have a centralized place to discuss Bungie games. Telling people that they can't join or making them wait a year to join is counterproductive and will turn people off to Bungie.

Besides, allowing everyone who wants to to join is how we get a nice, diverse community.

Finally, there have been over ten million accounts created. Should Bungie really have to review all of them?

  • 06.26.2011 7:47 PM PDT

Posted by: Homeboyd903
Posted by: Luke35120
Posted by: Homeboyd903
Posted by: Luke35120
There is no benefit for a company to do that. They advertise their site for stats, nameplates and such and that would be kind of silly to not allow new members. Unprofessional if you ask me.

Things regarding to in-game features like stats and nameplates would still obviously be available. Even in a read only mode. Or it would featured in separate part of the site that wasn't restricted like the forums were.
How? They are for members of Bungie's website.

Now. There are certainly options for different levels of access to the site. Immediate account activation for members looking to view stats/change in-game features and a separate level for forums... you avoid the majority of people who come to the site to troll, spam, link to shock-sites, etc.. Of course a 'general' forum could always be available for new members.

Not pro or anti either way yet, just curious as to what your thoughts are.

Edit: Hylebos, read above.
(I completely understand your last paragraph there, I do that all the time)

I personally think it's a waste of time. I've never been a fan of separating the community because then you lose the whole community vibe.

  • 06.26.2011 7:48 PM PDT


Posted by: CTN 0452 9
Remember that the primary function of this website is to have a centralized place to discuss Bungie games. Telling people that they can't join or making them wait a year to join is counterproductive and will turn people off to Bungie.

Besides, allowing everyone who wants to to join is how we get a nice, diverse community.

Finally, there have been over ten million accounts created. Should Bungie really have to review all of them?

Read my latest post.

As to the # of accounts... how many of those were created to view their stats only and have never even attempted to post in the forums? How many belong to the same members (alts)? How many are still active? One step at a time.. obviously they couldn't start reviewing 10 million accounts at the same time. And again, there could still be an offering to new members to post and be active in...

  • 06.26.2011 7:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: Homeboyd903

Posted by: CTN 0452 9
Remember that the primary function of this website is to have a centralized place to discuss Bungie games. Telling people that they can't join or making them wait a year to join is counterproductive and will turn people off to Bungie.

Besides, allowing everyone who wants to to join is how we get a nice, diverse community.

Finally, there have been over ten million accounts created. Should Bungie really have to review all of them?

Read my latest post.

As to the # of accounts... how many of those were created to view their stats only and have never even attempted to post in the forums? How many belong to the same members (alts)? How many are still active? One step at a time.. obviously they couldn't start reviewing 10 million accounts at the same time. And again, there could still be an offering to new members to post and be active in...

What your are advocating for is basically just making Bungie.net a private group. People won't like being left out of the club, and long waits will turn people off to Bungie, and in turn their games.

Private groups are the place to go for selective membership. The main forums are and should always be for everyone who wants to join and discuss Bungie and its games.

  • 06.26.2011 7:56 PM PDT

Posted by: CTN 0452 9
What your are advocating for..

Nonono.. just a topic for discussion. Im not advocating anything. I know most will be against the idea, so for the sake of discussion, I'll argue the other side (even though I understand most complaints so far). Several people have missed the statement about having a general forum available to everyone (for questions, general discussion) but in order to access other forums (that everyone would be able to read - which makes it different than private groups), you would have to be approved. This will make it more likely to see Bungie employees post and discuss things out in the open.. you see what happens when they do it now.

  • 06.26.2011 8:01 PM PDT

Selective membership is like selective punching, unfair.
Also, Bungie loves everyone so much that they would never decline a member.That makes it sound like an uneffective membership process.

  • 06.26.2011 8:09 PM PDT

Have you seen my mind anywhere? I seem to have lost it...

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Posted by: Homeboyd903
Posted by: CTN 0452 9
What your are advocating for..

Nonono.. just a topic for discussion. Im not advocating anything. I know most will be against the idea, so for the sake of discussion, I'll argue the other side (even though I understand most complaints so far). Several people have missed the statement about having a general forum available to everyone (for questions, general discussion) but in order to access other forums (that everyone would be able to read - which makes it different than private groups), you would have to be approved. This will make it more likely to see Bungie employees post and discuss things out in the open.. you see what happens when they do it now.


Fine, a poor choice of word, but the general idea is still bad. Everyone should be able to express their views on all of the public forums, but I see your point.

  • 06.26.2011 8:09 PM PDT

(Bungie > 343i)

If that were to happen than I suppose I'd have to just deal with it. I don't see it happening though.

  • 06.26.2011 8:17 PM PDT

Join the best group of all time Last Refuge!

Posted by: KidWitPotential
ya know, im proud to be an inverted player, its like we're a rare breed or something


Do NOT send me Recruitment Letters, doing so will get you blocked faster than you can say "Huh?"

I'm not sure how many people there are on Bnet, but could you imagine having to sort through them all one by one? Not only that but what about game help and etc? Why should someone be denied help just because it takes the webteam forever to sort through everyone else?

  • 06.26.2011 8:20 PM PDT


Posted by: CTN 0452 9
Posted by: Homeboyd903
Posted by: CTN 0452 9
What your are advocating for..

Nonono.. just a topic for discussion. Im not advocating anything. I know most will be against the idea, so for the sake of discussion, I'll argue the other side (even though I understand most complaints so far). Several people have missed the statement about having a general forum available to everyone (for questions, general discussion) but in order to access other forums (that everyone would be able to read - which makes it different than private groups), you would have to be approved. This will make it more likely to see Bungie employees post and discuss things out in the open.. you see what happens when they do it now.


Fine, a poor choice of word, but the general idea is still bad. Everyone should be able to express their views on all of the public forums, but I see your point.
:) It's all good.. I knew what you meant.

Ok perhaps I could start outlining a little more of what I'm proposing we discuss:

New Member (Instant account activation upon registation)
What's available:

- Game Stats
- Private Groups
- General Forum (read, post, create threads)
- General Game Forum (read, post, create threads)
- In-game related features (nameplates, unlocks, etc..)
- PM's
- Can only link to pages within the site (and a select few external, related sites)

Member (Approved by web team/mod's)
What's available:

- Everything that New Members have access to
- Select Forums (only approved members, employees, mods have access to - read, post, create new threads)
--- Much more likely to discuss things with employees (see: HaloGaf)
- Ability to link anywhere
- Access to upload personal avatars

Remember, new members would be able to read ALL forums (excluding private groups, assuming we have them) and could still access stats and game-related content.

  • 06.26.2011 8:21 PM PDT


Posted by: sparten110
I'm not sure how many people there are on Bnet, but could you imagine having to sort through them all one by one? Not only that but what about game help and etc? Why should someone be denied help just because it takes the webteam forever to sort through everyone else?
Re-read the OP and posts. This was discussed already.

  • 06.26.2011 8:23 PM PDT

Have you seen my mind anywhere? I seem to have lost it...

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After reading your more detailed outline I think there may be a way that this type of thing could work. Individual approval is still a daunting task, especially since it would take time to evaluate each member.

If this was run by an automated system then it could work. Each member must stay in the newbie area (general forums outlined) for a month and 50 posts minimum. If they are warned then their month and post count is reset and if they are banned then in addition to being reset they must stay an additional month and additional 50 posts before being allowed into the general population.

This allows for some sort of probationary period for screening, but makes it more efficient so that people can join the main population without too much hassle.

I especially like the idea about limited linking privileges. B.net only and maybe a relatively safe site like youtube.

  • 06.26.2011 8:41 PM PDT

I don't personally think Bungie runs their -potatoes!- like that. I think that they are a very community-based and involved group of guys and would want to shadow anybody out of what is possible. What is given to the community is learned in a community, with the exception of HFCS- *nudges mods*

If there was a transition to a new site that would have to be made, I feel a lot of mixed emotions would come out of this Bnet community immediately. All of us internet-goers definitely are able to adapt, and most of us here in this forum are reasonable human beings, but with that being said, I am not the big man upstairs- *nudges Achronos*

  • 06.26.2011 8:45 PM PDT
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totally pointless and I don't know about the rest of you but I love swinging a hammer of logic through the reach forum; it gives me some cathartic glee.

  • 06.26.2011 8:49 PM PDT

You must not know 'bout me

Give Eros a try. It's an active Off-Topic forum where everyone feels like friends.

Feel the love

I wouldn't mind since I would know what's going on right away, but it would be a bit pointless.

  • 06.26.2011 9:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: Homeboyd903

Ok perhaps I could start outlining a little more of what I'm proposing we discuss:

New Member (Instant account activation upon registation)
What's available:

- Game Stats
- Private Groups
- General Forum (read, post, create threads)
- General Game Forum (read, post, create threads)
- In-game related features (nameplates, unlocks, etc..)
- PM's
- Can only link to pages within the site (and a select few external, related sites)

Member (Approved by web team/mod's)
What's available:

- Everything that New Members have access to
- Select Forums (only approved members, employees, mods have access to - read, post, create new threads)
--- Much more likely to discuss things with employees (see: HaloGaf)
- Ability to link anywhere
- Access to upload personal avatars.

These "Select Forums" would be completely unnecessary. If you wish to go to a forum with only people you consider "Mature", that's why we have private groups. The amount of work that would be required, mainly "Approving" members would be pointless, as I'm sure you could deal with no personal avatars.

  • 06.26.2011 9:15 PM PDT

Posted by: mike120593
"Approving" members would be pointless...

I do see the pros and cons to it... but certainly don't think it's "pointless" for the reasons I've listed above. But again, I'm not pushing for this type of system.. just looking to discuss it. Someone mentioned a more automated solution to approvals which is an option.

There is some value to a readable forum (for all members) but used by approved members which private groups don't offer.

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[Edited on 06.26.2011 9:22 PM PDT]

  • 06.26.2011 9:20 PM PDT

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Theres no way that it would make sense for any Bungie employee to start hand approving accounts.

That leaves it to be delegated to a mod or some other small, hand selected community members. Does anyone really want to do that? Thats a lot more to do for very little benefit.

  • 06.26.2011 9:22 PM PDT

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