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Subject: "ADAPT." No. Armor Lock and Sword Block are moronic.
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WAY is zo funny.

Posted by: Nihilistic
It's because I'm bad myself.
No, you're not.

  • 06.28.2011 1:21 AM PDT

Guys guys guys, seriously. I understand that no one else has ever made an AL Complaint thread and you guys are in unexplored territory, but what in god's name is a BURRITOSENIOR JUNIOR?

  • 06.28.2011 1:22 AM PDT
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There's a type of person that fails at everything, and they are known as "Reachtards". Do the world a favor and prevent them from reproducing; keeping the gene pool above Down syndrome-level is the only hope for gaming.

This thread has gone pretty far off topic, although Zekend and WAY did a good job summarizing the original point, which still stands, I might add.

  • 06.28.2011 1:23 AM PDT

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Posted by: Five seveN

Posted by: TheUseless0ne
I seriously dont get why you try to lifecheck people when

A. Youre retarded

B. You cant make a logical argument

C. You think calling people food is an insult.


The logical arguments have been made. Go back a few pages in this very thread. You were there. Logic and facts were used. All you and yours have been able to do is reiterate that you are a higher rank than me (dealt with that too) and petty insults. Calling you guys cupcake has been worth more than all your collective might has mustered.

  • 06.28.2011 1:24 AM PDT

The Arena is a terrible ranking system. This thread is a much better solution. Fix your -blam!- Bungie!

AL is bad.

  • 06.28.2011 1:26 AM PDT

-Nikki


Posted by: TheUseless0ne


You do know that you're beating a dead horse when it comes to arguing back over the internet right? It also makes your previous statements less meaningful because people start linking actions to users and thus any statement they make thereafter is looked at as a joke.

Many people, even those who have not even heard of Bungie.net scream in game about Armor Lock. It is widely unaccepted.

  • 06.28.2011 1:29 AM PDT

Wow... if al suks and u die cus of it... u suk. simple

Sword blocking... sword is overpowered... oh well

Thumbs... u may have thumbs but u dont have them hands so stfu. Thanks

I'm done

  • 06.28.2011 1:29 AM PDT

Adepto In Meus Campester
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
You were totally and absolutely correct in every way, I don't know why we were arguing, you're so amazing I should never have doubted you.

Posted by: TheUseless0ne
The logical arguments have been made. Go back a few pages in this very thread. You were there. Logic and facts were used. All you and yours have been able to do is reiterate that you are a higher rank than me (dealt with that too) and petty insults. Calling you guys cupcake has been worth more than all your collective might has mustered.
You know, a hypocritical argument is not a logical one. In addition, a higher ranked player has a more intimate knowledge of the gameplay mechanics that are being discussed here in comparison to a lower ranked and less skilled player.

Also, "cupcake" is best used as a term of endearment. Used sarcastically as an insult, it just sounds... fruity. Do yourself a favor and keep some dignity.

  • 06.28.2011 1:31 AM PDT

really? the guy using armor lock is moronic?
and what do you call a guy like you who tries to kill a guy with a sword while he is in armor lock? seriously, there is unwillingness to adapt, and then there is just...
you are on a whole new level of ignorance.
ME HAVE SWORD. ME SEE GUY. ME SLICE. OMG HE NOT DIE OMG WTF BBQ HERP DERP DEEERRRPP

  • 06.28.2011 1:33 AM PDT

Posted by: Zomechin
They are simply garbage. Nothing more.

Armor Lock is an abomination to the 'smarter combat' that AA's supposedly breed.

Look at this senselessness.


That video is ridiculous (I definitely lol'd). And anyone who believes that outcome is OK is under-qualified to have a valid opinion about anything to do with Halo game mechanics.

  • 06.28.2011 1:33 AM PDT

You are a retard if you try to bring up this account's Reach playtime.

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Posted by: TheUseless0ne
Posted by: Five seveN

Posted by: TheUseless0ne
I seriously dont get why you try to lifecheck people when

A. Youre retarded

B. You cant make a logical argument

C. You think calling people food is an insult.


The logical arguments have been made. Go back a few pages in this very thread. You were there. Logic and facts were used. All you and yours have been able to do is reiterate that you are a higher rank than me (dealt with that too) and petty insults. Calling you guys cupcake has been worth more than all your collective might has mustered.
I see you supporting making controlling powers pointless. Retarded.

I see you claiming the ranking system was a joke despite you not being able to get a 50. Retarded.

I see you desperately trying to convince people that youre not retarded by posting with multisyllabic words despite not knowing what the arguments about. Retarded.

I see you resorting to calling people food products when you have no logical argument. Retarded.

I see you still trying to pull a life check. Retarded.

  • 06.28.2011 1:35 AM PDT

-Nikki


Posted by: The Notyalc
really? the guy using armor lock is moronic?
and what do you call a guy like you who tries to kill a guy with a sword while he is in armor lock? seriously, there is unwillingness to adapt, and then there is just...
you are on a whole new level of ignorance.
ME HAVE SWORD. ME SEE GUY. ME SLICE. OMG HE NOT DIE OMG WTF BBQ HERP DERP DEEERRRPP


I am sorry but I lol'd...

  • 06.28.2011 1:36 AM PDT

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"Do not mistake your rank and number for superiority. The oldest child may learn from the youngest."

Posted by: TheUseless0ne
All this man has said in the past ten pages...


Pure gold, but I'm sure there are laws against child abuse, which is clearly going on here.

Users like you make this forum worthwhile... somewhat.

  • 06.28.2011 1:36 AM PDT

The Arena is a terrible ranking system. This thread is a much better solution. Fix your -blam!- Bungie!

Posted by: The Notyalc
really? the guy using armor lock is moronic?
and what do you call a guy like you who tries to kill a guy with a sword while he is in armor lock? seriously, there is unwillingness to adapt, and then there is just...
you are on a whole new level of ignorance.
ME HAVE SWORD. ME SEE GUY. ME SLICE. OMG HE NOT DIE OMG WTF BBQ HERP DERP DEEERRRPP
You're telling a person who is infinitely better at this game than you how to play it. Ironic.

The OP did exactly what he should've done in theory (excluding the missed lunge at the beginning and end.)

  • 06.28.2011 1:37 AM PDT

Adepto In Meus Campester
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
You were totally and absolutely correct in every way, I don't know why we were arguing, you're so amazing I should never have doubted you.

Posted by: UntamedPureWolf
Wow... if al suks and u die cus of it... u suk. simple

Sword blocking... sword is overpowered... oh well

Thumbs... u may have thumbs but u dont have them hands so stfu. Thanks

I'm done
Posted by: The Notyalc
really? the guy using armor lock is moronic?
and what do you call a guy like you who tries to kill a guy with a sword while he is in armor lock? seriously, there is unwillingness to adapt, and then there is just...
you are on a whole new level of ignorance.
ME HAVE SWORD. ME SEE GUY. ME SLICE. OMG HE NOT DIE OMG WTF BBQ HERP DERP DEEERRRPP
Oh my god, I don't think I've ever seen a pair of posts this stupid in my entire life.

FIRST OF ALL, the sword is a POWER WEAPON. Players do not SPAWN with it like Armor Lock, and instead they have to FIGHT TO CONTROL the weapon because of the benefits it offers. However, Armor Lock is so BLATANTLY OVERPOWERED that it allows users to not only use it OFF SPAWN with NO PENALTIES COST TO USE, but they can activate it when a sword user, someone who has SUCCESSFULLY FOUGHT FOR AND GAINED CONTROL OF A HIGHLY CONTESTED POWER WEAPON, is in the act of a lunge, and there is NO WAY TO COUNTER THIS APPLICATION OF ARMOR LOCK, besides simply not using the sword, which is IDIOTIC because the sword requires the player to actually FIGHT FOR IT and OBTAIN IT instead of SPAWNING WITH IT.

I made important statements in caps because you two are unprecedentedly retarded, and are quite possibly the indicators that evolution may be working backwards.

  • 06.28.2011 1:38 AM PDT

I am a penguin. Every day I boogie on down to the water, and eat fish. Once, while fishing in the deepest depths, I saw great Cthulhu... And he said to me "Shine, to thine own self be true. They can't tell you what to do once you've gone guru." Also, I should tell you, "slide".

Inventor of the Bombstache avatar!

Posted by: Nihilistic

Posted by: TheUseless0ne


You do know that you're beating a dead horse when it comes to arguing back over the internet right? It also makes your previous statements less meaningful because people start linking actions to users and thus any statement they make thereafter is looked at as a joke.

Many people, even those who have not even heard of Bungie.net scream in game about Armor Lock. It is widely unaccepted.


If so many people around the world hate it so much, why is it used as much as it is? I am fully aware that this little snippet of internet is hardly a fraction of the online population, but you'd think all these people hating it would cause it to be used less and less. Yet I can jump online right now, and I wont see many more or less players using it as I have from the getgo.

I have no problem going on and on about this; your little friends keep trying to seem to make intelligible arguments that break down to petty insults, and I find that more often than not, the only way to get such people to shut up about some point of view they only THINK they understand is to pound it into the (figuratively, of course). If they feel that they have won by some sad measurement they created, by all means, I am willing to drop this when they are; but I'm not going to just drop this because of someone's hurt false sense of superiority.

If this is the end of it, I should hope you'd inform them of why calling someone "retarded" after the person makes an actual argument make's their point a little less valid.

  • 06.28.2011 1:39 AM PDT

Death from Above !

Yes, they are abominations of Reach, sword block screwed over the sword, ( Imagine your fighting a jedi, he lunges at you. you think omg and raise your arm next second he goes wtf and you kill him with a shotgun. )

this is a HUGE problem in Infection, not only do the players start with heavies. they get to block most attacks from zombies.

Armour lock just sucks.

you can go and tap it with a ghost and you asplode. its pathetic. and yes I did purposely spell it as asplode.

it is also unfair in invasion as they spawn in tier 3 with a shotgun and the poor elites must suffer with hologram and sword, they are easily at a disadvantage when the Spartan gets the ghost/wraith/banshee

  • 06.28.2011 1:41 AM PDT
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Zomechin sucks.

Posted by: UntamedPureWolf
Wow... if al suks and u die cus of it... u suk. simple

Sword blocking... sword is overpowered... oh well

Thumbs... u may have thumbs but u dont have them hands so stfu. Thanks

I'm done
/missing one of me

  • 06.28.2011 1:42 AM PDT

Adepto In Meus Campester
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
You were totally and absolutely correct in every way, I don't know why we were arguing, you're so amazing I should never have doubted you.

Posted by: TheUseless0ne
If so many people around the world hate it so much, why is it used as much as it is? I am fully aware that this little snippet of internet is hardly a fraction of the online population, but you'd think all these people hating it would cause it to be used less and less. Yet I can jump online right now, and I wont see many more or less players using it as I have from the getgo.
It's a similar issue to the noobtube in Call of Duty. It's a weapon that's easy to use and incredibly frustrating to fight against, and it forces the gameplay to revolve around just that mechanic because its inherent overpoweredness renders other aspects of the game irrelevant. Players abuse Armor Lock because they are either inexperienced at the game, or fully knowledgeable when it comes to exploiting an overpowered ability.

Also, nobody that is good at Halo has yet to step up in defense of Armor Lock in this thread, and although correlation does not necessarily imply causation, there's an obviously observable trend here.

  • 06.28.2011 1:43 AM PDT

You are a retard if you try to bring up this account's Reach playtime.

PM for actual GT.


Posted by: TheUseless0ne
Posted by: Nihilistic

Posted by: TheUseless0ne


You do know that you're beating a dead horse when it comes to arguing back over the internet right? It also makes your previous statements less meaningful because people start linking actions to users and thus any statement they make thereafter is looked at as a joke.

Many people, even those who have not even heard of Bungie.net scream in game about Armor Lock. It is widely unaccepted.


If so many people around the world hate it so much, why is it used as much as it is? I am fully aware that this little snippet of internet is hardly a fraction of the online population, but you'd think all these people hating it would cause it to be used less and less. Yet I can jump online right now, and I wont see many more or less players using it as I have from the getgo.

I have no problem going on and on about this; your little friends keep trying to seem to make intelligible arguments that break down to petty insults, and I find that more often than not, the only way to get such people to shut up about some point of view they only THINK they understand is to pound it into the (figuratively, of course). If they feel that they have won by some sad measurement they created, by all means, I am willing to drop this when they are; but I'm not going to just drop this because of someone's hurt false sense of superiority.

If this is the end of it, I should hope you'd inform them of why calling someone "retarded" after the person makes an actual argument make's their point a little less valid.
lolwut

Hurt sense of superiority? I honestly couldnt care less what you think of me. Im just pointing out how retarded you sound when you make arguments that contradict each other and then try to life check on a Halo forum.

  • 06.28.2011 1:45 AM PDT


Posted by: PH0T0Nman
You just wasted 20 minutes of your life saying something that can't be changed...

Hard to believe a damn video game creates so much rage!!!

  • 06.28.2011 1:47 AM PDT

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6 pages later and there are people still defending Armor Lock?

Posted by: TheUseless0ne
I enjoy pointing out the fallacies in the logic of some of these people. I'm hoping they learn something, but then, I always have been a bit of a dreamer.


The only thing illogical that I see is supporting a flawed game mechanic. We're essentially debating whether or not the window is broken on the basis that "it doesn't bother me, and you can also put on a sweater if you're cold"

Why don't we stop saying it's an "opinion" that the window is broken and fix the damn window?!

[Edited on 06.28.2011 1:49 AM PDT]

  • 06.28.2011 1:48 AM PDT

Hi.

Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
6 pages later and there are people still defending Armor Lock?

Posted by: TheUseless0ne
I enjoy pointing out the fallacies in the logic of some of these people. I'm hoping they learn something, but then, I always have been a bit of a dreamer.


The only thing illogical that I see is supporting a flawed game mechanic. We're essentially debating whether or not the window is broken on the basis that "it doesn't bother me, and you can also put on a sweater if you're cold"

Why don't we stop saying it's an "opinion" that the window is broken and fix the damn window?!
This.

  • 06.28.2011 1:50 AM PDT

Adepto In Meus Campester
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
You were totally and absolutely correct in every way, I don't know why we were arguing, you're so amazing I should never have doubted you.

Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
Why don't we stop saying it's an "opinion" that the window is broken and fix the damn window?!

  • 06.28.2011 1:51 AM PDT

-Nikki


Posted by: TheUseless0ne

Armor Lock is used a lot because it's overpowered. Do you think that if you hand someone a golden gun in-game that kills quickly they'd just pass it up? No, it's an easy way to get kills. Armor Lock is an easy way to get out of trouble that the user placed himself in. That doesn't mean it's not overpowered. Like I said before, it's not meant for higher gameplay, it's not meant for matchmaking period.

As for the back and forth arguing, people will learn to be the bigger person and know when to just stop. Since it seems like someone has hit a soft spot with you, I chose you to point out that you're hurting your own argument when you're going back and forth.

  • 06.28.2011 1:52 AM PDT