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Subject: "ADAPT." No. Armor Lock and Sword Block are moronic.

Adapt. Learn to counter or do you need your hand held thought an entire game? or is it to much of a change to wait till he comes out of AL to kill him? Also yes a sword lunge cant be parried at all because its a sword nothing can block it!

  • 06.28.2011 2:39 AM PDT


Posted by: Lyanti

Posted by: jakal_27

Posted by: Lyanti


your flawed logic?


u mad brah?


How old are you? Besides from the "Real age" I don't care. your mental age is that of a 5 year old because trying to make someone mad over the internet shows immaturity.


no it shows that you're just someone that's really easy to troll ;)

And what do you mean "real age"? Are you one of those people who adds 9 months to their age because that's technically how long you've been alive?

and a 5 year old? C'mon, you could do better than that? I'm most definitely 4, at the most.


Oh and before ya go....

  • 06.28.2011 2:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: Wolfstanus
Adapt.


You must have quite the experience to back up such claims. Tell me more...

  • 06.28.2011 2:42 AM PDT


Posted by: R3AN1MAT10N
Play a game that requires skill, kiddo, like Counter Strike:Source. Also, don't be such a BK.

lolhaloreach
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lolbk's

NO WAY ANOTHER CSS PLAYER! But Source doesn't take as much skill as 1.6 did dude. We should play some CS sometime. Most of you guys would probably suck ass at playing counter strike.Objectively Counter Strike is an fps that does take some serious skill to be very good at.
I don't care about AL. I know a lot of people hate it, but instead of complaining, take the initiative and remove it from the game yourself. If you really hate it at least.

  • 06.28.2011 2:43 AM PDT


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Posted by: Wolfstanus
Adapt.


You must have quite the experience to back up such claims. Tell me more...


I shall tell you these things I have learnt during the many suns and moons I have spent learning these skill of wich I am about to speak to you. But first you must swear a oath of moment that you will not use these skill I will tell for evil. For these skill can change everything. Fist we must go to the highest mountains and sit naked to the wind and listen to what it tells you. You must listen very hard to hear the wispers of truth in their words. THen your learning shall begin. But are you ready for these skills? Or are you to weak of mind to handle them?

[Edited on 06.28.2011 2:47 AM PDT]

  • 06.28.2011 2:45 AM PDT
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Posted by: Wolfstanus
Adapt. Learn to counter or do you need your hand held thought an entire game? or is it to much of a change to wait till he comes out of AL to kill him? Also yes a sword lunge cant be parried at all because its a sword nothing can block it!
Oh, look, a retard telling a good and experienced player about the game.

  • 06.28.2011 2:47 AM PDT


Posted by: lol Jetpacks
Posted by: Wolfstanus
Adapt. Learn to counter or do you need your hand held thought an entire game? or is it to much of a change to wait till he comes out of AL to kill him? Also yes a sword lunge cant be parried at all because its a sword nothing can block it!
Oh, look, a retard telling a good and experienced player about the game.


Yes because adapting to a new game mechanic is retarded.

  • 06.28.2011 2:49 AM PDT
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fkn Reachtards.

Posted by: Wolfstanus

Posted by: lol Jetpacks
Posted by: Wolfstanus
Adapt. Learn to counter or do you need your hand held thought an entire game? or is it to much of a change to wait till he comes out of AL to kill him? Also yes a sword lunge cant be parried at all because its a sword nothing can block it!
Oh, look, a retard telling a good and experienced player about the game.

Yes because adapting to a new game mechanic is retarded.
You have very good reading skills!

  • 06.28.2011 2:51 AM PDT


Posted by: lol Jetpacks
Posted by: Wolfstanus

Posted by: lol Jetpacks
Posted by: Wolfstanus
Adapt. Learn to counter or do you need your hand held thought an entire game? or is it to much of a change to wait till he comes out of AL to kill him? Also yes a sword lunge cant be parried at all because its a sword nothing can block it!
Oh, look, a retard telling a good and experienced player about the game.

Yes because adapting to a new game mechanic is retarded.
You have very good reading skills!


Thank you your are very nice. :D

  • 06.28.2011 2:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat

Posted by: Wolfstanus
Adapt.


You must have quite the experience to back up such claims. Tell me more...
Don't really see a need for an explanation. Y'all adapted for Halo 2, adapted for Halo 3. There's really no excuse as to why you can't do it for Reach.


I will when Reach is patched. The other games were.

  • 06.28.2011 2:52 AM PDT


Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat

Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat

Posted by: Wolfstanus
Adapt.


You must have quite the experience to back up such claims. Tell me more...
Don't really see a need for an explanation. Y'all adapted for Halo 2, adapted for Halo 3. There's really no excuse as to why you can't do it for Reach.


I will when Reach is patched. The other games were.


Just adapt man its not that hard. His sheilds a lower than mine. Ill stand a ways back throw a greande every once in a while to keep him in armor lock when he comes out I wont get a EMP because hes to fare away and he cant use AL anymore or for not very long thus making him a easier target.

  • 06.28.2011 2:55 AM PDT
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Posted by: Wolfstanus

Posted by: lol Jetpacks
Posted by: Wolfstanus

Posted by: lol Jetpacks
Posted by: Wolfstanus
Adapt. Learn to counter or do you need your hand held thought an entire game? or is it to much of a change to wait till he comes out of AL to kill him? Also yes a sword lunge cant be parried at all because its a sword nothing can block it!
Oh, look, a retard telling a good and experienced player about the game.

Yes because adapting to a new game mechanic is retarded.
You have very good reading skills!


Thank you your are very nice. :D
WOW.

  • 06.28.2011 2:56 AM PDT


Posted by: xD Reach
WOW.


Being awake for over 48 hours makes me see the world in my own "special" way :D

  • 06.28.2011 3:02 AM PDT
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If you never give up, you never lose.

This thread is more about comparing skill than discussing gameplay mechanics.

The one solution that will fix all of this is to have AA's available as pickups on the map. That way, someone who has the 'overpowered' armor lock has deserved it, because he managed to pick it up. And those who use it correctly will do so, those who can't won't even bother. Armor lock isn't the only AA that can be abused, you know. This simple solution fixes most of the problems already. I haven't seen a single rant about anything MLG-related on these forums. See the link? (except that they are supposed to be "try-hards", but claiming that proves how narrow-minded some people are)

As for sword block, I still think it encourages teamplay, as the blocker is left with one block of health, ready to be taken out by a teammate. Otherwise the sword user can just whip out his pistol and go for a body shot. Sword block prevents a sword guy from sprinting into a tight space and slicing everyone down systematically before anyone can kill him. This makes it less noob friendly, which is what we want, right..?

Now please, stop insulting eachother and talk about game mechanics. Most of you can't be convinced in any way, but I hope you will see that there are other options to 'fix' something other than to just nerf it.

  • 06.28.2011 3:28 AM PDT

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I love sword block.. Especially when someones camping. ;) Block, block, grenade.. Dead. Thank you Bungie!

Edit: Learn how to fight without power weapons, plox. Anyone can use a sword. Even a 6 year old guest.

[Edited on 06.28.2011 3:45 AM PDT]

  • 06.28.2011 3:43 AM PDT

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The only people I've ever seen complaining about them were on b.net. Nobody else cares and bothers nobody

  • 06.28.2011 3:48 AM PDT

Atra gulia un ilian tauthr ono un atra waise skoliro fra rauthr - May luck and happiness follow you and may you be shielded from misfortune.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=15804986

Oh, by the way.. Nice firefight AFCing skills you have there. Look at your heat maps.. Reds in all the spawn points.

  • 06.28.2011 3:54 AM PDT

My spartan is old school.. why? He doesn't like to update. Bahahaa, no.

Are you people serious?
Go back to medeval times, did guys just stand there and get their arm chopped off?
No, they blocked..

Nuff said.

  • 06.28.2011 4:05 AM PDT


Posted by: Spartan Z47
Are you people serious?
Go back to medeval times, did guys just stand there and get their arm chopped off?
No, they blocked..

Nuff said.


"Tis only a flesh wound"

  • 06.28.2011 4:06 AM PDT

My spartan is old school.. why? He doesn't like to update. Bahahaa, no.


Posted by: Wolfstanus

Posted by: Spartan Z47
Are you people serious?
Go back to medeval times, did guys just stand there and get their arm chopped off?
No, they blocked..

Nuff said.



"Tis only a flesh wound"


Look, you stupid Bastard. You've got no arms left.

[Edited on 06.28.2011 4:09 AM PDT]

  • 06.28.2011 4:09 AM PDT
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If you never give up, you never lose.


Posted by: Wolfstanus

Posted by: Spartan Z47
Are you people serious?
Go back to medeval times, did guys just stand there and get their arm chopped off?
No, they blocked..

Nuff said.


"Tis only a flesh wound"

lol'd

  • 06.28.2011 4:09 AM PDT


Posted by: Spartan Z47

Posted by: Wolfstanus

Posted by: Spartan Z47
Are you people serious?
Go back to medeval times, did guys just stand there and get their arm chopped off?
No, they blocked..

Nuff said.



"Tis only a flesh wound"


Look, you stupid Bastard. You've got no arms left.


I shall kicks your shins

  • 06.28.2011 4:13 AM PDT

LONG LIVED METAL


Posted by: FabFubar
This thread is more about comparing skill than discussing gameplay mechanics.

The one solution that will fix all of this is to have AA's available as pickups on the map. That way, someone who has the 'overpowered' armor lock has deserved it, because he managed to pick it up. And those who use it correctly will do so, those who can't won't even bother. Armor lock isn't the only AA that can be abused, you know. This simple solution fixes most of the problems already. I haven't seen a single rant about anything MLG-related on these forums. See the link? (except that they are supposed to be "try-hards", but claiming that proves how narrow-minded some people are)

As for sword block, I still think it encourages teamplay, as the blocker is left with one block of health, ready to be taken out by a teammate. Otherwise the sword user can just whip out his pistol and go for a body shot. Sword block prevents a sword guy from sprinting into a tight space and slicing everyone down systematically before anyone can kill him. This makes it less noob friendly, which is what we want, right..?

Now please, stop insulting eachother and talk about game mechanics. Most of you can't be convinced in any way, but I hope you will see that there are other options to 'fix' something other than to just nerf it.


Armour lock only benefits you in certain situations:
grenade blocking
melee combat
team play

It also has its downsides:
you are still for up to 5 seconds, awaiting a well placed sniper headshot, allowing the enemy team to surround you, or a grenade timed for when you pop out.

It really isn't that big a problem.
In the old games grenades had to be toned down, people complained about "charge and stick" and here we are with a direct solution to that problem.

The other armour abilities have their benefits too:
invisibility - one person on your team using this can blind the entire enemy teams radar
hologram - can confuse enemy players into wasting ammo or falling prey to assasination. Team use is far more effective
jetpack - height advantage for: headshots, rockets and grenades. Also easier map manouverbility
sprint - escape, get power weapons at start of a match, sword charge.

The fact is each and every armour ability has its benfit and some work better in team use.

armour lock is one of these. Get used to it.

  • 06.28.2011 4:36 AM PDT