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Subject: "ADAPT." No. Armor Lock and Sword Block are moronic.

Posted by: RebornCalamity
I'm not reading all that. Are you expecting to get an 'A' on that essay?


undoubtedly you prefer the one-word solution to game design: "adapt."

just because something is fair - everyone can use armor lock, if they want to - doesn't make it a good game mechanic. bungie has some of the best game design out there for balance and playability, but they made a couple mistakes in reaech. yes, it's fair, yes, it's something we have to deal with, but discussions about gameplay such as sword blocks and armor lock are the kind of thing developers like bungie actually take to heart.

if the community says "adapt" bungie will just throw whatever into the next game and say "adapt! it's what you want!" we can adapt, but we'd rather have fun and play an enjoyable game.

  • 06.28.2011 12:37 PM PDT

Op I'm impressed an intelligent person on the Halo Reach forum with thumbs. Good job!

[Edited on 06.28.2011 12:43 PM PDT]

  • 06.28.2011 12:43 PM PDT

I'm really surprised this hasn't gotten locked yet.

  • 06.28.2011 12:44 PM PDT


Posted by: Halo Fan Forever
Another armor lock thread. Isn't it only in 2 play lists now?

Squad Slayer doesn't have armor lock.

Please stop these complaints, and yes armor lock is "Halo", because it featured in a Halo game, specifically this one.


For the love of all that is holy, this^. Just don't play Team Slayer, if you want 4v4 team slayer, play arena, if you don't want ranked, play Squad. Get over it. The vast majority of the Reach community likes AL, as evidenced by the population in Team Slayer being more than twice the alternative AL-free team slayer playlists combined.

  • 06.28.2011 12:44 PM PDT


Posted by: TheUseless0ne
Bla bla bla, it's no longer super easy to get kills with power weapons, and the game works better than before with team work, bla bla bla, I hate it.

Poor baby.
It's called a POWER weapon for a reas- . . . . You know what? Forget it. You people don't understand logic. Never have. Never will.

  • 06.28.2011 12:49 PM PDT

Hi.

Posted by: Dr D04K
Just don't play Team Slayer, if you want 4v4 team slayer, play arena
Arena takes forever to find matches and you get screwed over unless you're searching 4's.
Posted by: Dr D04K
if you don't want ranked, play Squad.
Again, getting screwed over by randoms is not fun. I only play Team Slayer when we don't have 4+ people.
Posted by: Dr D04K
Get over it.
No. I will continue to complain. Sorry.
Posted by: Dr D04K
The vast majority of the Reach community likes AL, as evidenced by the population in Team Slayer being more than twice the alternative AL-free team slayer playlists combined.
I'm going to sell my house. I will put a bowl of potatoes in the kitchen before I sell it.

The next day my house has been bought. I now know that the people who bought it absolutely love potatoes. It should become a rule of thumb for house sellers to include a bowl of potatoes somewhere in their house, because obviously the reason these people bought my house so quickly is because of the potatoes.

  • 06.28.2011 12:52 PM PDT

Captain K Mart - doesnt afraid of anything

Well, I don't know champ, maybe you would've had him if you thought, "gee, he can use it twice." He actually played smart, you played like a slow acting fool.

  • 06.28.2011 12:52 PM PDT

Halo fanboy.

No camping.


Posted by: Dr D04K

Posted by: Halo Fan Forever
Another armor lock thread. Isn't it only in 2 play lists now?

Squad Slayer doesn't have armor lock.

Please stop these complaints, and yes armor lock is "Halo", because it featured in a Halo game, specifically this one.


For the love of all that is holy, this^. Just don't play Team Slayer, if you want 4v4 team slayer, play arena, if you don't want ranked, play Squad. Get over it. The vast majority of the Reach community likes AL, as evidenced by the population in Team Slayer being more than twice the alternative AL-free team slayer playlists combined.


AL is still in Rumble Pit. Players who prefer FFA have nowhere to go in Reach. 8 players trying to kill each other doesn't exactly work when half the people are invincible, the other half are invisible, and everyone's camping.

  • 06.28.2011 12:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: HelIJump3r
He actually played smart, you played like a slow acting fool.



Posted by: HelIJump3r
He actually played smart



Posted by: HelIJump3r
smart


You hit your head recently?

  • 06.28.2011 12:54 PM PDT

Why are you here?

ADAPT HARDER

  • 06.28.2011 12:55 PM PDT

Captain K Mart - doesnt afraid of anything

Smart enough to trick that guy to hit him with his sword twice
WHEN HE HAD TWO CHANCES TO USE IT

[Edited on 06.28.2011 12:56 PM PDT]

  • 06.28.2011 12:55 PM PDT

Posted by: Gangster No1
Anyone who claims the AR takes skill ought to shoot himself in the head. Preferably with the AR because they'll most likely miss with any other weapon.

Zome, you may not rage the hardest, but when you do, it's the most intelligent and well thought through rage I've ever seen.

  • 06.28.2011 12:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: HelIJump3r
Smart enough to trick that guy to hit him with his sword twice

He hit left bumper twice. That guys a genius!

  • 06.28.2011 12:56 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?


Posted by: HelIJump3r
Smart enough to trick that guy to hit him with his sword twice
Oh gee. I walked into a Sword Guy.

NO PROBLEM,

ARMOR LOCK.

Oh gee. The guy with Rockets shot one at me.

NO PROBLEM,

ARMOR LOCK.

How in the -blam!- is that playing smart?

  • 06.28.2011 12:56 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.

lmfao

Sword block is horrible, if you disagree I question multiple mental faculties.

Armour Lock is okay, just annoying IMO. It should be removed from small team games & Elite slayer, or be fixed with a TU & kept.

  • 06.28.2011 12:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: Maximus Decimus
Agreed. All the changes are good and add variety. Do we really want another Halo 3? Just running around with one gun and no armor abilities? It's good that 343 wants to try something new. Do we really want the same thing for three more games?


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Posted by: Lord Slade
Posted by: TheUseless0ne
COuld you point this out, specifically where I did that? Maybe actually say something worth a damn in this argument, because so far, none of you have. -blam!-, I'm not even anti-armorlock, and I have better knocks against it that you guys.

And who are you calling a "kid", cream puff?
LMFAO at "cream puff." What kind of loser actually talks like that?


The kind that knows the kid he's taunting is getting POed big time.
I'm laughing so hard. This turned into a huge flame war. There are no "respected opinions" or "debates" anymore.

If someone says something, the disagreement has to be amazingly mean/anger filled.

  • 06.28.2011 1:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: Maximus Decimus
Agreed. All the changes are good and add variety. Do we really want another Halo 3? Just running around with one gun and no armor abilities? It's good that 343 wants to try something new. Do we really want the same thing for three more games?


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Posted by: Dr D04K

Posted by: Halo Fan Forever
Another armor lock thread. Isn't it only in 2 play lists now?

Squad Slayer doesn't have armor lock.

Please stop these complaints, and yes armor lock is "Halo", because it featured in a Halo game, specifically this one.


For the love of all that is holy, this^. Just don't play Team Slayer, if you want 4v4 team slayer, play arena, if you don't want ranked, play Squad. Get over it. The vast majority of the Reach community likes AL, as evidenced by the population in Team Slayer being more than twice the alternative AL-free team slayer playlists combined.


AL is still in Rumble Pit. Players who prefer FFA have nowhere to go in Reach. 8 players trying to kill each other doesn't exactly work when half the people are invincible, the other half are invisible, and everyone's camping.
This. I wonder why Bungie didn't keep FFA Arena, or didn't make an MLG FFA playlist.

  • 06.28.2011 1:01 PM PDT

Hi.

Posted by: Killer VVhale

Posted by: HelIJump3r
Smart enough to trick that guy to hit him with his sword twice

He hit left bumper twice. That guys a genius!
Yeah, he surely outsmarted me.

  • 06.28.2011 1:02 PM PDT

Captain K Mart - doesnt afraid of anything

Did you watch "this senselessness"?
The guy went armor lock, he lunged, the guy left armor lock and immediately went back into it, a trick thats been used since the first time anyone has played Reach, the guy still fell for it, and then when the guy left armor lock and sword canceled him, the idiot tried to melee instead of lunge. Who sounds smarter of the two, the guy who -blam!-ed up multiple times or the guy who used his options correctly?

  • 06.28.2011 1:02 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.

Posted by: Zomechin
Posted by: Killer VVhale

Posted by: HelIJump3r
Smart enough to trick that guy to hit him with his sword twice

He hit left bumper twice. That guys a genius!
Yeah, he surely outsmarted me.


To be fair, he did technically outplay you.

  • 06.28.2011 1:03 PM PDT


Posted by: Zomechin
Posted by: Dr D04K
The vast majority of the Reach community likes AL, as evidenced by the population in Team Slayer being more than twice the alternative AL-free team slayer playlists combined.
I'm going to sell my house. I will put a bowl of potatoes in the kitchen before I sell it.

The next day my house has been bought. I now know that the people who bought it absolutely love potatoes. It should become a rule of thumb for house sellers to include a bowl of potatoes somewhere in their house, because obviously the reason these people bought my house so quickly is because of the potatoes.

If there were numerous other houses on the market that were essentially the same as yours, the only difference being the bowl of potatoes, then yes, that is reason to think it made the difference.

  • 06.28.2011 1:05 PM PDT

Hi.

Posted by: ParagonRenegade
Posted by: Zomechin
Posted by: Killer VVhale

Posted by: HelIJump3r
Smart enough to trick that guy to hit him with his sword twice

He hit left bumper twice. That guys a genius!
Yeah, he surely outsmarted me.


To be fair, he did technically outplay you.
The ending score was 50 to 15.

He was mashing his controller buttons like this and got lucky. Armor Lock suits that kind of play style.

  • 06.28.2011 1:06 PM PDT

Hi.

Posted by: Dr D04K

Posted by: Zomechin
Posted by: Dr D04K
The vast majority of the Reach community likes AL, as evidenced by the population in Team Slayer being more than twice the alternative AL-free team slayer playlists combined.
I'm going to sell my house. I will put a bowl of potatoes in the kitchen before I sell it.

The next day my house has been bought. I now know that the people who bought it absolutely love potatoes. It should become a rule of thumb for house sellers to include a bowl of potatoes somewhere in their house, because obviously the reason these people bought my house so quickly is because of the potatoes.

If there were numerous other houses on the market that were essentially the same as yours, the only difference being the bowl of potatoes, then yes, that is reason to think it made the difference.
So the only difference between these playlists is the presence and lack of Armor Lock...?

Interesting.

  • 06.28.2011 1:06 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.

Posted by: Zomechin
The ending score was 50 to 15.

He was mashing his controller buttons like this and got lucky. Armor Lock suits that kind of play style.


So in other words, Armour Lock did nothing to effect the outcome of the game?

Unless you spam AL like a pro (lmfao Swordbase camp), it's not helping you.

  • 06.28.2011 1:07 PM PDT