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Subject: I'm calling it now. 343 is stupid.

Zomg! How u find this?

They didn't even release any Halo games yet, and they're already releasing information that is making almost every Halo player upset.

First of all, they confirm that Reach and Halo CEA will run entirely independent of each other.

And yet Halo CEA's multiplayer has been confirmed to run in Reach's engine.

Also, Halo CEA has been pretty much confirmed to NOT feature blood gulch! You know why? OH BECAUSE REACH ALREADY HAS BLOOD GULCH IN IT. THAT'S SO SMART. I MEAN THAT WOULD BE SO SMART IF HALO CEA AND REACH DIDN'T RUN INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER.

Oh, did I mention 343 confirmed that Halo CEA's campaign will be absolutely exactly the SAME as the original? Now, hold on a second. That's a good thing. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right? Especially the graphics. You have the option to play the game with the same exact graphics from Halo CE! And I'm assuming that people will be able to do this quite often since judging by the trailer, the new Reach-ish graphics will have terrible frame rate issues. Oh you know why? YEAH BECAUSE 343 ISN'T EVEN GOING TO BOTHER OPTIMIZE THE 10 YEAR OLD ORIGINAL XBOX GAME ENGINE TO SUPPORT HD GRAPHICS HOW SMART OF THEM.

And hey, this is all conformed stuff. Listen to the interviews and watch the trailer suffer from horrible framerates.

Now, I could be wrong. But bookmark this thread or something, because I garuntee that when Halo CEA comes out, Halo fans are going to complain about all the crap 343 is putting out with Halo CEA.

As for Halo 4, I'm worried for that too. Judging SOLELY from the trailer, I'm going to speculate that you have the option to attach things to your guns, like grenade launchers. OH YOU ARE SO ORIGINAL 343 ATTACH GRENADE LAUNCHERS TO THE GUNS YOU ARE SO CREATIVE AND SMART 343.

Urk. I smell trouble with 343. I don't hate 343, and I definitely could be wrong with much of this. I think they're just tripping up a bit early. It also might have something to do with them filling in the Bungie-sized shoes to make a Halo game, I don't know.

Discuss.

  • 06.28.2011 5:57 PM PDT

No one cares about your opinion.

343 plans on releasing TU

Bungie DGAF

[Edited on 06.28.2011 6:06 PM PDT]

  • 06.28.2011 6:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: Chicago663
YEAH BECAUSE 343 ISN'T EVEN GOING TO BOTHER OPTIMIZE THE 10 YEAR OLD ORIGINAL XBOX GAME ENGINE TO SUPPORT HD GRAPHICS HOW SMART OF THEM.



Apparently you don't know how game engines work and how difficult that would actually be.

  • 06.28.2011 6:27 PM PDT

Lol.

  • 06.28.2011 6:57 PM PDT

I'm sure they're making the neccesary changes to the original Halo so that it'll work with Reach graphics. My only complaint: 343i better not turn Halo into call of duty. If they do, I'll make the staff eat their own muscle tissue.

  • 06.28.2011 7:53 PM PDT
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I don't know. Most of the things I have seen seem alright with me. As said above, I don't want any COD in my Halo, but if they present it the correct way, I'm good with it.

Like, the grenade launcher thing. If it is just like some newb tube from MW2, I don't want it. But if it's a pro pipe like from Reach, it's okay for me.

Take a chill pill dude. Don't like chill pills? Take a chill strip...

  • 06.28.2011 8:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: smellierjeans
No one cares about your opinion.

343 plans on releasing TU

Bungie DGAF

This pretty much sums up my thoughts. Everything you've stated has been contradicted by someone who wants exactly the opposite. Relax. Everything will be alright.

  • 06.29.2011 1:30 AM PDT
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My only complaint: Adjust Campaign,

specifically, the splatter damage for marines, the sniper AI (they can do friendly fire (i.e. AotCR in that underground area with the patrolling Covies)), the Hunter's vulnerability to headshot weapons,

and add in weapon exchange.

It might be crazy, since rocket launcher marines will blow themselves up, but there's a whole lot of diversity in that game and it would make combat real interesting. An army of needler marines. Explosive fun!

[Edited on 06.29.2011 3:02 AM PDT]

  • 06.29.2011 3:01 AM PDT

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Please do us all a favor and leave this forum - no one likes whiney little all-caps -blam!-es.

  • 06.29.2011 11:20 AM PDT
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Hey.

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Posted by: smellierjeans
No one cares about your opinion.

343 plans on releasing TU

Bungie DGAF

This pretty much sums up my thoughts. Everything you've stated has been contradicted by someone who wants exactly the opposite. Relax. Everything will be alright.
And no one is forcing you into purchasing the game. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

  • 06.29.2011 11:55 AM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"

I'm reserving judgement until I have a game in my hands that I can play, but I am cautiously optimistic for both CEA and Halo 4.


Posted by: smellierjeans
Bungie DGAF


An intensly moronic statement. Bungies involvement with Halo has been steadily decreasing since Halo 3's release, and that is part of their contractual agreement with MS, something made public knowledge a long time ago.

The whole Bungie vs 343i thing is nonsense.

  • 06.29.2011 12:51 PM PDT

towards the grenade launcher thing, if you look at the trailer closely it looks like it is an entirely new gun. could be wrong btw

  • 06.29.2011 1:37 PM PDT

This thread is so full of fail it's sad.

  • 06.29.2011 2:17 PM PDT

First off: No.

Now let me pick your post apart.

First of all, they confirm that Reach and Halo CEA will run entirely independent of each other.

And yet Halo CEA's multiplayer has been confirmed to run in Reach's engine.



They are independent. Halo CEA has it's on engine. The multiplayer is barely a part of Halo CEA, it's more like a map pack for Halo Reach, like ODST.


Also, Halo CEA has been pretty much confirmed to NOT feature blood gulch! You know why? OH BECAUSE REACH ALREADY HAS BLOOD GULCH IN IT. THAT'S SO SMART. I MEAN THAT WOULD BE SO SMART IF HALO CEA AND REACH DIDN'T RUN INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER.

You pretty much invalidated your own complaint. Also, caps lock is for terrible people.

Oh, did I mention 343 confirmed that Halo CEA's campaign will be absolutely exactly the SAME as the original? Now, hold on a second. That's a good thing. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right? Especially the graphics. You have the option to play the game with the same exact graphics from Halo CE! And I'm assuming that people will be able to do this quite often since judging by the trailer, the new Reach-ish graphics will have terrible frame rate issues. Oh you know why? YEAH BECAUSE 343 ISN'T EVEN GOING TO BOTHER OPTIMIZE THE 10 YEAR OLD ORIGINAL XBOX GAME ENGINE TO SUPPORT HD GRAPHICS HOW SMART OF THEM.

Proof of this? They would have had to optimize it. All it is is an overlay, if there were noticeable framerate issues (which judging from the footage, there isn't), they'll work them out. They'd be idiots to screw this up being their first release. The only issue is it would take a few seconds to make the transition between the updated engine and the old one, which they have already admitted, which is understandable anyways.


Now, I could be wrong. But bookmark this thread or something, because I garuntee that when Halo CEA comes out, Halo fans are going to complain about all the crap 343 is putting out with Halo CEA.

Let me get right on that.

As for Halo 4, I'm worried for that too. Judging SOLELY from the trailer, I'm going to speculate that you have the option to attach things to your guns, like grenade launchers. OH YOU ARE SO ORIGINAL 343 ATTACH GRENADE LAUNCHERS TO THE GUNS YOU ARE SO CREATIVE AND SMART 343.

Ok. You're making a judgement on an entire game solely on a max 2 minute CGI teaser. Invalidated.


Urk. I smell trouble with 343. I don't hate 343, and I definitely could be wrong with much of this. I think they're just tripping up a bit early. It also might have something to do with them filling in the Bungie-sized shoes to make a Halo game, I don't know.

Exactly, you don't know because they haven't released either Halo CEA or Halo 4 yet. Why don't you wait till then to have an actual basis for your arguments.

  • 06.29.2011 2:52 PM PDT
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Sometimes, I dream about cheese.

actually i wouldnt mind if halo became more like CoD + it wouldnt bother me as much as it bothers you because they've been running out of ideas for halo for 3 and a half years now

(HALO C.E and 2 are the only games from the series i would give a 10 out of 10) i was disappointed with HALO 3 because the campaign was appalling which takes up half the game but the multiplayer was alright.

so even if HALO C.E.A and HALO 4 wont turn out as good as you expected it to, keep in mind HALO cant stay perfect forever

  • 06.29.2011 4:27 PM PDT

Halo:CEA seems to be exactly what it should be. Speaking of campaign only, with some extra content that should be nice.

But multiplayer? Im seriously pissed. I hate Reach and i could give censored things about new Reach maps.
Dumbest descision ever, the fans that was looking forward to play CE, not to play Reach.

  • 06.29.2011 4:52 PM PDT

I believe 343 had said that halo ce multiplayer would not work due to the difference in the netcode on xbox live would make the gameplay frustrating. Also there is the splitting up the fanbase and the problem of having to go supporting Halo Reach, Halo CEA and then Halo 4 all within about a year from each other.

  • 06.29.2011 7:20 PM PDT
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R.I.P. Halo 2
11/9/04 - 4/15/10

- B( )B

Now we know you're an idiot.

  • 06.29.2011 9:08 PM PDT

I'm pretty sure they will not be using Halo: CE's game engine and reaches graphics, its most likely a modified version of Reaches engines or a custom made one that have the option to change to lower res. Not the other way around.

  • 06.30.2011 8:20 AM PDT

The only thing that bothers me is their -blam!- "remastered" version of the main theme. Is sucks major ass.

  • 06.30.2011 3:37 PM PDT


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Will wait till I play to judge 343. The remake is kind of a training wheels issue...what happens with 4 ? That's what makes me wonder if they can step into Bungie's size 64 hoof.

  • 07.01.2011 7:15 PM PDT
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lololol soooo stupid.

Just because they run "independently of one another" doesn't mean they are 100% incompatible. The campaign runs on the original game's engine. The multiplayer is similar to how ODST's multiplayer worked. It's just going to be Halo Reach sans campaign, and with the addition of new maps.

Before you -blam!- and moan, do two seconds of research so you don't look as ignorant as you obviously are
Posted by: Chicago663
They didn't even release any Halo games yet, and they're already releasing information that is making almost every Halo player upset.

First of all, they confirm that Reach and Halo CEA will run entirely independent of each other.

And yet Halo CEA's multiplayer has been confirmed to run in Reach's engine.

Also, Halo CEA has been pretty much confirmed to NOT feature blood gulch! You know why? OH BECAUSE REACH ALREADY HAS BLOOD GULCH IN IT. THAT'S SO SMART. I MEAN THAT WOULD BE SO SMART IF HALO CEA AND REACH DIDN'T RUN INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER.

Oh, did I mention 343 confirmed that Halo CEA's campaign will be absolutely exactly the SAME as the original? Now, hold on a second. That's a good thing. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right? Especially the graphics. You have the option to play the game with the same exact graphics from Halo CE! And I'm assuming that people will be able to do this quite often since judging by the trailer, the new Reach-ish graphics will have terrible frame rate issues. Oh you know why? YEAH BECAUSE 343 ISN'T EVEN GOING TO BOTHER OPTIMIZE THE 10 YEAR OLD ORIGINAL XBOX GAME ENGINE TO SUPPORT HD GRAPHICS HOW SMART OF THEM.

And hey, this is all conformed stuff. Listen to the interviews and watch the trailer suffer from horrible framerates.

Now, I could be wrong. But bookmark this thread or something, because I garuntee that when Halo CEA comes out, Halo fans are going to complain about all the crap 343 is putting out with Halo CEA.

As for Halo 4, I'm worried for that too. Judging SOLELY from the trailer, I'm going to speculate that you have the option to attach things to your guns, like grenade launchers. OH YOU ARE SO ORIGINAL 343 ATTACH GRENADE LAUNCHERS TO THE GUNS YOU ARE SO CREATIVE AND SMART 343.

Urk. I smell trouble with 343. I don't hate 343, and I definitely could be wrong with much of this. I think they're just tripping up a bit early. It also might have something to do with them filling in the Bungie-sized shoes to make a Halo game, I don't know.

Discuss.

  • 07.01.2011 7:56 PM PDT

"well said mini moose"

It is not Reaches graphics in campaign, just models. The graphics enginge is completely new and still UNFINISHED and a lot of what we saw is just placeholder, you can tell because the marines don't even hold on to the chain gun right.

  • 07.01.2011 8:03 PM PDT

no. nonono

Your first few points are retarded and are your opinion. And your last point is stupid.

  • 07.01.2011 9:27 PM PDT

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