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Subject: Will Halo 4's game feel lean toward Halo 3 or Halo: Reach
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I can honestly tell you I hated Halo: Reach's game engine, AA's, and campaign overall.

AA's made the game a game that shouldn't have "Halo" in the title. Lets leave it at that.

The campaign (spoilers) was short and unfavorable. The killing off of every member of the team was stupid, and the ways each member died (besides say, Jorge) were rushed and didn't feel real/needed.

I won't piss and moan about the BR, and I never have, but I'd favor it over the DMR any day, if I had a choice. I also won't piss and moan about the ranking system in reach, though a major flaw, Bungie messed up and I think 343 will learn.

Do you guys think Halo 4 gameplay will lean toward Reach (Unfortunately I'm almost certain) or Halo 3?

  • 06.28.2011 7:47 PM PDT

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one can only hope for a halo 2/3 feel

  • 06.28.2011 7:51 PM PDT

Posted by: JewBallzs
I won't piss and moan


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  • 06.28.2011 7:51 PM PDT

I honestly don't care. I mean, I like Reach's 'feel' more, but I didn't view it as so drastically different in the basics.

  • 06.28.2011 7:56 PM PDT

Not every member was killed Jun is with doctor Halsy and Jorge was just teleported to a different place

  • 06.28.2011 8:00 PM PDT
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Imagine a triangle. It's perfect, but a little plain. You take a chisel, and carve a small decorative symbol into it to make it a little more interesting. People like it, but it could use a little more.

So you then take a sledgehammer..


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Posted by: PISTOLSQUIRREL
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one can only hope for a halo 2/3 feel

  • 06.28.2011 8:02 PM PDT

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Not every member was killed Jun is with doctor Halsy and Jorge was just teleported to a different place
Nope.

  • 06.28.2011 8:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: BadAssTAnK21
Not every member was killed Jun is with doctor Halsy and Jorge was just teleported to a different place


Who is to say their journey was a safe one?
And Jorge was in the ship that exploded, right?

[Edited on 06.28.2011 8:22 PM PDT]

  • 06.28.2011 8:22 PM PDT

i want to play Halo Reach with Halo 3's feel, if anyone understands what I'm saying.

I mean I want Reach's guns, quick pace (when not slowed down by armor lock), some armor abilities (maybe just sprint, jetpack, active camo, and evade) and HUD but I want Halo 3's movement abilities, equipment, and dual wielding. I want a marriage of the two games, if possible, with some added innovation.

The thing is, minus the armor abilities, I pretty much described Halo 2.

  • 06.28.2011 9:18 PM PDT

Uh... I'ed rather it plays like Halo 4.

  • 06.28.2011 9:30 PM PDT

Perception is everything.

I hope it favors Halo 3 more. Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against Reach. I've had a lot of fun playing it.


But Halo 3 was THE game for me. I feel kind of pathetic saying this, but some of the best times of my life were made playing Halo 3 with friends.

Of course, I don't want Halo 4 to be identical to Halo 3, because what would be the point of a new game? I do hope it captures some of the feel of Halo 3 though.

  • 06.28.2011 9:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: falcon8134
Uh... I'ed rather it plays like Halo 4.
Thank you! Logic!

If Halo 4 is like either Halo 3 or Reach, I'll facepalm for the future of Halo.
343 is (or at least should be) trying to do is make themselves stand out from Bungie. Being like either Halo 3 or Halo: Reach in my opinion means that they can't find their own feel, and have to prop themselves up on the styles and feels of the other games of the series.
It's going to sound weird, but it's almost like a perception of weakness in a game developer for me.

If they can't create something new, fresh and exciting... why bother?

  • 06.28.2011 10:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: falcon8134
Uh... I'ed rather it plays like Halo 4.


If they can't create something new, fresh and exciting... why bother?


They could break the game and it's community for the worse. Look at CoD, an example everyone encounters daily on forum sites... Cod4 and WaW were awesome games but the series is downhill ever since MW2 "freshened" things up a bit...for the worse.

I understand what you're saying, you don't want a GoW type series, but remember how I said the word "like" and not "be".

  • 06.28.2011 10:30 PM PDT


Posted by: JewBallzs

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Posted by: falcon8134
Uh... I'ed rather it plays like Halo 4.


If they can't create something new, fresh and exciting... why bother?


They could break the game and it's community for the worse. Look at CoD, an example everyone encounters daily on forum sites... Cod4 and WaW were awesome games but the series is downhill ever since MW2 "freshened" things up a bit...for the worse.

I understand what you're saying, you don't want a GoW type series, but remember how I said the word "like" and not "be".


Yes, I understand what you're saying sir. However, people on here are sayinf it should lean one way or another. It should "feel" like Halo. Bring the BR back for all I care. Just don't try and make the game like Bungie. Make it like 343.
CoD sucked before that anyways.

Not trying to be a jerk or anything and I agree I do NOT want Halo 4 to be like Reach. However, I don't want Halo 4 to be like Halo 3 or 2 either.

[Edited on 06.28.2011 10:54 PM PDT]

  • 06.28.2011 10:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: falcon8134
Uh... I'ed rather it plays like Halo 4.


If they can't create something new, fresh and exciting... why bother?


They could break the game and it's community for the worse. Look at CoD, an example everyone encounters daily on forum sites... Cod4 and WaW were awesome games but the series is downhill ever since MW2 "freshened" things up a bit...for the worse.

I understand what you're saying, you don't want a GoW type series, but remember how I said the word "like" and not "be".


Yes, I understand what you're saying sir. However, people on here are sayinf it should lean one way or another. It should "feel" like Halo. Bring the BR back for all I care. Just don't try and make the game like Bungie. Make it like 343.
CoD sucked before that anyways.


It'd be hard for them to not make the game like Bungie, yet at the same time have a Halo "feel". That's probably because that is asking for something that is impossible.

Not only that, but Bungie has Halo 1-3 which were relatively similar (Halo 3 is a stretch but I'll include it), and Halo: Reach which is completely different. It's hard to identify the "Halo feel" when one major part of Halo is completely different than a smaller part that is unfortunately the lasting effect (the most recent).

If the "Halo feel" was defined as "the Feel of Halo 1-3" and not "the feel of everything Halo" then I'd want 343 to stick with the Halo feel. But because that is an "if", I'd just have to simplify it by saying: I want Halo 4 to not reflect on Reach at all.

Oh and I'd have to throw out the fanboy card if you can't admit Cod4 was a half decent game, though in reality it's a legendary game that I think WaW competes with fairly well.

[Edited on 06.28.2011 11:04 PM PDT]

  • 06.28.2011 11:02 PM PDT


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Posted by: falcon8134
Uh... I'ed rather it plays like Halo 4.


If they can't create something new, fresh and exciting... why bother?


They could break the game and it's community for the worse. Look at CoD, an example everyone encounters daily on forum sites... Cod4 and WaW were awesome games but the series is downhill ever since MW2 "freshened" things up a bit...for the worse.

I understand what you're saying, you don't want a GoW type series, but remember how I said the word "like" and not "be".


Yes, I understand what you're saying sir. However, people on here are sayinf it should lean one way or another. It should "feel" like Halo. Bring the BR back for all I care. Just don't try and make the game like Bungie. Make it like 343.
CoD sucked before that anyways.


It'd be hard for them to not make the game like Bungie, yet at the same time have a Halo "feel". That's probably because that is asking for something that is impossible.

Not only that, but Bungie has Halo 1-3 which were relatively similar (Halo 3 is a stretch but I'll include it), and Halo: Reach which is completely different. It's hard to identify the "Halo feel" when one major part of Halo is completely different than a smaller part that is unfortunately the lasting effect (the most recent).

If the "Halo feel" was defined as "the Feel of Halo 1-3" and not "the feel of everything Halo" then I'd want 343 to stick with the Halo feel. But because that is an "if", I'd just have to simplify it by saying: I want Halo 4 to not reflect on Reach at all.







Yes, I understand 100% and agree. 343 is in a very tough spot trying to make the game feel like Halo, but trying and be fresh at the same time. I for one have no idea how to do this, to be perfectly honest.
To me the "Halo feel" is definded by shooting from the hip (from most guns), balance, teamwork, skill, and fun. Just listing MP. I would love nothing more than it for lean toward Halo 2-3, because they featured all these. I do however, want it to feel like somewhat of a new game since this is a new trilogy.
Halo 4 needs to have those things I listed, but trying to make it feel like its own game.

Sorry if that didn't make much sense... my sleeping pills are kicking in.

&& yes I do love Halo alot. I enjoyed the old CoD games much more than the MW saga to be honest.

[Edited on 06.28.2011 11:18 PM PDT]

  • 06.28.2011 11:14 PM PDT

In regards to COD I disagree with the classification of MW2 as a bad game. I thought it was really good - it just had horrifically bad post-release support, what with all of the mods, hackers, glitches, and other exploitations. But I thought the actual game was good save for the extreme frustration being spawn-killed frequently caused me.

Now Black Ops, that's where COD went downhill. (Except for Zombies)

[Edited on 06.28.2011 11:15 PM PDT]

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  • 06.28.2011 11:17 PM PDT


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In regards to COD I disagree with the classification of MW2 as a bad game. I thought it was really good - it just had horrifically bad post-release support, what with all of the mods, hackers, glitches, and other exploitations. But I thought the actual game was good save for the extreme frustration being spawn-killed frequently caused me.

Now Black Ops, that's where COD went downhill. (Except for Zombies)


Going even more downhill after the crap they threw out there for MW3. Wow it looks terrible.

[Edited on 06.28.2011 11:26 PM PDT]

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  • 06.29.2011 1:51 AM PDT

Very funny

Hopefully it's a mix of CE and H3, if the games becomes Reach2 then i'm not buying it

  • 06.29.2011 1:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: falcon8134
Uh... I'ed rather it plays like Halo 4.


If they can't create something new, fresh and exciting... why bother?


They could break the game and it's community for the worse. Look at CoD, an example everyone encounters daily on forum sites... Cod4 and WaW were awesome games but the series is downhill ever since MW2 "freshened" things up a bit...for the worse.
I'm going to point out that the biggest 'fresh and new' game of the series was CoD 4, which is arguably the best game in the series and one of my favourite games of all time.

If CoD 4 hadn't "freshened it up" like you say MW2 did, then CoD'd still be a same-y WWII shooter and most of the industry would be different due to the competition that the "chart-topping" Modern Warfare games created.

  • 06.29.2011 2:07 AM PDT

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