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Subject: Halo Wars undeniably proves Halo 4 will take place in a shield world

"A LIE is a LIE"


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MC descending to tunnel in Halo 4 trailer. Note the light; and note that the access tunnel opens when MC approaches it. This is clearly the automated system like Halo wars.


Now look at this -

The shield world in Halo wars had access tunnels; here. These tunnels have portals which transport you to the shield world.


Now look at this -

SOF leaving the tunnel system. Note that the tunnel is huge, about 10x the size of the SOF, and the clear resemblance to Halo 4

Now look at this -

Scroll down to the Access tunnels section.

Quote from it -The surface of the Shield World had multiple access portals, which could be used to gain access to the Shield World. Most of them were likely hidden, for example covered under large bodies of water, such as the one the UNSC Spirit of Fire used to enter the Shield World. The access portals were seemingly automated, and controlled by an AI. Within the tunnels inside the superstructure, there was a cleansing system, which prevented the Flood from entering the interior. This quarantine system consisted of several "Cleansing Rings", which created energy fields within their diameter, which would destroy any Flood biomass on a passing ship. On the interior, these portals had six interlocks that needed to be opened in order to unlock the access to the tunnel, and they could only be operated by a human.


"And they could only be operated by a human"


I guess MC would be the one to do that.

[Edited on 06.29.2011 11:20 AM PDT]

  • 06.29.2011 11:11 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

I have been saying this since halowars came out that it would be brought up more in the future. and ever since cryptum and the halo 4 teaser i have been saying that shield worlds (especially halowars) are going to have an importance.

  • 06.29.2011 11:14 AM PDT

"A LIE is a LIE"


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Posted by: grey101
I have been saying this since halowars came out that it would be brought up more in the future. and ever since cryptum and the halo 4 teaser i have been saying that shield worlds (especially halowars) are going to have an importance.


This is actually for newbies to the Universe forums. I wouldn't expect a Halo veteran to find this thread useful.

  • 06.29.2011 11:16 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

The opening in the Halo 4 teaser looks more like a portal structure mixed with the Halo Wars tunnels.

If it is a shield world,then it is one far different then the other types.

But i don't think it's a shield world,why would MB send the Chief there?

  • 06.29.2011 11:18 AM PDT

"A LIE is a LIE"


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Posted by: hotshot revan II
The opening in the Halo 4 teaser looks more like a portal structure mixed with the Halo Wars tunnels.

If it is a shield world,then it is one far different then the other types.

But i don't think it's a shield world,why would MB send the Chief there?


The resemblance is so clear man. the evidence is staring you in the face!

  • 06.29.2011 11:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: Pipboy 3050

Posted by: hotshot revan II
The opening in the Halo 4 teaser looks more like a portal structure mixed with the Halo Wars tunnels.

If it is a shield world,then it is one far different then the other types.

But i don't think it's a shield world,why would MB send the Chief there?


The resemblance is so clear man. the evidence is staring you in the face!


Really?Maybe i'm blind but those Halo Wars portals had no pedals like that one.

In fact the outer access is under the sea or surface and doesn't resembles the Halo 4 gate.

The inner one resembles it a bit more,but no pedals either.

  • 06.29.2011 11:21 AM PDT

I must go now, my planet needs me.

yer and the SOF could find MC

  • 06.29.2011 11:22 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Perhaps the Shield World in Halo Wars (and potentially H4) is what the Didact originally constructed before Halo. They would have been different from planets like Onyx because of the lack of the MDS.

  • 06.29.2011 11:24 AM PDT


Posted by: hotshot revan II
The opening in the Halo 4 teaser looks more like a portal structure mixed with the Halo Wars tunnels.

If it is a shield world,then it is one far different then the other types.

But i don't think it's a shield world,why would MB send the Chief there?


Agreed.
It looks more like the designs of the Ark Portal and the Dyson Sphere Portal than the Halo Wars gate.

The H4-trailer object has pedals surrounding the opening, just like the two other Portals I mentioned have (7 and 14 respectively). Also, it emits a light. Something the Halo Wars gate never did, but the Portals do.

Thats not saying there won't be a Shield World on the other side. If anything, the series so far has shown us there are several types of Shield Worlds. The Dyson Sphere concept from GoO seems to be more advanced than the one we've seen in Halo Wars, while at the same time the Halo Wars SW can be opened from both sides and the Dyson Sphere can't.

So far, I would say its a Portal. And where it points to is complete and utter speculation. If it is a Portal that means it could point towards a Shield World, but also towards a completely "random" location.
Shield World do appear to be of greater importance in the future of Halo, but at this point with this limited information, it is stupid to claim you're 100% certain its a Shield Wolrd.

  • 06.29.2011 11:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: DonVinzone1

Posted by: hotshot revan II
The opening in the Halo 4 teaser looks more like a portal structure mixed with the Halo Wars tunnels.

If it is a shield world,then it is one far different then the other types.

But i don't think it's a shield world,why would MB send the Chief there?


Agreed.
It looks more like the designs of the Ark Portal and the Dyson Sphere Portal than the Halo Wars gate.

The H4-trailer object has pedals surrounding the opening, just like the two other Portals I mentioned have (7 and 14 respectively). Also, it emits a light. Something the Halo Wars gate never did, but the Portals do.

Thats not saying there won't be a Shield World on the other side. If anything, the series so far has shown us there are several types of Shield Worlds. The Dyson Sphere concept from GoO seems to be more advanced than the one we've seen in Halo Wars, while at the same time the Halo Wars SW can be opened from both sides and the Dyson Sphere can't.

So far, I would say its a Portal. And where it points to is complete and utter speculation. If it is a Portal that means it could point towards a Shield World, but also towards a completely "random" location.
Shield World do appear to be of greater importance in the future of Halo, but at this point with this limited information, it is stupid to claim you're 100% certain its a Shield Wolrd.


I think it would be idiotic to build up the mystery of this mysterious planet only to have John sent to a completely different place. Why would that make any sense? Perhaps the light is there simply for dramatic effect, hiding what is inside the planet. The light does not look any kind of slipspace field.

[Edited on 06.29.2011 11:33 AM PDT]

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

I hate the logic of " the ark portal had pedals therefore any time pedals are seen it is a portal"

And revan forerunners could be on a shield world hence MB sending him there. i don't get why the forerunners would build huge portal then cover it with a shell just as large. nor does it make sense for MB to send chief to another portal that warps chief elsewhere when the Ark was already closer to anything since it was outside the galaxy.

It isn't making sense

[Edited on 06.29.2011 11:34 AM PDT]

  • 06.29.2011 11:33 AM PDT

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Posted by: aaz b
Theory - Perhaps that shield world is the shield world seen in Halo wars. It's possible that it was rebuilt, much like Installation 04.

And if you go of this, then it's possible SOF will be in Halo 4.


That just wouldn't be right at all. Is it too hard to accept that this will be a completely new world that we've not seen before?

  • 06.29.2011 11:37 AM PDT

@ Grey:

But the logic in "these two look completely different, so they undeniably must be the same thing" argumentations of the OP is good enough for you? Please...

Also: I am not saying it will transport Chief somewhere else, but that it might be the case. Especially since all of you already seem set on knowing "for sure" that it is a Shield World when in reality it might be something completely different.
Add to that: the role of Medicant Bias isn't even confirmed in any way whatsoever, except for assumptions based on H3's terminals.

Who says it isn't some kind of Precursor structure?
Who says it isn't some sort of structure build by a race completely unknown to us?
Who says it isn't a Slipspace "deeplink" much like the Mass Effect Relais?

Just because the planet is made from bare metal and we've basically seen 10% of its surface and there happens to be a "Portal/Gate/Whatever label you want to put on it" there doesn't mean it has to be illogical. After all: Earth also features just 1(!) Forerunner structure that would seem totally illogical and out of place when it wasn't covered with earth.

The trailer planet might be a fully functional Forerunner planet-construct that just hasn't gotten the terraforming status yet and has been abandoned ever since.

Who knows?!

I know we don't know at the moment, and that the Shield World theory of yours (and others) is just as speculative as any other theory at this point. And as long as nothing is set in stone or confirmed, I will keep every option open.

(and no, this is no personal attack on you, and I'm not mad or whatever ;) )

  • 06.29.2011 11:47 AM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

Perhaps it's possible to accept that this is and always will be speculation until actual game details arrive.

Nothing's concrete until the game comes out or a campaign reveal trailer and the likes is announced.

Bicker bicker

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We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: DonVinzone1
@ Grey:

But the logic in "these two look completely different, so they undeniably must be the same thing" argumentations of the OP is good enough for you? Please...

Also: I am not saying it will transport Chief somewhere else, but that it might be the case. Especially since all of you already seem set on knowing "for sure" that it is a Shield World when in reality it might be something completely different.
Add to that: the role of Medicant Bias isn't even confirmed in any way whatsoever, except for assumptions based on H3's terminals.

Who says it isn't some kind of Precursor structure?
Who says it isn't some sort of structure build by a race completely unknown to us?
Who says it isn't a Slipspace "deeplink" much like the Mass Effect Relais?

Just because the planet is made from bare metal and we've basically seen 10% of its surface and there happens to be a "Portal/Gate/Whatever label you want to put on it" there doesn't mean it has to be illogical. After all: Earth also features just 1(!) Forerunner structure that would seem totally illogical and out of place when it wasn't covered with earth.

The trailer planet might be a fully functional Forerunner planet-construct that just hasn't gotten the terraforming status yet and has been abandoned ever since.

Who knows?!

I know we don't know at the moment, and that the Shield World theory of yours (and others) is just as speculative as any other theory at this point. And as long as nothing is set in stone or confirmed, I will keep every option open.

(and no, this is no personal attack on you, and I'm not mad or whatever ;) )


It is the fact they are similar and are doing the same thing (an opening to the planet pulling the ship in) and not to mention this is CGI.

Shield world in design so it is ether that or a colony."assumptions based on terminals"? frankie even referenced the terminals in the interview saying if you are familiar with them you have a rough idea what is going on (paraphrasing and i am not looking for a link)

That doesn't look like precursor tech whatsoever, MB said he was sending chief to his makers, and i don't understand the last part. again sending chief to another portal that sends him somewhere else doesn't make sense seeing how all the portals are connected (cryptum) and the fact the Ark was already outside of the galaxy.

We saw a good amount of the surface at the end of halo 3 and on the halo 4 site on xbox.com it shows the surface in detail and it is still pure metal.

The original shield worlds were made for defense and i doubt the didact made them all pretty since it would be pointless if the flood got on them.


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  • 06.29.2011 11:57 AM PDT

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More proof.

  • 06.29.2011 12:02 PM PDT

It looks quite different to me. Anyway, this "Planet" doesn't even have a natural surface. I have a detailed theory about this not being a planet at all, but a ship. The theory might seem less plausible now though.

http://www.bungie.net/forums/posts.aspx?postID=62360534&v iewreplies=true

[Edited on 06.29.2011 1:49 PM PDT]

  • 06.29.2011 12:55 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Since non of the Forerunners went to a Shield World, why would Mendicant Bias send John to a Shield World to meet Forerunners? Makes no sense.

  • 06.29.2011 12:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: DonVinzone1
@ Grey:

But the logic in "these two look completely different, so they undeniably must be the same thing" argumentations of the OP is good enough for you? Please...


I understand your disagreements, but the least you can do is not misrepresent my arguments.

The single best piece of evidence is the fact that the hole opened automatically when chiefs ship approaches backs the shield world theory as the tunnels open automatically via AI (Like Halo wars).

The similar appearances - ditto.

The clear forerunner architecture backs that it is forerunner and NOT precursor (Although precursors may be in the game)

And the idea the MB sent MC to a forerunner shield worlds seems logical.



The evidence points towards the shield world.

And the idea that only a human can operate these openings (see above) also makes it a logical conclusion for a location in Halo 4.


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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Since non of the Forerunners went to a Shield World, why would Mendicant Bias send John to a Shield World to meet Forerunners? Makes no sense.


This

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Since non of the Forerunners went to a Shield World, why would Mendicant Bias send John to a Shield World to meet Forerunners? Makes no sense.


This


give me a link saying those exact words.

And the forerunners are alive in the galaxy, thus this planet is theirs shield world or not.

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Since non of the Forerunners went to a Shield World, why would Mendicant Bias send John to a Shield World to meet Forerunners? Makes no sense.


This


give me a link saying those exact words.

And the forerunners are alive in the galaxy, thus this planet is theirs shield world or not.


halopedian's source is Halo encyclopedia pg 232

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Since non of the Forerunners went to a Shield World, why would Mendicant Bias send John to a Shield World to meet Forerunners? Makes no sense.


This


give me a link saying those exact words.

And the forerunners are alive in the galaxy, thus this planet is theirs shield world or not.


halopedian's source is Halo encyclopedia pg 232


Ugh halopedia.

The forerunners are alive regardless of halopedian 2.0

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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

The Forerunners possibly built this legendary planet after the Forerunner-Flood war,that's the only way i can see them hiding from MB and the Flood.

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