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Posted by: Sturmgewehr44
What if a Faacehugger got a spartan?


Facehugger gets ripped off and obliterated.

  • 06.30.2011 2:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

An SIII's motion tracker, superior eyesight, reflexes and strength would make them walk all over the Aliens,


Motion tracker didn't help the colonial marines at all. Your point about the reflexes and eyesight are good ones though.

Also: What are the SIII's armed with?

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Sturmgewehr44
What if a Faacehugger got a spartan?


Facehugger gets ripped off and obliterated.


Due to the SIII's strength, ripping them off would probably cause them to rip the body off the legs, which would cause acid to get on their face.


[Edited on 06.30.2011 2:21 PM PDT]

  • 06.30.2011 2:16 PM PDT


Posted by: Boba_Fett

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

An SIII's motion tracker, superior eyesight, reflexes and strength would make them walk all over the Aliens,


Motion tracker didn't help the colonial marines at all. Your point about the reflexes and eyesight are good ones though.

Also: What are the SIII's armed with?


uh.......yeah they did? They located an Alien swarm that was attacking them, it was just in the ceiling in stead of the floor.

Its infareds that don't work.

  • 06.30.2011 2:18 PM PDT

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[Edited on 06.30.2011 2:21 PM PDT]

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
uh.......yeah they did? They located an Alien swarm that was attacking them, it was just in the ceiling in stead of the floor.


That's what I mean, it just tells the direction and when there's so many of them it really isn't that helpful.

Does a SIII's MT have detect height or just tell direction?

[Edited on 06.30.2011 2:23 PM PDT]

  • 06.30.2011 2:23 PM PDT


Posted by: Boba_Fett

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
uh.......yeah they did? They located an Alien swarm that was attacking them, it was just in the ceiling in stead of the floor.


That's what I mean, it just tells the direction and when there's so many of them it really isn't that helpful.

Does a SIII's MT have detect height or just tell direction?


And thats why we need to know what kind of IIIs we're talking about.

Besides, a III could either didge, shoot, or tear off without killing the face huggers.

  • 06.30.2011 2:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Boba_Fett

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
uh.......yeah they did? They located an Alien swarm that was attacking them, it was just in the ceiling in stead of the floor.


That's what I mean, it just tells the direction and when there's so many of them it really isn't that helpful.

Does a SIII's MT have detect height or just tell direction?


And thats why we need to know what kind of IIIs we're talking about.

Besides, a III could either didge, shoot, or tear off without killing the face huggers.


Don't blame me, OP didn't give us much info on this whole thing. We don't even know if there is a Queen in situation but I'll just assume there is one.

I thought you were a heroic member.

  • 06.30.2011 2:31 PM PDT


Posted by: Boba_Fett

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Boba_Fett

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
uh.......yeah they did? They located an Alien swarm that was attacking them, it was just in the ceiling in stead of the floor.


That's what I mean, it just tells the direction and when there's so many of them it really isn't that helpful.

Does a SIII's MT have detect height or just tell direction?


And thats why we need to know what kind of IIIs we're talking about.

Besides, a III could either didge, shoot, or tear off without killing the face huggers.


Don't blame me, OP didn't give us much info on this whole thing. We don't even know if there is a Queen in situation but I'll just assume there is one.

I thought you were a heroic member.


I was, but it keeps fluctuating for some reason. Some weeks I'm a Heroic, others I'm just a member. I have no clue why.

  • 06.30.2011 2:44 PM PDT

I'll make one:

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A team of 6 SPARTAN-IIIs with MJOLNIR armor and an AR and Pistol each find themselves cut off from everyone on the outside and stranded in space. The ship is home to a small hive of Xenomorphs led by a Queen. I would like to point out that Xenomorphs are very dense, and very friggen hard to kill. You can shoot off their limbs and they will keep pressing, meaning they have incredible physical and athletic abilities, they are also quite large, an average male standing at around 8' and weighing anywhere from 300-400 pounds of nigh-impenetrable exoskeleton (the only reason the M41A Pulse Rifle's rounds killed them so easily is because they were explosive-tipped), and are very fast learners. They can remain nearly undetected and are roughly 12 times the strength of a normal human being (Spartans are roughly 6 or 7 as a quick fact)

By best bet is by the sixth hour the Xenomorphs had already picked off the Spartans down to the final member.

  • 06.30.2011 2:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Sigma617

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
I'll make one:

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A team of 6 SPARTAN-IIIs with MJOLNIR armor and an AR and Pistol each find themselves cut off from everyone on the outside and stranded in space. The ship is home to a small hive of Xenomorphs led by a Queen. I would like to point out that Xenomorphs are very dense, and very friggen hard to kill. You can shoot off their limbs and they will keep pressing, meaning they have incredible physical and athletic abilities, they are also quite large, an average male standing at around 8' and weighing anywhere from 300-400 pounds of nigh-impenetrable exoskeleton (the only reason the M41A Pulse Rifle's rounds killed them so easily is because they were explosive-tipped), and are very fast learners. They can remain nearly undetected and are roughly 12 times the strength of a normal human being (Spartans are roughly 6 or 7 as a quick fact)

By best bet is by the sixth hour the Xenomorphs had already picked off the Spartans down to the final member.


Jesus Christ. does everyone have to make every other universe so overpowered? You act as if we're fighting Praetorians here. That would NOT be the case in what is described as a Small Hive. Also I thought this was on Sword Base not a spaceship.
Noting the staff of the building, I would suggest 5 dozen Drones maybe a dozen runners (can you imagine a Moa incubated xenomorph?!) a Queen and her Guard; maybe a half dozen Enhanced Drones.
Also, let us assume the Spartan III are members of a team similar to Noble Team. That means specialized MJOLNIR variants and varying weapon proficiencies also equipped with varying Nightvision VISR and tactical light packages.


Spartans can lift three times their weight unarmored, which is about 700 pounds give or take. Their armor increases this by a factor of five, which would be 3,500 pounds or around that, that equals to around a ton and a half. Aliens have been known to pry thick metal doors off of armored personnel carriers with little effort which would easily weigh a ton or more, and slice through power armor like butter. Not to mention, if you read the books it covers almost all of these instances, they have been known to take a shotgun to the face point-blank and keep attacking.

Aliens are brutal, yo.

[Edited on 06.30.2011 3:23 PM PDT]

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Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Posted by: Sigma617

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
I'll make one:

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A team of 6 SPARTAN-IIIs with MJOLNIR armor and an AR and Pistol each find themselves cut off from everyone on the outside and stranded in space. The ship is home to a small hive of Xenomorphs led by a Queen. I would like to point out that Xenomorphs are very dense, and very friggen hard to kill. You can shoot off their limbs and they will keep pressing, meaning they have incredible physical and athletic abilities, they are also quite large, an average male standing at around 8' and weighing anywhere from 300-400 pounds of nigh-impenetrable exoskeleton (the only reason the M41A Pulse Rifle's rounds killed them so easily is because they were explosive-tipped), and are very fast learners. They can remain nearly undetected and are roughly 12 times the strength of a normal human being (Spartans are roughly 6 or 7 as a quick fact)

By best bet is by the sixth hour the Xenomorphs had already picked off the Spartans down to the final member.


Jesus Christ. does everyone have to make every other universe so overpowered? You act as if we're fighting Praetorians here. That would NOT be the case in what is described as a Small Hive. Also I thought this was on Sword Base not a spaceship.
Noting the staff of the building, I would suggest 5 dozen Drones maybe a dozen runners (can you imagine a Moa incubated xenomorph?!) a Queen and her Guard; maybe a half dozen Enhanced Drones.
Also, let us assume the Spartan III are members of a team similar to Noble Team. That means specialized MJOLNIR variants and varying weapon proficiencies also equipped with varying Nightvision VISR and tactical light packages.


Spartans can lift three times their weight unarmored, which is about 700 pounds give or take. Their armor increases this by a factor of five, which would be 3,500 pounds or around that, that equals to around a ton and a half. Aliens have been known to pry thick metal doors off of armored personnel carriers with little effort which would easily weigh a ton or more, and slice through power armor like butter. Not to mention, if you read the books it covers almost all of these instances, they have been known to take a shotgun to the face point-blank and keep attacking.

Aliens are brutal, yo.


Fine,how about this:

-Master Chiefs Mark V survived a burst from 50 mm cannons from an aerial craft.

-They can lift warthogs which weight around 3 ton

-Ch!ef smashed into a blast door like nothing in the Halo 4 teaser like nothing.

-Which power armor did they sliced through?Marine armor?An armor on par with Spartans?

  • 06.30.2011 3:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sturmgewehr44
What if a Faacehugger got a spartan? [/quote]

Facehugger gets ripped off and obliterated.[/quote]

Due to the SIII's strength, ripping them off would probably cause them to rip the body off the legs, which would cause acid to get on their face.

And even if they tryed carefully prying it off, the facehugger could just as easily tighten its grip or spit acid down the Spartans throat.

[Edited on 06.30.2011 3:34 PM PDT]

  • 06.30.2011 3:34 PM PDT

Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Posted by: Sigma617

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
I'll make one:

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A team of 6 SPARTAN-IIIs with MJOLNIR armor and an AR and Pistol each find themselves cut off from everyone on the outside and stranded in space. The ship is home to a small hive of Xenomorphs led by a Queen. I would like to point out that Xenomorphs are very dense, and very friggen hard to kill. You can shoot off their limbs and they will keep pressing, meaning they have incredible physical and athletic abilities, they are also quite large, an average male standing at around 8' and weighing anywhere from 300-400 pounds of nigh-impenetrable exoskeleton (the only reason the M41A Pulse Rifle's rounds killed them so easily is because they were explosive-tipped), and are very fast learners. They can remain nearly undetected and are roughly 12 times the strength of a normal human being (Spartans are roughly 6 or 7 as a quick fact)

By best bet is by the sixth hour the Xenomorphs had already picked off the Spartans down to the final member.


Jesus Christ. does everyone have to make every other universe so overpowered? You act as if we're fighting Praetorians here. That would NOT be the case in what is described as a Small Hive. Also I thought this was on Sword Base not a spaceship.
Noting the staff of the building, I would suggest 5 dozen Drones maybe a dozen runners (can you imagine a Moa incubated xenomorph?!) a Queen and her Guard; maybe a half dozen Enhanced Drones.
Also, let us assume the Spartan III are members of a team similar to Noble Team. That means specialized MJOLNIR variants and varying weapon proficiencies also equipped with varying Nightvision VISR and tactical light packages.


Spartans can lift three times their weight unarmored, which is about 700 pounds give or take. Their armor increases this by a factor of five, which would be 3,500 pounds or around that, that equals to around a ton and a half. Aliens have been known to pry thick metal doors off of armored personnel carriers with little effort which would easily weigh a ton or more, and slice through power armor like butter. Not to mention, if you read the books it covers almost all of these instances, they have been known to take a shotgun to the face point-blank and keep attacking.

Aliens are brutal, yo.


Fine,how about this:

-Master Chiefs Mark V survived a burst from 50 mm cannons from an aerial craft.

-They can lift warthogs which weight around 3 ton

-Ch!ef smashed into a blast door like nothing in the Halo 4 teaser like nothing.

-Which power armor did they sliced through?Marine armor?An armor on par with Spartans?


In Aliens: Genesis and Alien Warrior ran full speed into the side of an APC full-throttle and almost toppled it, I'd say that's pretty much neck-in-neck with a SPARTAN in full armor, imagine how badly one would lose if he were unarmored.

In Aliens: Berserkers, the title characters, Berserkers, are special ops forces that wear power armor that allows them the strength and speed equivalent to that of an Alien Warrior, and they easily tore through that and tore the operator's head off.

I would have to say in hand to hand combat SPARTANS pale miserably. And even if you give them a gun, Xenomorphs still possess superior numbers, enough to overwhelm the Spartans.

In case you haven't noticed, almost every time Marines encounter Xenomorphs in the Alien films, they are always killed down to the last two or three people, some of the time, the rest of the time they just all die. In Halo the Marines almost always come out of a Covenant engagement with half of their squad alive most of the time.

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Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Posted by: SergeantLemon25

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Posted by: Pewter
Depends on the Hives numbers, location, and species the xenos burst out of.

But I'm gonna have to bregrudgingly hand it to the S III's here, especially if they have a good clue of what they are facing. but I do suspect the Spartans loose a few; while the xenos are mostly just animals, they have done some clever tricks.


Posted by: ThePredkiller2
"I admire its purity. Unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of mortality, the perfect organism." - Ash, Alien

Xenomorphs > ALL!

PERIOD!


*Watches as a xeno gets torn a new set of orfices by a Zerg Hydralisk and Tyranid Warrior.*

You were saying?

The xenomorph is not even close to Zerg Ultralisks... or Brutalisks... or even OMEGALISKS... some people are ridiculisk.
Don't forget that the flood can infect them too.


Nope. And the only reason those win is because they are like 50x larger. If they were both the same size... guess who's getting torn a new a$$hole?


The xenomorph. Play Starcraft 2 plzthx. On Hard difficulty. You will learn to hate the Hydralisk.

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Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Posted by: SergeantLemon25
Don't forget that the flood can infect them too.


Nope. And the only reason those win is because they are like 50x larger. If they were both the same size... guess who's getting torn a new a$$hole?


sorry to burst your bubble, but most Zerg and Tyranid beasties have ranged attacks of some sort. A Nid Warrior and Hydralisk shrunk a little can still give a Xeno more holes to bleed from.

The Zerg is what a Xeno wants to be when it hits puberty, the Tyranids is what the Xenos Desperately want to be when they grow up.

The only thing the Xenos could claim at being better at(besides dying of course) is bein Immune to the flood, rather than just being very hard to infect.

  • 07.01.2011 7:36 AM PDT


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
It hardly affects it to be honest, even if using camouflage, the Xenomorphs would be able to locate them (as shown in Aliens vs Predator) because they have an echolocation system like bats and other animals, to compensate for their lack of eyes.
Yeah but Ghosts of onyx they have camo, no shields, and the armor doesn't cool so they would get hot. Also no air supply. In reach noble team had a less bulky version of master chiefs Mjolner which kept the person cool and has regenerating shields. That makes a big difference. If an alien spit acid on SPI armor it would act like plasma and melt through SPI while Mjolner shields would drop and give the Spartan an idea where it's hiding.

[Edited on 07.01.2011 8:33 AM PDT]

  • 07.01.2011 8:20 AM PDT

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Posted by: Xd00999
Really close fight, it could go either way depending on what happens.
If the Aliens are feeling tricky, they could hide and ambush the Spartans, possibly killing them. This is a whole hive after all, chances are that the Spartans would suffer some losses.
Spartans have motion trackers, weapons and SPI armor. This would give the Spartans a definite long range advantage over the Aliens who lack the an ability to retaliate at range.



Actually...Aliens can spit acid, like a spitting cobra.

  • 07.01.2011 9:34 AM PDT


Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: Xd00999
Really close fight, it could go either way depending on what happens.
If the Aliens are feeling tricky, they could hide and ambush the Spartans, possibly killing them. This is a whole hive after all, chances are that the Spartans would suffer some losses.
Spartans have motion trackers, weapons and SPI armor. This would give the Spartans a definite long range advantage over the Aliens who lack the an ability to retaliate at range.



Actually...Aliens can spit acid, like a spitting cobra.


Only a few of them can, not all of them.

Seriously, you guys are exaggerating the Aliens power to the point where I'm almost laughing. An Alien took a shotgun blast to the face and lived? That's funny, I remember a Marine doing that to a Xeno in Aliens and it tore his whole face clean off.

I also remember an Alien getting flattened by an APC. He didn't last long either.

And do you have any idea how fast Spartans actually are? Without armor, they run at about 55 kph. With it, they can virtually not be seen.

Now I know Aliens use sonar, so to speak, like bats. Echolocation. I also know they're notoriously fast. But they take far too long to kill their prey. They hunt them down. Spartans are significantly faster killers. If they see an Alien, which their combined motion tracker/augmented eyesight (which allows them to see in the dark) would let them see them, the Alien will die.

And should a face hugger come hurtling towards a Spartan, either his shields will refuse to let it grip onto it, or the Spartan will pry it off.

Aliens also like to tackele their prey. You really think a SApartan will just sit there and let it do that? He'd toss it across the room.

Aliens are also terrified of fire. All the SIIIs need is a flame thrower and some assault rifles and they're set.

I mean honestly. You're both overselling the standard Alien Warrior, and underselling the Spartans.

  • 07.01.2011 10:04 AM PDT

Posted by: Pewter

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Posted by: SergeantLemon25
Don't forget that the flood can infect them too.


Nope. And the only reason those win is because they are like 50x larger. If they were both the same size... guess who's getting torn a new a$$hole?


sorry to burst your bubble, but most Zerg and Tyranid beasties have ranged attacks of some sort. A Nid Warrior and Hydralisk shrunk a little can still give a Xeno more holes to bleed from.

The Zerg is what a Xeno wants to be when it hits puberty, the Tyranids is what the Xenos Desperately want to be when they grow up.

The only thing the Xenos could claim at being better at(besides dying of course) is bein Immune to the flood, rather than just being very hard to infect.


You obviously ignored my most recent post. Here, allow me to quote it for you, so you don't have to spend exponential brainpower attempting to do it yourself.


In Aliens: Genesis and Alien Warrior ran full speed into the side of an APC full-throttle and almost toppled it, I'd say that's pretty much neck-in-neck with a SPARTAN in full armor, imagine how badly one would lose if he were unarmored.

In Aliens: Berserkers, the title characters, Berserkers, are special ops forces that wear power armor that allows them the strength and speed equivalent to that of an Alien Warrior, and they easily tore through that and tore the operator's head off.

I would have to say in hand to hand combat SPARTANS pale miserably. And even if you give them a gun, Xenomorphs still possess superior numbers, enough to overwhelm the Spartans.

In case you haven't noticed, almost every time Marines encounter Xenomorphs in the Alien films, they are always killed down to the last two or three people, some of the time, the rest of the time they just all die. In Halo the Marines almost always come out of a Covenant engagement with half of their squad alive most of the time.


In hand to hand combat Aliens win everytime.

  • 07.04.2011 4:22 PM PDT

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obviously, the ludicrously overpowered races of Warhammer 40K would win, except for maybe the orks and tau.

but back on topic. I think the SIII would get ambushed too much in an Alien hive. Even if the Aliens lose 3 individuals popping out of air vents to kill one SIII, attrition would take its toll. Though, if every SIII were a hyper-lethal vector like Noble 6, then that might be different

  • 07.04.2011 5:16 PM PDT

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