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Subject: Are there the same model or different variants?

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Is this, the exact same model as this? Or are they different variants/models?

  • 06.30.2011 2:08 PM PDT

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No...if I am correct the first is a MA5Band the second is a MA37. They are just different models.

  • 06.30.2011 2:10 PM PDT

Different. A MA5B is not a MA37. If it was it would be called a MA37.

  • 06.30.2011 2:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sniffy66
Different. A MA5B is not a MA37. If it was it would be called a MA37.
People tell me that it's just the army's name of it, and the navy call it MA5b.

  • 06.30.2011 2:12 PM PDT

MA37 and MA5B are in the same line of assault rifles.

The army uses the 37, the navy the 5(b-c).

  • 06.30.2011 2:14 PM PDT

S.H.E

But they're not the same model? I'm asking because of the MA37 in CEA trailer.

  • 06.30.2011 2:18 PM PDT

S.H.E

Hello? I need confirmation.

  • 06.30.2011 2:31 PM PDT

S.H.E

But if they're different models/variant's what those this mean?

[Edited on 07.01.2011 5:01 AM PDT]

  • 07.01.2011 4:57 AM PDT

S.H.E

Bump

  • 07.01.2011 7:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: siggibiggy
But if they're different models/variant's what those this mean?
The MA37 (MA5 for Marines and Navy) first entered service with the UNSC in 2437, it has remained the primary service rifle of all branches of the UNSC ever since.

The MA37 series is Army. The MA5 series is Navy. Halo CE's AR is the MA5B variant of the MA5 series.

Also, don't bump your thread. You were given your answer already.

Bungie makes a distinction because they recognize that their weapons look marginally different from eachother between their games.

In Halo 3, they refer to the AR as "MA5C ICWS". Again, this is purely because of the visual and handling differences and that Bungie wanted to ensure that their fans were not confused thinking they were the exact same.


Posted by: siggibiggy
But they're not the same model? I'm asking because of the MA37 in CEA trailer.

343 Industries is just using the Reach graphic engine and -- perhaps -- placeholder models for weapons/characters for the trailer so that they could get it out there in time for E3. They still have a little time before the game goes gold to implement new models, but I think it may be unlikely that will happen.

It should be noted that the soldiers seen in CEA are Army and not Navy, which is totally different from the original Halo CE, so perhaps 343i are retconning on that.

[Edited on 07.01.2011 7:14 AM PDT]

  • 07.01.2011 7:11 AM PDT

S.H.E

What about the fact that in Halo Reach, the MA37 clearly say's MA5C on the side of it?

I hate when retcon thing's just because they wanted to put in that and that. IMO M37 was never needed, and would have prevented alot of confusion.

Reach was pure confusion.

The reason why i bumped it was because i never got a confirmation on that it was to different model's.

[Edited on 07.01.2011 7:23 AM PDT]

  • 07.01.2011 7:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: siggibiggy
What about the fact that in Halo Reach, the MA37 clearly say's MA5C on the side of it?
That's called the art team not communicating with the writing/PR team.

  • 07.01.2011 7:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: SonicJohn

Posted by: siggibiggy
What about the fact that in Halo Reach, the MA37 clearly say's MA5C on the side of it?
That's called the art team not communicating with the writing/PR team.
If they never made MA37 and just keept MA5B we wouldn't have this problem, and it would even fix(Reach broke it) the connection between Halo wars.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6980/690pxar.jpg

  • 07.01.2011 7:41 AM PDT

King of the Dark

Dude they are the same rifle ! One just uses bigger bullets than the other !

  • 07.01.2011 8:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: King Dark604
Dude they are the same rifle ! One just uses bigger bullets than the other !
WRONG! They both use 7,62x51 nato.
Don't talk about thing's you don't know.

[Edited on 07.01.2011 8:12 AM PDT]

  • 07.01.2011 8:11 AM PDT


Posted by: siggibiggy

Posted by: SonicJohn

Posted by: siggibiggy
What about the fact that in Halo Reach, the MA37 clearly say's MA5C on the side of it?
That's called the art team not communicating with the writing/PR team.
If they never made MA37 and just keept MA5B we wouldn't have this problem, and it would even fix(Reach broke it) the connection between Halo wars.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6980/690pxar.jpg


dude there is no problem relax. One is for Army and one is for Navy I don't know why your so upset. I like it like that it gives Halo more of a real life feel. Do you know how many version of the m4/m16 there are?

  • 07.01.2011 8:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: immadchill

Posted by: siggibiggy

Posted by: SonicJohn

Posted by: siggibiggy
What about the fact that in Halo Reach, the MA37 clearly say's MA5C on the side of it?
That's called the art team not communicating with the writing/PR team.
If they never made MA37 and just keept MA5B we wouldn't have this problem, and it would even fix(Reach broke it) the connection between Halo wars.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6980/690pxar.jpg


dude there is no problem relax. One is for Army and one is for Navy I don't know why your so upset. I like it like that it gives Halo more of a real life feel. Do you know how many version of the m4/m16 there are?
Not nearly as many as for the MA series.

  • 07.01.2011 9:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: siggibiggy
What about the fact that in Halo Reach, the MA37 clearly say's MA5C on the side of it?

To be more specific, it says "MA5C Mark 4" indicating that it's different than the MA5C ICWS

Posted by: siggibiggy
Not nearly as many as for the MA series.

Actually, there are dude.

MA Series
MA1
MA2B
MA3A
MA5 Series
>MA37
>MA5B
>MA5C
>MA5K


Variants of the M4/M16
M4 MWS
M4A1
Mark 18 CQBR
SOPMOD Block I
SOPMOD Block II
SOPMOD Block III

Pre-Production ArmaLite AR-15
AR-15 (Colt Models 601 & 602)
M16
XM16E1 and M16A1 (Colt Model 603)
M16A2
M16A3
M16A4
Derivatives
Colt Model 655 and 656 "Sniper" variants
XM177
Colt Model 733
M231 Firing Port Weapon (FPW)
Mk 4 Mod 0
Mark 12
M4 carbine

[Edited on 07.01.2011 9:54 AM PDT]

  • 07.01.2011 9:41 AM PDT


Posted by: jack0fhearts
Posted by: siggibiggy
What about the fact that in Halo Reach, the MA37 clearly say's MA5C on the side of it?

To be more specific, it says "MA5C Mark 4" indicating that it's different than the MA5C ICWS

Posted by: siggibiggy
Not nearly as many as for the MA series.

Actually, there are dude.

MA Series
MA1
MA2B
MA3A
MA5 Series
>MA37
>MA5B
>MA5C
>MA5K


Variants of the M4/M16
M4 MWS
M4A1
Mark 18 CQBR
SOPMOD Block I
SOPMOD Block II
SOPMOD Block III

Pre-Production ArmaLite AR-15
AR-15 (Colt Models 601 & 602)
M16
XM16E1 and M16A1 (Colt Model 603)
M16A2
M16A3
M16A4
Derivatives
Colt Model 655 and 656 "Sniper" variants
XM177
Colt Model 733
M231 Firing Port Weapon (FPW)
Mk 4 Mod 0
Mark 12
M4 carbine


The sad part is I can recite these by memory haha

  • 07.01.2011 10:23 AM PDT

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Posted by: immadchill

Posted by: jack0fhearts
Posted by: siggibiggy
What about the fact that in Halo Reach, the MA37 clearly say's MA5C on the side of it?

To be more specific, it says "MA5C Mark 4" indicating that it's different than the MA5C ICWS

Posted by: siggibiggy
Not nearly as many as for the MA series.

Actually, there are dude.

MA Series
MA1
MA2B
MA3A
MA5 Series
>MA37
>MA5B
>MA5C
>MA5K


Variants of the M4/M16
M4 MWS
M4A1
Mark 18 CQBR
SOPMOD Block I
SOPMOD Block II
SOPMOD Block III

Pre-Production ArmaLite AR-15
AR-15 (Colt Models 601 & 602)
M16
XM16E1 and M16A1 (Colt Model 603)
M16A2
M16A3
M16A4
Derivatives
Colt Model 655 and 656 "Sniper" variants
XM177
Colt Model 733
M231 Firing Port Weapon (FPW)
Mk 4 Mod 0
Mark 12
M4 carbine


The sad part is I can recite these by memory haha


Damn thats alot of guns!
But, I like the fact that there are different models of the tech in halo. I for one think we could all agree the NMPD Pelican looks badass.

[Edited on 07.01.2011 12:01 PM PDT]

  • 07.01.2011 12:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: jack0fhearts
Posted by: siggibiggy
What about the fact that in Halo Reach, the MA37 clearly say's MA5C on the side of it?

To be more specific, it says "MA5C Mark 4" indicating that it's different than the MA5C ICWS

Posted by: siggibiggy
Not nearly as many as for the MA series.

Actually, there are dude.

MA Series
MA1
MA2B
MA3A
MA5 Series
>MA37
>MA5B
>MA5C
>MA5K


Variants of the M4/M16
M4 MWS
M4A1
Mark 18 CQBR
SOPMOD Block I
SOPMOD Block II
SOPMOD Block III

Pre-Production ArmaLite AR-15
AR-15 (Colt Models 601 & 602)
M16
XM16E1 and M16A1 (Colt Model 603)
M16A2
M16A3
M16A4
Derivatives
Colt Model 655 and 656 "Sniper" variants
XM177
Colt Model 733
M231 Firing Port Weapon (FPW)
Mk 4 Mod 0
Mark 12
M4 carbine
Touché.
But i was thinking about the MA weapon's on the Halo Fanon site, there you have ALOT more.

[Edited on 07.01.2011 2:10 PM PDT]

  • 07.01.2011 2:09 PM PDT

S.H.E

There is actully a lot more of the MA than you know about.
You didn't mention this did you?

Damn it. You're evil you know that

[Edited on 07.01.2011 5:05 PM PDT]

  • 07.01.2011 3:50 PM PDT


Posted by: siggibiggy
There is actully a lot more of the MA than you know about.
You didn't mention this did you?

Damn it. You're evil you know that


You do Realize that Fanon isn't canon and the MA5D isn't a Halo weapon, right?

  • 07.01.2011 5:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: immadchill

Posted by: siggibiggy
There is actully a lot more of the MA than you know about.
You didn't mention this did you?

Damn it. You're evil you know that


You do Realize that Fanon isn't canon and the MA5D isn't a Halo weapon, right?
Yeah i do, that's why i called him evil

  • 07.01.2011 6:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: immadchill

Posted by: siggibiggy
There is actully a lot more of the MA than you know about.
You didn't mention this did you?

Damn it. You're evil you know that


You do Realize that Fanon isn't canon and the MA5D isn't a Halo weapon, right?
"lulz"
I suppose it doesn't help that the included picture is what looks to be a photo in someone's back yard of something that looks a bit like a modified, plastic G36 (ref).

:/

[Edited on 07.01.2011 6:11 PM PDT]

  • 07.01.2011 6:09 PM PDT

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