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Subject: Nevermind...lock please
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Please keep in mind that this is my personal opinion. I am not stating this as fact, nor am I thinking that I speak for everyone.

I remember how excited I was for Halo: Reach to be released. I remember how amazed I was after watching the Forge World ViDoc for the first time. I remember purchasing my copy of Halo: Reach, and eagerly feeding my disc to my Xbox 360.

Then, my frustrations began. I, among many others, became annoyed with the implementation of Armor Lock, bloom, etc. Now, I don't know why, but for some reason, I didn't mind Armor Lock in the beta. Maybe it was spammed less, or maybe I was just delusional, because at the time, Halo: Reach was claimed to be the "definitive" Halo.

I also realized that the maps were at the lowest standard they had ever been in the series. Sword Base is probably the worst map I have ever played in the entire series. Even though Forge World is still great, it has been a letdown for me because all of the maps feel the same to me (as in, they're all too grey).

I finally had had enough. I stopped playing Reach, and went back to Halo 3. After a while, I realized that I was having much more fun than I had in Reach. I don't know what it was, but my playing experience felt so much better. Reach was just...frustrating, with all of the gimmicky gameplay. However, that is nearly non-existent in Halo 3, and things just feel a lot smoother to me.

So, as time goes by, I stop playing Reach around Christmas. Eventually my Xbox Live subscription expires. This week, I finally renewed it.

I decide to pop in my Halo 3 disc, and it is the same as I remember it being (which is good). I then pop in my Halo: Reach disc, hoping that I will have a more enjoyable playing experience. Honestly, it is, more or less, the same as I remember when I left it. Don't get me wrong, the expansion of the playlists have been terrific, but the core playing experience still feels the same to me, which is the original reason why I stopped playing in the first place (the Armor Lock spammers, the campers, etc.).

I tried to adapt, honestly. But I failed. It's a shame that Bungie decided to change the core gameplay by releasing Reach. It's not necessarily a bad thing to try something new, but why fix something that's not broken?

I am not ready to give up on Reach yet, but I can hardly ever play this game for more than an hour at a time without becoming bored or frustrated.

TL;DR: Halo: Reach is incredibly frustrating, filled with gimmicks, and is far from the "definitive" Halo it is claimed to be. Halo 3, meanwhile, is more smooth, gimmick-free, and is an overall better playing experience.

As mentioned earlier, this is my personal opinion. I don't speak for everyone. If you disagree with me, please do so in a respectful manner.



[Edited on 06.30.2011 10:10 PM PDT]

  • 06.30.2011 7:12 PM PDT
Subject: It's a shame that most of the population left for Halo: Reach.

Okay.

That's absolutely fine.

Don't like the game? Adapt. Or, better yet, stop playing a game that you obviously aren't enjoying.

As for me, I like Halo 3 and Halo Reach equally. Both for different reasons.

  • 06.30.2011 8:01 PM PDT

I miss Halo. Maybe Halo 4 will change that.

Edit: Lol nope

I'm glad Reach is different. I personally got bored near the end of Halo 3 and I would be bored now if Reach was anything like it. I agree that it can be annoying but I have realised that if it wasn't annoying and different, it would be boring.

  • 06.30.2011 8:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: freakyBOY
Okay.

That's absolutely fine.

Don't like the game? Adapt. Or, better yet, stop playing a game that you obviously aren't enjoying.

As for me, I like Halo 3 and Halo Reach equally. Both for different reasons.

Thanks for replying in a mature way...not. Oh, and thanks for bothering to read my post. I don't think you would have needed to tell me that I need to adapt if I already mentioned that I tried to in my post.

  • 06.30.2011 9:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: rraaaaawwwwwwwr
I'm glad Reach is different. I personally got bored near the end of Halo 3 and I would be bored now if Reach was anything like it. I agree that it can be annoying but I have realised that if it wasn't annoying and different, it would be boring.

I guess it's a nice change in pace for those who felt Halo 3 was getting stale. I can respect your opinion. By they way, thanks for replying in a mature way and not flaming me.

  • 06.30.2011 9:03 PM PDT

nice copy and paste we dont care

  • 07.01.2011 2:07 AM PDT
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I play games for gameplay, not silly gimmicks

H3 MM warrior

Reach S7, 8 and 9 arena warrior.

H4 MM legend

reach lacks the aspect of fun that H3 has. The real problem with reach is that bloom and jet pack ruin the skill gap in arena. The fact that your arena rank doesnt show your rank in anything but arena turns some people off as well, though personally doesnt affect me. The lowered skill gap is infuriating, and the added randomness just makes the game less enjoyable, especially to those who are actually good at the game.

  • 07.01.2011 2:11 AM PDT
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I'm listeni- Oh wait I don't give a -blam!- what you have to say.

Bloom is hands-down the worst feature they could have possibly implemented.

Bloom needs to go completely, it cannot be 'fixed'. Halo's kill times are too long, therefore spamming has an increased risk of being more effective, especially when the only variating damage zones are the head and the rest of the body.

It has to go.

  • 07.01.2011 2:33 AM PDT
Subject: Nevermind...lock please
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i agree halo reach is frustrating at times and different then halo 3 but i think halo reach is uniqe in its own way just like halo 3

  • 07.01.2011 3:36 AM PDT
Subject: It's a shame that most of the population left for Halo: Reach.

I miss Halo. Maybe Halo 4 will change that.

Edit: Lol nope


Posted by: meagsIZbeast
reach lacks the aspect of fun that H3 has. The real problem with reach is that bloom and jet pack ruin the skill gap in arena. The fact that your arena rank doesnt show your rank in anything but arena turns some people off as well, though personally doesnt affect me. The lowered skill gap is infuriating, and the added randomness just makes the game less enjoyable, especially to those who are actually good at the game.


True. I find it hard to play competitively in Reach, which is why I spend most my time in BTB. But I did this in Halo 3 also after I got bored with ranked.

Maybe I'm just a BTB noob :)

  • 07.01.2011 8:59 AM PDT


Posted by: rraaaaawwwwwwwr
I'm glad Reach is different. I personally got bored near the end of Halo 3 and I would be bored now if Reach was anything like it. I agree that it can be annoying but I have realised that if it wasn't annoying and different, it would be boring.

HOLY CRAP! I'd be bored too if I played 15,000 games. Mother of God o_O

Can you imagine playing that much of Halo Reach? I'd jump out the window of my house by then.

  • 07.01.2011 9:16 AM PDT

As the wave of emotion of the Flood attack washed over me something inside turned cold and although I had been effectively killing Covenant for a long time, a new steel was forged within me... I knew that to get out alive I had to kill every last one of these S.O.B's. I did it, stole the index from the library and blew up the ring world known as Halo, but I knew this wasn't the end... It was only just beginning.

I like Reach, but I also love Halo 3 a lot. I jump in between both games. I think for the next week Ill be on Reach though, because I won too many Matchmaking games so im banned for the week.

  • 07.01.2011 10:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: KILLMASTER5
nice copy and paste we dont care

I don't recall copy and pasting my post. And if you don't care, then why the hell even bother replying?

  • 07.01.2011 11:07 AM PDT
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Posted by: Frasier Crane
Bloom is hands-down the worst feature they could have possibly implemented.

Bloom needs to go completely, it cannot be 'fixed'. Halo's kill times are too long, therefore spamming has an increased risk of being more effective, especially when the only variating damage zones are the head and the rest of the body.

It has to go.

I completely agree. Now that 343 Industries is going to take over Reach, I'm not sure if they would consider tweaking bloom, or removing it altogether.

Bloom seemed like a pretty good idea originally, but it was horribly implemented into Reach.

  • 07.01.2011 11:09 AM PDT