Bungie.net Community
This topic has moved here: Subject: Badly done, Community. Badly done indeed.
  • Subject: Badly done, Community. Badly done indeed.
Subject: Badly done, Community. Badly done indeed.

Posted by: Darth1Snyder
Everytime someone sacks my groceries, I think of Loaf.

Posted by: Xeno Prodigy
+1

  • 06.30.2011 11:53 PM PDT

Delta. Alpha. November. Indigo. Echo. Lima.

Posted by: macragge
What would you expect from a bunch of 15 year olds with mummy's credit cards?

I like it how you're blaming it on the 15 year-olds when actually a lot of whiners will have been grown men out to score themselves a collectible. Get your attitude sorted out, mr. Elitist.

On topic: Well said.

[Edited on 06.30.2011 11:56 PM PDT]

  • 06.30.2011 11:56 PM PDT

READ IT.

I won the Star. With this on Week 18.

Yep, these things bring out the worst in people.

  • 06.30.2011 11:57 PM PDT

Perfection!


Posted by: Donut Funn

Sorry, but when someone makes a topic that basically says, "Bungie may have handled today's situation terribly and disappointed many fans, BUT AT LEAST DEY R SO NIEC WE SHUD STILL BEEE NIEC 2 DEM RITE GAIZ!!", my fanboys alert goes weewooweewoo.

Edit: Oh and before you flame me for being butthurt or something, I in fact luckily aquired a swag bag from the bungie store at like 6.


I remember seeing you around the forums today, you were talking about how you were literally in tears over how you hadn't gotten a bag yet. You are the exact kind of immature, self-entitled, ignorant, rude, ungrateful child that OP is talking about. I am very disappointed to see that you have acquired one, because you have robbed a true fan of a great gift.

  • 06.30.2011 11:59 PM PDT


Posted by: Alex the Awesome
Yep, these things bring out the worst in people.


Agreed, this is natural human behavior. Some people just have better self control than others.

  • 07.01.2011 12:00 AM PDT


Posted by: Giants31

Posted by: Donut Funn

Sorry, but when someone makes a topic that basically says, "Bungie may have handled today's situation terribly and disappointed many fans, BUT AT LEAST DEY R SO NIEC WE SHUD STILL BEEE NIEC 2 DEM RITE GAIZ!!", my fanboys alert goes weewooweewoo.

Edit: Oh and before you flame me for being butthurt or something, I in fact luckily aquired a swag bag from the bungie store at like 6.


I remember seeing you around the forums today, you were talking about how you were literally in tears over how you hadn't gotten a bag yet. You are the exact kind of immature, self-entitled, ignorant, rude, ungrateful child that OP is talking about. I am very disappointed to see that you have acquired one, because you have robbed a true fan of a great gift.


No need to be hatin on the fellow. Plus it won't make a difference as you said he's ignorant. And he's probably too old to change, his personality is set for life now. So that's who he is and we need to learn to accept each other.

  • 07.01.2011 12:04 AM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

OP I just can't help but question why you had to create this topic. It's disrespecting the community when the community has a justifiable reason to be mad and has absolutely no positive discussion value, and you should know all of this if you had any common sense.

The games, services, and support we bought from Bungie in the past 20 years is just as irrelevant to mention as the fact it was for charity. We expect Bungie to, as a community, keep us updated on their operations and they failed to meet our expectations this time.

Sure some people took this too far by creating threads and spamming the forums, but don't be too quick to say you aren't one of those people. You took it just as far as the other people by creating a thread instigating those people.

PS. I was not interested in the swag bag, or any items in the Bungie store.

[Edited on 07.01.2011 12:19 AM PDT]

  • 07.01.2011 12:11 AM PDT

HALO 2 FOREVER - M.I.A.

Yes i have a Twitter and yes i voice my opinion.

Today was a full day of spam. I for once actually did get tired of reporting repeated threads and insulting posts just in this forum alone. I have not even gone to the reach forum yet.

The respect of the community is shown in the 200+ threads about the swag just in the last 3 days is not what this community should have been able to see or even come close to being.

Even when i kept trying to talk about a problem that no one seems to answer I just about started to post replies to the various threads that insulted Bungie for their lack of swag items and the so called DDOS moment that was caused by the million users who kept hitting their F5 on one page.

Rumors and unjust comments from people who should have never said anything and i even found one MYTHIC MEMBER who reminded me that there is still children who think they are gods of this community just cause they have the rank.

I never did care for the swag cause the odds were going to be against me from the start let alone the odds of getting certain items in it. Not to mention that amazon screwed me already years ago so be attempting to get the swag in the first place would never had happen. (You can search my recent posts for that info. Im not posting it again.)

I think the words from HALO REACH says "ULTRA MATURE FOURMS" is actually shown in the last 3 days as a full blow pile of bull -blam!- with a very huge cherry on top.


Now for the TL;DR ... "YOUR LAZY. READ MY POST."

  • 07.01.2011 12:16 AM PDT


Posted by: JewBallzs
OP I just can't help but question why you had to create this topic. It's disrespecting the community when the community has a justifiable reason to be mad and has absolutely no positive discussion value, and you should know all of this if you had any common sense.

The games, services, and support b]we bought[/b] from Bungie in the past 20 years is just as irrelevant to mention as the fact it was for charity. We expect Bungie to, as a community, keep us updated on their operations and they failed to meet our expectations this time.

Sure some people took this too far by creating threads and spamming the forums, but don't be too quick to say you aren't one of those people. You took it just as far as the other people by creating a thread instigating those people.

PS. I was not interested in the swag bag, or any items in the Bungie store.


Because he realizes what is important in life and isn't materialistic . The community consists of how many people? And there are 777 bags, majority of the people had almost no chance of snagging a bag. So, people should have never expected to even get one, but only hoped b/c of their low chances. They shouldn't even be mad at bungie, if anything its actually amazon that caused this whole incident. And since when did bungie have to meet every single person's expectations? Bungie didn't even have to do this, so everyone just needs to appreciate that bungie tried. After all I don't think anyone could've done better.

  • 07.01.2011 12:19 AM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:


Posted by: Sykodelic Ninja

Posted by: JewBallzs
OP I just can't help but question why you had to create this topic. It's disrespecting the community when the community has a justifiable reason to be mad and has absolutely no positive discussion value, and you should know all of this if you had any common sense.

The games, services, and support we bought from Bungie in the past 20 years is just as irrelevant to mention as the fact it was for charity. We expect Bungie to, as a community, keep us updated on their operations and they failed to meet our expectations this time.

Sure some people took this too far by creating threads and spamming the forums, but don't be too quick to say you aren't one of those people. You took it just as far as the other people by creating a thread instigating those people.

PS. I was not interested in the swag bag, or any items in the Bungie store.


Because he realizes what is important in life and isn't materialistic . The community consists of how many people? And there are 777 bags, majority of the people had almost no chance of snagging a bag. So, people should have never expected to even get one, but only hoped b/c of their low chances. They shouldn't even be mad at bungie, if anything its actually amazon that caused this whole incident. And since when did bungie have to meet every single person's expectations? Bungie didn't even have to do this, so everyone just needs to appreciate that bungie tried. After all I don't think anyone could've done better.


Why does materialism have to be involved? If somebody wants to buy a product the appropriate service should come with it. That's such a pathetic point to bring up, I don't know where to start.

Sure Bungie didn't have to do this, but they did. Trying is not good enough from a business standpoint, especially from a company that is so well respected and has such high expectations.

"And since when did bungie have to meet every single person's expectations"

A 10 year old could be able to comprehend the fact that a major video game developer has to keep it's customers (or what some call the "community", lol) happy.

"After all I don't think anyone could've done better."

You're implying they did okay, or good, or decent. You're wrong, the way they handled this situation was terrible and in no way positive.

[Edited on 07.01.2011 12:31 AM PDT]

  • 07.01.2011 12:30 AM PDT

I'm awesome...No seriously I am.

I was sad at first when I did not get one. but then I shruged it off and Bought a T-shirt yesterday. cant wait to wear my Blue flames in real life.

Thanks Bungie, I hope to one day work for you. :)

  • 07.01.2011 12:31 AM PDT


Posted by: JewBallzs

Posted by: Sykodelic Ninja

Posted by: JewBallzs
OP I just can't help but question why you had to create this topic. It's disrespecting the community when the community has a justifiable reason to be mad and has absolutely no positive discussion value, and you should know all of this if you had any common sense.

The games, services, and support we bought from Bungie in the past 20 years is just as irrelevant to mention as the fact it was for charity. We expect Bungie to, as a community, keep us updated on their operations and they failed to meet our expectations this time.

Sure some people took this too far by creating threads and spamming the forums, but don't be too quick to say you aren't one of those people. You took it just as far as the other people by creating a thread instigating those people.

PS. I was not interested in the swag bag, or any items in the Bungie store.


Because he realizes what is important in life and isn't materialistic . The community consists of how many people? And there are 777 bags, majority of the people had almost no chance of snagging a bag. So, people should have never expected to even get one, but only hoped b/c of their low chances. They shouldn't even be mad at bungie, if anything its actually amazon that caused this whole incident. And since when did bungie have to meet every single person's expectations? Bungie didn't even have to do this, so everyone just needs to appreciate that bungie tried. After all I don't think anyone could've done better.


Why does materialism have to be involved? If somebody wants to buy a product the appropriate service should come with it. That's such a pathetic point to bring up, I don't know where to start.

Sure Bungie didn't have to do this, but they did. Trying is not good enough from a business standpoint, especially from a company that is so well respected and has such high expectations.

"And since when did bungie have to meet every single person's expectations"

A 10 year old could be able to comprehend the fact that a major video game developer has to keep it's customers (or what some call the "community", lol) happy.

"After all I don't think anyone could've done better."

You're implying they did okay, or good, or decent. You're wrong, the way they handled this situation was terrible and in no way positive.


Unfortunately we have some one that likes to argue.

1.It's not even Bungie's fault, it's amazon's. Their servers crashed and wouldn't allow people to order the bags.

2. 10 year olds complain about alot of things

3. If you don't want one why do you complain/argue/rage/troll

4. Even if people say they hate bungie they will still buy bungie's games, normal people get over stuff like this soon and dont hold 2 year long grudges

5. Its not as easy as saying amazon fix the problem now. Not only do bungie and amazon have to communicate properly, but they also have to do the work and somehow contact the customers. The bungie studios was probably chaos today and everyone was doing something and couldn't get the news out. They tried a quick fix which involved adding a new swag bag for people to order from until Amazon got the original Bag O' Swag working.

6. Many other companies out there wouldn't have even bothered with trying to fix it that much. So all I can say is Bungie did just as good as anyother company or better. So unless Bungie has some godly expectations or something, stop ragin.

Also materialism is brought up because people focus too much on the materials, bags, on the 20th anniversary. This is a celebration, not time to have grown men cry like 6 year olds.

  • 07.01.2011 12:51 AM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:


Posted by: Sykodelic Ninja

Unfortunately we have some one that likes to argue.

You chose to respond my friend.

1.It's not even Bungie's fault, it's amazon's. Their servers crashed and wouldn't allow people to order the bags.

Did Amazon hold Bungie back from making an official announcement?

2. 10 year olds complain about alot of things

Glad to see you agree with me that was a stupid point of yours earlier.

3. If you don't want one why do you complain/argue/rage/troll

It irritates me that the OP has to add to the spam and nobody recognizes it. Disagreeing with somebody and replying back is not a troll. I think the person raging here, is you.

4. Even if people say they hate bungie they will still buy bungie's games, normal people get over stuff like this soon and dont hold 2 year long grudges

Great point. Why did the OP make this thread then if it will die down soon enough?

5. Its not as easy as saying amazon fix the problem now. Not only do bungie and amazon have to communicate properly, but they also have to do the work and somehow contact the customers. The bungie studios was probably chaos today and everyone was doing something and couldn't get the news out. They tried a quick fix which involved adding a new swag bag for people to order from until Amazon got the original Bag O' Swag working.

So out of that paragraph the only thing I could take from it was "everyone was too busy to make an announcement". I can assure you it wasn't hectic at all in the studio. If it truly was, an announcement would've been made.

6. Many other companies out there wouldn't have even bothered with trying to fix it that much. So all I can say is Bungie did just as good as anyother company or better. So unless Bungie has some godly expectations or something, stop ragin.

ungie didn't fix anything. I don't know if you call normal expectations from a developer "godly expectations" or something but this was a very simple expectation.

Also materialism is brought up because people focus too much on the materials, bags, on the 20th anniversary. This is a celebration, not time to have grown men cry like 6 year olds.

People are focusing on the lack of support by Bungie. Bungie has supported each of their games excellently and the customers (community) are awestruck do to the fact Bungie has provided poor support this time.


bold = responds

  • 07.01.2011 1:04 AM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

The part I found the most sickening was posts along the lines of:

"Who gives a blam about the blamming charity, this is all about getting the swag!"

"Blam the kids, no-one gives a blam about them, I just want a blamming bag!"

Which goes completely against the spirit of the whole thing.

The unfettered jealousy and greed shown by some people has been genuinely distressing and I despair for you as human beings. Some people have come across as very ugly today and they should be ashamed of themselves.

It was always limited and there was always going to be people disappointed that's the nature of any limited sale. In hindsight I actually think Bungie would have been better off selling all the bags last week in the first instance and been done with it. People have been given too much false hope, which isn't really Bungie's fault, people just have messed up entitlement/expectation issues.

Y'know what's going to be even worse? Next week, when we get a bunch of spoilt whiny kids coming on saying their swag wasn't as good as someone elses.

  • 07.01.2011 1:12 AM PDT

Fine I just have one last thing to say. Suck it up if you didn't get a bag, it's not the end of the world. Now go win yourself a steak on july 7. And idk what bungie was doing, no one does. I'm just brainstorming, but all I know is that around 277 people are gonna get some bags.

  • 07.01.2011 1:18 AM PDT


Posted by: Shadders
The part I found the most sickening was posts along the lines of:

"Who gives a blam about the blamming charity, this is all about getting the swag!"

"Blam the kids, no-one gives a blam about them, I just want a blamming bag!"

Which goes completely against the spirit of the whole thing.

The unfettered jealousy and greed shown by some people has been genuinely distressing and I despair for you as human beings. Some people have come across as very ugly today and they should be ashamed of themselves.

It was always limited and there was always going to be people disappointed that's the nature of any limited sale. In hindsight I actually think Bungie would have been better off selling all the bags last week in the first instance and been done with it. People have been given too much false hope, which isn't really Bungie's fault, people just have messed up entitlement/expectation issues.

Y'know what's going to be even worse? Next week, when we get a bunch of spoilt whiny kids coming on saying their swag wasn't as good as someone elses.


If I got a bag I wouldn't open it so I could still hope for something good.

  • 07.01.2011 1:19 AM PDT

Coup d'Bungie Admin
Coup Art by Amocin
Facebook: Link | Email: Kodyack@mail.com | SteamID: Kodyack1 | Phone: 320-267-3934 | Skype: Klykaa | Address: 656 Roosevelt Rd. St. Cloud, Minnesota, 56301

The community appears to be like this near every bungie day. Mostly because all the non regs start coming in expecting a large amount of free stuff. They'll go away soon and I'm very sure that Bungie knows not to judge the entire community off of their actions.

  • 07.01.2011 1:26 AM PDT

The problem was the lack of communication from Bungie. It only made people more upset as they didn't know what was going on. With all the moron trolls posting lies, Bungie should have said something.

I say just announce swag availability on via twitter feed at a couple random times. None of this announcing days in advance.

The whole swag bags going back to last week has been a bit of a fail on Bungie's part. They are a developer, not a retailer, so I guess that is to be expected.

  • 07.01.2011 1:29 AM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:


Posted by: Shadders
"Who gives a blam about the blamming charity, this is all about getting the swag!"

"Blam the kids, no-one gives a blam about them, I just want a blamming bag!"



Give an exact quote of each.

Not like it matters though. The fact that is was charity is, in this case, irrelevant.

  • 07.01.2011 1:39 AM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:


Posted by: Sykodelic Ninja
Fine I just have one last thing to say. Suck it up if you didn't get a bag, it's not the end of the world. Now go win yourself a steak on july 7. And idk what bungie was doing, no one does. I'm just brainstorming, but all I know is that around 277 people are gonna get some bags.


It's a good thing you're not a Bungie employee because a simple "suck it up" can't repair the damage caused by Bungie.

  • 07.01.2011 1:47 AM PDT

Posted by: A Bit Of Zero
This thread would have appealed to me more if it was written with crayons.
Posted by: King Dutchy
I broke one of the cords for my X11s because I couldn't get past the final American course in Doritos Crash Course.

Posted by: JewBallzs
Bungie didn't fix anything. I don't know if you call normal expectations from a developer "godly expectations" or something but this was a very simple expectation.

To be fair they did, Amazon crashed because of so many people F5'ing so they moved it to another account so people could still by them, their goal was to provide swag bags for the community and they managed that.
The problem is the people who need their hands to be held the whole way rather than use a bit of initiative. The people who actually worked it out, and you could argue the people who wanted it more even came to the forum to tell everyone they had moved accounts, fair enough people questioned its legitimacy so Halcylon confirmed it for them yet people still smashed at their keyboards in blind confusion.
At the end of the day Bungie sold the swag to the community like they intended, it just happened to go to the more level headed calmer people rather than the other folk who were so caught up in the commotion that they had created they failed to understand what was happening - not Bungie's fault.

[Edited on 07.01.2011 1:57 AM PDT]

  • 07.01.2011 1:56 AM PDT

Only thing I'm coming close to crying about is that I Need a Weapon poster. Wanted that so bad.

I'm trying to score a bag o' swag except I haven't got my hopes up.

  • 07.01.2011 2:23 AM PDT

May 11 will be known as Halo 2 Day for me from now on.

Well Ive been in the Navy since June 25, 2009 and its a fun job right now.

Most of the people that rage on here about the Bag O' Swag are realitively new to the forums and I really dont see them as part of the community yet cause most of them will not be on after Bungie Day... I thought for the most part that the true community of Bungie did the best they could with the situation that had happened...

  • 07.01.2011 3:03 AM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:


Posted by: SkilPhil
At the end of the day Bungie sold the swag to the community like they intended, it just happened to go to the more level headed calmer people rather than the other folk who were so caught up in the commotion that they had created they failed to understand what was happening - not Bungie's fault.


At the end of the day Bungie left the community at awe due to their lack of support and miss-communication with their customers.

Bungie didn't fix anything, because if they did you wouldn't see the massive spam on the forums, this spam thread, or any fanboy spam comments made by people such as yourself. (don't argue your not a fanboy, blaming this mishap 100% on the community is not logical whatsoever)

A simple announcement on the front page or even a blog post is a responsibility that doesn't relate to holding a paying customers hand.

  • 07.01.2011 3:08 AM PDT

Since you cannot do good to all, you are to pay special attention to those who, by the accidents of time, or place, or circumstances, are brought into closer connection with you.
Augustine of Hippo

I can't prove it, but I can say it.
Stephen Colbert

i am not shawn from youtube, I created this username because I thought it was an unique name but if I could change it I would since it did not belong to me originally

I agree OP, why can't we show Bungie we're the best Blam community in the world?

  • 07.01.2011 4:58 AM PDT