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Subject: We had every right to be mad.

When I grow up I want to be bitter and spiteful.

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I find anger to be a fitting response to hype. It is only appropriate that people foolishly hyped up should foolishly become angry.

  • 07.01.2011 11:29 PM PDT

No one's denied they made a mistake. But a lot of people are being a bit more appreciative of what they were trying to do initially.

  • 07.01.2011 11:43 PM PDT

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I agree with you OP.

The whole thing was a big soup sandwich.

  • 07.02.2011 12:20 AM PDT

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My only hope is that whatever else Bungie has in store for us this week is so awesome that people forget about the Swag Bag blunder for a couple days.

  • 07.02.2011 1:05 AM PDT
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I was mad I missed out on the bags o' swag, but I fixed that with a nice signed Acients poster. I was mad they didn't have the burn bright shirts in my size but patients was good to me and they restocked so if i happen to get a bag o' swag in the next wave cuz I heard they only sold 450 out of 777 then hey good for me but I find joy in the hunt.

  • 07.02.2011 1:20 AM PDT

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Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
Cry me a river build me a bridge and get the hell over it. No plan is perfect. Yes it could've been done better. But that kind of thinking is for the birds. Just accept what happened and get on with your life.


Prime example of a typical, stupid, blind fanboy.

  • 07.02.2011 1:23 AM PDT

Yes, there're too many numbers in my name.

Initially, I was upset at Bungie for the confusion about the Bags. Then I noticed the Tweets they posted, and forgave them. Everybody makes mistakes.

  • 07.02.2011 1:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
Cry me a river build me a bridge and get the hell over it. No plan is perfect. Yes it could've been done better. But that kind of thinking is for the birds. Just accept what happened and get on with your life.


Prime example of a typical, stupid, blind fanboy.
Typical generalizing piss faced dick. I'm not the one who spent six -blam!- hours mashing my damn f5 key for some bag of crap.


Tru7h.

  • 07.02.2011 1:45 AM PDT

I sat down looked at the bungie page and saw they were sold out.

Went oh well and refreshed the page a couple times and BAM purchased myself a bag of swag.

Right place and right time baby!

  • 07.02.2011 3:36 AM PDT

Posted by: RighteousTyrant

Posted by: MarXXXisM
Most of us are fine up to that point. We're getting communication and info about what is going on. Then, it gets ugly.

- Swag bags go up on Gorilla. People jump on orders, then hear it is a scam. People ask for confirmation from Bungie and don't get it. Many cancel their orders.

- A new listing goes up in the Bungie Store as well as on Amazon without anyone knowing. When people attempt to purchase, it states that there's none left. People ask if they are sold out again. No communication.

- Even though the listing clearly states 1 per customer, people are bragging how they bought 3, 5, 10, 20 bags. Rumors begin about orders over 1 being cancelled. Again, no communication.

- 4 hours after we're told there's no ETA, Bungie tweets an apology during all the melee telling us Stosh tripped over a cord. Thanks for the slap in the face.

Seems to me that Bungie was just as much out of the loop as the rest of us and that only Amazon knew what was going on.

Bungie was clearly trying to keep folks informed, and then something happened ON AMAZON (not Bungie), and Bungie likely didn't know about it until much later (4 hours later it seems). Then when Bungie did find out, they got back to work trying to get the info out.

That's what I see here, not a company that stayed in touch to a point and then chose to cut off contact and let folks fend for themselves.

Well said. This was pretty much my thoughts on the whole situation as well. Even Urk said that they didn't foresee the overwhelming response to these bags. So how could they know that people would unintentionally cause Amazon to fail? I don't even think Amazon foresaw this or even had this many people on their site at once. It's just one of those situations where you have to have patience and not get all huffy and puffy when things go wrong. It's obvious Bungie had just as little info as we did. I'm sure even Amazon was having just as much trouble.

[Edited on 07.02.2011 4:10 AM PDT]

  • 07.02.2011 4:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: IIIIIII
You have no rights. Play nice. Destiny awaits.

Yes, win!

  • 07.02.2011 5:27 AM PDT

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people were just mad cuz they didnt get one. mistakes were made but it was more amazon than bungies fault. and everyone f5ng, i did it and finalllly actually got a bag at 601 pm cst. woke up at 7am n tried all day, payed off for a lucky few, that was the intention if im not mistaken or they would have made thousands.
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  • 07.02.2011 9:10 AM PDT

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i can't believe people are throwing such a huge fit over this crap. i tried to get one, and couldn't. no big deal, but everybody eles is crying over this. "it's not fair!" -blam!- you, yeah it is. first come, first served, and they are LIMITED.

you know what that means? there's only 777 of them, you don't get one? .......better luck next time

  • 07.02.2011 10:00 AM PDT
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Truthfully no matter how the events went down people were going to be mad they didn't get one and complain about it. Yeah AMAZON messed up and has technical difficultys with the store, but don't come on here and blame bungie.

  • 07.02.2011 10:12 AM PDT

Bungie.net is the only website that has been able to hold my interest for such a long period of time, and I can only imagine there are still many years to come.

Everyone wants a keep sake, well look at all of the other great items that are available in the store. Why don't these disgruntled and upset people go purchase one of the other items that were/are currently available.

It was said these items were limited, so you need to learn to get over it. One day you are going to learn not everything is going to go your way. If it happens not to go in your favour you accept that and move on with your life.

If you really are a fan of Bungie and want to show your support go buy a different item and get over the swag bags. This is for the fans and charity, though really we should be grateful for what Bungie is giving us. How many other game developers would do this for their fans? I can't think of many others.

Also for all those complaining that they have a right to be angry and feel the need to express their anger on the forums:

Rule #2: You have no rights.

  • 07.02.2011 10:22 AM PDT

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When Bungie releases something to the community that is limited and members in the community don't get it, they complain. Bungie knows this and the community should now this. I don't win the lottery with every ticket I purchase, but I don't complain.

  • 07.02.2011 10:26 AM PDT
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I'm a college dropout.

I think there's a good median to be in.

Although, one thing I've noticed about this community is people seem to be caught up in "Be mature! Bungie doesn't NEED to do anything!" This technically IS the case for this situation, but I see it in many other things as well. If some people ask for a site update there's many people that say "We don't NEED to make their job any harder!" What do you mean? They're web developers and you're saying we should ask for them to work on what members of the community want?

I really haven't been following the Swag Bag stuff too much, but treating Bungie like it's your parent and not a company is just stupid in my opinion. "They worked so hard to bring you up to where you are now, and this is how you thank them?!"

[Edited on 07.02.2011 10:35 AM PDT]

  • 07.02.2011 10:34 AM PDT

Dont be shy...
Im sorry for my coup changes but Im new at this.

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  • 07.02.2011 10:37 AM PDT

F..K YOU BUNGIE!

  • 07.02.2011 10:41 AM PDT

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Im still extremely sad about not getting one. Mabey i can use PERSUASION. *starts cooking steak*

  • 07.02.2011 10:51 AM PDT


Posted by: vanert
I think there's a good median to be in.

Although, one thing I've noticed about this community is people seem to be caught up in "Be mature! Bungie doesn't NEED to do anything!" This technically IS the case for this situation, but I see it in many other things as well. If some people ask for a site update there's many people that say "We don't NEED to make their job any harder!" What do you mean? They're web developers and you're saying we should ask for them to work on what members of the community want?

I really haven't been following the Swag Bag stuff too much, but treating Bungie like it's your parent and not a company is just stupid in my opinion. "They worked so hard to bring you up to where you are now, and this is how you thank them?!"


I agree. I also have not followed this swag bag stuff too much, but every time there is even a hint of criticism in someone's posts, it takes all of a few seconds for someone else to post, "Don't complain, Bungie is doing you a favor!", like they have to jump out and defend Bungie every single time someone calls them out for something.

Now I'm not trying to defend all of the complainers on here, because I have seen some people complaining that need to really get over it, but I have seen some legitimate criticisms that get shot down for no other reason than, "Bungie didn't have to do this." I'm just saying that sometimes the people defending Bungie are just as bad as the whiners. There's no reason Bungie can't accept some criticism of what's going on so they can learn from this and do things better if they do anything like this again in the future. Even they have admitted this whole ordeal has been far from perfect.

  • 07.02.2011 10:54 AM PDT


Posted by: SPARTAN 32192
You have every right to be mad, but you have absolutely no right to rage like this.


This.

I know this might sound strange, this being teh interwebz and all, but it is entirely possible to express an emotion of disappointment or anger without looking like a complete jerk and just plain coming off as a spoiled rotten entitled little brat.

Regardless of whether or not you care about charity, this was all for a great cause. Do you want this community to be thought of as the community that pulls through when Bungie offers us the chance to give back to the community? Or do you want to be remembered as the community that whines and cries and overreacts when they don't get their way?

It's okay to feel upset at the events, that's 110% understandable. But a lot of people simply need to grow up.

  • 07.02.2011 10:59 AM PDT

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