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Subject: Where is Jason Jones?

If you actually payed attention to Halo CE's and Halo 2's credits, you will see "Project Lead: Jason Jones".
In my opinion Halo CE and Halo 2 were the best.Terrific storytelling,amazing art,and the missions were dramatic. Halo 3 had a few lapses in story but it was still great. I loved it played it until Reach came out. Reach doesn't really feel as epic as the Master Chief's story, but it does satisfy. What I noticed is that what Halo 3 and Halo:Reach was missing, was Jason Jones. Where is he? In Halo CE and Halo 2 he was there in the credits. He's not in Reach or Halo 3 and those are the ones that have lapses. I'm guessing he's the secret sauce that creates amazing games. Where'd he go? Please don't respond in sarcasm or "-facepalm-" I just need to know.

  • 07.02.2011 10:55 AM PDT

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  • 07.02.2011 10:58 AM PDT

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  • 07.02.2011 10:58 AM PDT

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The missing note easter egg in halo 3 is Jason Jones.

Sorry link is the wrong one. I'll find it then come back


[Edited on 07.02.2011 11:05 AM PDT]

  • 07.02.2011 11:03 AM PDT

I think last we heard he was working on their next big project. Pretty sure he was on one of the more recent ViDocs too. Maybe he'll make an appearance in the ViDoc on Bungie Day too. :)

Other founders/head guys at wildly successful developers take in all the glory and fame and project it outwards, sometimes seeming obnoxious and big headed. One of the things I love about Bungie is that Jason seems incredibly humble and respectable for someone who lead the way for one of the most influential games of the last decade. That's just awesome, I think :)

  • 07.02.2011 11:06 AM PDT

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  • 07.02.2011 11:08 AM PDT

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I cant find a good link but go on google and search halo 3 missing note. You'll see next to where the name is that it's Jason Jones.

  • 07.02.2011 11:12 AM PDT


Posted by: ricky99
I cant find a good link but go on google and search halo 3 missing note. You'll see next to where the name is that it's Jason Jones.


Badabing, Badaboom:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRw-G5YYV9I

Kid in the video: "This is a guy that made Halo 3...I think...Jason Jones."

LOL

  • 07.02.2011 11:21 AM PDT

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Probably making games. He doesn't really appear in the limelight much, being quite a recluse.

  • 07.02.2011 11:34 AM PDT

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Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are destiny.

If I had to guess, he's in Seattle.
Where he lives.

  • 07.02.2011 12:18 PM PDT

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.

Jason Jones is hot.

  • 07.02.2011 12:19 PM PDT
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  • 07.02.2011 12:30 PM PDT
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Whoo.

Pretty sure he's still right there working on the whole thing.

  • 07.02.2011 12:32 PM PDT

I'll have the roast duck . . . with the mango salsa.

If you watch special edition material of H2 and VidDocs of H3, he makes it clear he was done with Halo at H2. Also, he kinda let on his hate for M$ for making Bungie continue with the series. I'm also quite sure he was the inspiration behind the "here's Halo, now give us our company back" deal.

I remember another bungie guy said in one of those videos that he had Maranda Keys kicking MC down a bottomless shaft due to a breakup he was going through thanks to the H2 crunch.

I'm sure he's off making awesome happen.

  • 07.02.2011 12:36 PM PDT
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Whoo.


Posted by: jasonstigall
If you watch special edition material of H2 and VidDocs of H3, he makes it clear he was done with Halo at H2. Also, he kinda let on his hate for M$ for making Bungie continue with the series. I'm also quite sure he was the inspiration behind the "here's Halo, now give us our company back" deal.

I remember another bungie guy said in one of those videos that he had Maranda Keys kicking MC down a bottomless shaft due to a breakup he was going through thanks to the H2 crunch.

I'm sure he's off making awesome happen.

Which videos said those things?
They sound rather interesting.

  • 07.02.2011 12:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: acnboy34
Jason Jones is hot.

He ranks 16,000,000 on the scoville scale.

  • 07.02.2011 12:52 PM PDT

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Deciding whether or not body count will be in his new IP.

*Warning - Mature Language and all that*

  • 07.02.2011 1:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: jasonstigall
If you watch special edition material of H2 and VidDocs of H3, he makes it clear he was done with Halo at H2. Also, he kinda let on his hate for M$ for making Bungie continue with the series. I'm also quite sure he was the inspiration behind the "here's Halo, now give us our company back" deal.

I remember another bungie guy said in one of those videos that he had Maranda Keys kicking MC down a bottomless shaft due to a breakup he was going through thanks to the H2 crunch.

I'm sure he's off making awesome happen.
Yep, all correct. He still is working at Bungie and it's pretty much assumed that he's the project lead on the new IP.

Proof here.

  • 07.02.2011 1:08 PM PDT

Are there any videos up on youtube of those vidocs? I type in "Halo 2 Special Edition Vidocs" and all I get is Halo Reach videos. If you can find that interview somewhere on the vast and dark interwebz, can you send me a link? Much appreciated

  • 07.02.2011 1:09 PM PDT


Posted by: Punks with Hymns
Are there any videos up on youtube of those vidocs? I type in "Halo 2 Special Edition Vidocs" and all I get is Halo Reach videos. If you can find that interview somewhere on the vast and dark interwebz, can you send me a link? Much appreciated

There are some on Bungie's channel.
THIS VIDEO is a really good video from a year ago with Jason Jones and others talking about the next ten years. Highly recommended viewing.

  • 07.02.2011 1:12 PM PDT
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Whoo.

Posted by: dibbs089
Deciding whether or not body count will be in his new IP.

*Warning - Mature Language and all that*

Body count?
Wait, is he saying that your kill count will be inaccessable to you?

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  • 07.02.2011 1:15 PM PDT


Posted by: jasonstigall
If you watch special edition material of H2 and VidDocs of H3, he makes it clear he was done with Halo at H2. Also, he kinda let on his hate for M$ for making Bungie continue with the series. I'm also quite sure he was the inspiration behind the "here's Halo, now give us our company back" deal.

I remember another bungie guy said in one of those videos that he had Maranda Keys kicking MC down a bottomless shaft due to a breakup he was going through thanks to the H2 crunch.

I'm sure he's off making awesome happen.

Why was he so anti-continuing the Halo story? An ownership issue? They don't want to put their life work into something that at the end of the day, Microsoft is going to decide its destiny and monetize the heck out of it?

  • 07.02.2011 1:16 PM PDT

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I heard he found a way into a small space in the walls and lived in there for a few years. The only way to entice him out was to move the studio. I hear he has since found a way into the ceiling at the new place and throws raisins at people as they walk by.

  • 07.02.2011 1:24 PM PDT

I'll have the roast duck . . . with the mango salsa.

I think he (and bungie as a whole) just wanted to move on to new things. Bungie had been working on Halo (in various forms) for at least 6 or 7 years by the time H2 launched. Then they had to support XBLive's flagship title with content creation and playlist support. Not to mention he (JASON JONES) never wanted Halo to be another FPS, but rather a RTS or 3rd person shooter. He was dead set against the idea of making another FPS anfter 3 Marathon games. Again, go back and watch videos involving the development of H:CE (to earliest forms to MacWorld to launch). I'm glad we have what we have created by bungie.
I also know that as a result of the Halo "distraction" (as Jones seems to have seen it) whatever we will get from him and bungie next will be as well thought out and executed as Halo was in CE and 2. I agree with OP, they were the best games.

  • 07.02.2011 1:48 PM PDT
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Whoo.

Posted by: jasonstigall
I think he (and bungie as a whole) just wanted to move on to new things. Bungie had been working on Halo (in various forms) for at least 6 or 7 years by the time H2 launched. Then they had to support XBLive's flagship title with content creation and playlist support. Not to mention he (JASON JONES) never wanted Halo to be another FPS, but rather a RTS or 3rd person shooter. He was dead set against the idea of making another FPS anfter 3 Marathon games. Again, go back and watch videos involving the development of H:CE (to earliest forms to MacWorld to launch). I'm glad we have what we have created by bungie.
I also know that as a result of the Halo "distraction" (as Jones seems to have seen it) whatever we will get from him and bungie next will be as well thought out and executed as Halo was in CE and 2. I agree with OP, they were the best games.

Yeah, I dunno, that doesn't sound right.

I mean yeah Halo did start out as a RTS but that was only for a very short while and it was quickly changed to a TPS, it was basically them messing around saying "Hey, what should our new game be" and they thought against it, if Bungie wanted to make a RTS then Halo would most probably have been a RTS it wouldn't have changed into a shooter.

Now there's the whole TPS thing, I'm going to argue that a TPS and a FPS aren't all that immensely different which means if he was that adamant about not making Halo another FPS then he wouldn't have wanted it to just be another shooter either, and again if he wanted it to just be a TPS it probably would have stayed that way.

I think altogether if Jason REALLY like REALLY REALLY didn't want it to be a FPS it wouldn't have been one, he is the project lead after all, I mean he could have been against it but in the end he still let it happen so ... you know.

Now why a FPS? Well that is most probably because they just thought it would have fit in best with their goals, with the Halo world they're creating, with drawing in a good crowd when making that "killer app" and with making a fun game that they also enjoy.


I do however agree that I think Bungie, or Jason Jones, was intending Halo to just be for a 5-7 year timespan. I mean I don't think from the CE stages they were planning for Reach and ODST and excetera but they was planning till the end of Halo 3, till the end of their story arc assuming CE took off like it did.

Now, why 5-7 years? This is because Bungie was originally planning to end the Ark at Halo 2, or at least the trilogy as we now know it, but due to time constraints they were incapable and they had to cut Halo 2 short with that cliff-Hangar. Now if they had that extra time then Halo 2 would have been released 2005+ and the trilogy would be over.

Then after all that they'd continue their ten year contract with microsoft making a brand new franchise, the problem being that Halo was microsoft's biggest money maker so they didn't want Bungie to make a new franchise and spread their creative fingers, they just wanted Bungie to rake in the cash.

Now I'm not sure how to continue my main point so I'm going to tangent into smaller points.

Halo 2 isn't well thought out and executed, well it could be well thought out but they didn't have the time to polish out all the details, they couldn't make everything how they were intending it because of the time crunch during developement and they had to cut corners and blah blah blah and Bungie actually see it as abit of a disaster.

Sure it's the best selling game of all time for the original xbox and people played it for a solid month when it was going down and players like you and me had immense fun on it, but it was still a mess, badly put together and broken in many ways.

Of course this isn't Bungie's fault, they worked as hard as they could and did what they could but that doesn't stop it from being a mess, it was broken and unfinished and a mess.

Halo 3 is actually what Halo 2 was supposed to be like, Halo 3 is basically Halo 2 if it was actually allowed to be finished, it's just a polished up Halo 2 and it was much better executed than Halo 2.


I have a load more tangents to go on but the more I type the more I'm losing track of what I want to say, what I've said and what I'm about to say so I'm going to stop here and take a break.

  • 07.02.2011 2:33 PM PDT

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