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PS: If you are reading this comment while imagining my voice, don't panic. That's just a side effect of the testing.
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
No no no! You COMPLETELY misunderstand my points about the slipspace portal.
If you walked through a portal(think the portal game) You end up on the other side, exactly as you were, because when you exit, everything comes out in the order it entered.
If the portal formed INSIDE OF YOU, your guts would appear first, Then you'd have muscle and bones, Finally your skin would appear, and you have a bloody heap of meat. Or if you appear in a human shape, your insides would be jumbled as heck and you'd die damn quick.
This is the concept I'm applying toward the corvette, as the portal started in the middle of the ship instead of infront of it.
No no, I get it, but I just didn't bring across the point I wanted to make. If you were to open that portal front first, then by example that we have seen the front also comes out first upon exiting slipspace. But it doesn't act like the outer hull is first to go, it just acts like that portion arrives first, and almost instantaneously too. Let's say the guts did go first, it wouldn't matter. Because the rebuilding process (The part where something comes out of slipspace) is instantaneous, there is no warbling or rumbling, the hull doesn't shudder or mangle itself because it went into slipspace before the inner support structures came after it. Everything happens so quickly and the portal opens so quickly that it doesn't matter what came first.
If it did matter then there would be complications, like the outer hull would go under immense stress without the inner support structures as it went through slipspace before the rest of the ship did, which spaceships desperately need because it's practically a floating bubble itself, just a hull to support the air on the inside and it would pop like a bubble. Think about it, while the front of the ship enters slip space the rest of the ship is still in normal space. For that to work you must not exit or enter slipspace until everything has either left or entered. Now that's far too much speculation on my part, but in essence nothing is logical about slipspace.
Also, again, you misunderstand my point about the Forward Unto Dawn. You act as if the front half of the ship entered the portal and went to the left(for example) to earth, while the rear half entered the portal and went to the right. This is unlikely. It is more likely that the ship entered, and when it was time to LEAVE slipspace, the Forerunner portal spawned at the ark failed, thus the front half arrived over Earth and crashed into the ocean, while the rear half remained in slipspace and kept going for an unknown distance before being deposited into real-space.
So the forward unto dawn enters slipspace, and exits upon the portal on the ark failing. Leaving the arbiter to luckily end up on earth somehow, and master chief in some random location while traveling through slipspace. Doesn't look too much like that, the front end of the half that master chief is on looks like the two ends of the super carrier, not a clean cut where slipspace happened to fail. Never heard of failing to exit while in slipspace, and I don't think it was failure, I think it was more intentional than we think.
I personally like the idea of Mendicant Bias redirecting the slipspace portal, and while this is up to debate it's far more likely the scenario. Now the details of it are interesting and I never thought of exiting before reaching the destination for half of a ship but then again It doesn't seem likely that the same slipspace portal to earth would just so happen to be an easy cut off point for half of the ship to reach an intended destination in so many years. That appears to be more like luck rather than redemption by mendicant bias.
Loving cryptum by the way, I feel like going around for a third read through.
Posted by: grey101
we are not close to forerunner slipspace whatsoever, they understood everything pertaining to slipspace to the fact they some what though of it as living since it can be stressed out.
Their understanding of it is far superior to us, that I will agree with, but their methods of traveling through it doesn't appear to be anything greater than ours, being faster and more precise does not make it ten times better than ours. Something that could be accomplished in very little time considering how far we have come, and how long it took the foreruners to get where they are today. Hundreds and thousands of years of slipspace and they are just getting around to discovering the effect on lifeforms via the halo effect while in slipspace (Dyson sphere).
Look how far we have traveled, slipspace since what? 2300? Possibly even earlier and we are still getting better at it?
human and covenant slipspace is differ ant. covenant tear a small hole while humans rip the sheet of paper; while humans understand the mathematics and physics of it the covenant technology still allows them to use it better.
That's an explanation of slipspace travel from the non forerunner perspective, something we still need to learn from.
Something tells me that we are not at the point of the forerunners, but that we are already beyond them. Not as in "we are better than them" but more like "we will be better than them considering how far we have come in so little time". Cortana just had a look at covenant slipspace and already found flaws in how they used it, we just have a missing piece of the puzzle, and the most likely chance is that we are already better than the forerunners ever will be. The promise and the prowess of our ingenuity screams progress, what has taken an advanced civilization hundreds of years to develop and maintain and understand (the covenant) took one super smart AI to find flaws with it instantaneously, and not directly instant, but by comparison.
Are all of you blind to sarcasm? they were giggling the entire time they brought that up and make jokes during the entire commentary. in the very next episode they say without joking jorge is dead. seriously.
Sarcastic remarks are not remarks of certainty at all times, now this one is definitely implausible, being the odds of jorge being alive and heading to the same place as the chief is definitely something to be sarcastically talking about, but the idea itself is what being discussed here. No need to call names and ask why is everyone is so oblivious to the matter at hand. If you find yourself saying this then 1)You are right and everyone around you is oblivious, or 2) You are pointing out the obvious and everyone around you would wish you would stop and just join along.
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Good for you, you just insulted people on the internet over some small little thing, feel better?