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Posted by: privet caboose
Reach just completely caught me off guard with how bad it screwed things up.
Cryptum, Evolutions, Bootcamp...they've all been amazing.
The Halo story is beautiful, but what good is it when everything comes to a crash near the end of the series? Everything meshes together perfectly, and then ONE piece of material ruins EVERYTHING.
The key events still occur, the Autumn flees Reach, Reach falls on the 30th, the Autumn finds Halo.
How halo was found is an issue to0, soon as the sigma crystal was gathered cortana was able to get coordinates from it nothing else.
Yet in reach we have some random artifact which was blown up before it was explained (343i better not do that crap) that was needed to get the coordinates and halsey implies from how see was talking that it was of importance.
That is completely different that what really happened, and defeats the purpose the entire first game.
Coma has been on the waypoint forums and i doubt she as seen this yet.
@Cmdr when we fist heard of this game we wanted it to be based of the novels for canon reasons, we were afraid this everything would happen. while on that same note we didn't want it to be about reach because there isn't wiggle room.
Plus the lack of finding the Sigma Crystal means that the other information on it (Nylund said there is more then one purpose it serves) is now irrelevant.
Just as well, the Covenant never would have went looking for it, and therefore, Keyes never did the Keyes loop and was never picked for his mission to go to Covenant Space to capture a Prophet, thusly Halo was never found. Remember: he was picked because of his tatcical brilliance displayed at Sigma Octanus.
And then the Covenant would never have attatched a probe to the Iriquois and never would have found Reach. How did they find Reach, then?
It can be said everything revolved around the battle of Sigma Octanus IV. It all started there because of the specific events that happened, how it happened.
I really don't see how Reach's canon error extends to anything outside of the Battle of Reach itself. Sigma Octanus still happens exactly as before.
Sure the Sword Base artifact's information diminishes the sole importance of the Sigma Octanus rock, but it's not necessarily completely defunct. It's still a sure shot that the significance of the Sword Base Artifact is giving Cortana the necessary info she need to fully translate the coordinates from the rock.
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Hell, if you stare over Reach with a fine tooth comb, do so for the rest of canon. It's also filled with varying errors. Last I checked, Coma was like myself. Reach isn't perfect, but neither is the book. Thinking about it and coming up with solutions to fill the missing information gap is better then being mindless and going "It's broken, there is a hole here! We must whine until somebody fixes it" and then "IT'S not fixed EXACTLY as I wanted!"
I really don't understand why at some point you'll go back to the argument of "if you're talking about this, go talk about that". It's a tad bit off the point, and on top of that people do talk about such things. Particularly the Spartan II numbers which have still yet to be solidified among other things.
In any case the ultimate problem of taking the gaps and coming up with solutions for ourselves is just that. It's filling in the gaps for ourselves. While really small and insignificant issues can be solved away easily with one generally accepted solution (like the importance of Sword and it's relation to the Sigma rock), any bigger gaps is open to much larger interpretation. There can be quite literally dozens of ways to explain things to fill in the gaps and make things plausible.
For example, in regards to the large discrepancy of having the Circumference unwiped for the duration of the Covenant assault on Reach, it could be said that the Circumference docked with Gamma station on the 26th of August, and thus was only recently isolated. Course I can't think of a reason at the moment as to why it didn't wipe its nav data before heading to Reach...but in anycase the point is, we can come up with these solution that range from okay to ingenious. But such solutions would be kept only to ourselves and those immediately around us participating in the discussion. And even then, only if there's a general consensus to agree that that is the solution we'd all accept as happening rather than choosing another's explanation or anything one's self comes up with. Having those gaps explained away on an individual by individual basis doesn't really forward the cause into actually filling in the official gap which is the ultimately the final point where the problem would lie and that would be that even in the case that one particular solution is accepted, like Sword being a codex for Forerunner information, it's still ultimately unofficial in the Haloverse and can't be used as valid evidence for discussion. At most it can be really damn good fan fiction to take away from the lack of information present.