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Subject: Halo 3 trueskill system and achievements

I've recently returned to Halo 3 after playing reach for a bit, with the intent of finishing up some things I had started before my 30-day trial ran out. (have real live subscription now). The main things I was looking for were to get a 50 and finish the last of the achievements you originally needed for katana armor. So far I'm at 39 in lone wolves, and just have the doublekill Spartan laser achievement left, and I have some questions for anyone willing to help me out:

1) Is "highest skill" the highest skill you've ver achieved or your highest skill currently? (basically, if I get a 50 in lone wolves then make a fool of myself trying to get the Spartan Laser achievement, will I still have "highest skill 50"?

2)Does the trueskill system take into account positioning or just scores? (For example, if the scores are 25-24-24-23-10-5, with me the 23, does it give me a better rating than if it was 25-24-24-15-10-5, with me the 15?)

3) If it operates on positions, what is the cutoff point between losing rank and gaining rank? I always thought it was top half gain rank, but one game (note this was after several top-half finishes without gaining a skill point) my skill level went up after a 4th place finish.

4) What is the best game mode to get the Spartan laser achievement on? If I hit a fusion coil or an explosive with the laser and the explosion gets me a double kill, do I get the achievement?

That is all for now. Thanks for any help. I will post more questions here as they come up. A link to an in-depth explanation of the ranking system as it pertains to Lone Wolves would be helpful, or if you could just repost it here that would be even better.

  • 07.04.2011 10:42 AM PDT
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Highest skill reflects your highest earned skill ever. so if you ever got a 50, nothing could ever bring down your highest skill. though losing will drop your trueskill.

Trueskill system either looks at the top half in FFA ranked or entire teams for team games. In FFA wolves, the system more specifically looks at who you lost to and who you won against and their rank. and who they lost to and who they won against to balance wether to rank you up. Winning will never cause you to lose rank, but losing can sometimes cause you to raise your rank mysteriously.

to get the 2-4-1 achievment, it must be done in ranked FFA. meaning wolves. a long time ago we use to have other ranked playlists like mythic brawl that made things marginally easier (though not considerably) use the laser a lot, and it'll happen some time by random chance. you must get two laser kills, you cannot kill someone with the laser and try to trick the system by quickly switching to a sniper rifle to complete the double kill. so your fusion coil explosion thing won't work. it'll make a nice, explosive double kill yes, but then it counts as an explosion kill for your record, not a laser kill.

personally I've gotten 2-4-1 well over 3-4 times in my carrier in H3, and countless time in social games (excluding warthog easy kills) it just takes a lot of laser use.

  • 07.04.2011 10:53 AM PDT


Posted by: Commandaguy
1) Is "highest skill" the highest skill you've ver achieved or your highest skill currently? (basically, if I get a 50 in lone wolves then make a fool of myself trying to get the Spartan Laser achievement, will I still have "highest skill 50"?


Yes

2)Does the trueskill system take into account positioning or just scores? (For example, if the scores are 25-24-24-23-10-5, with me the 23, does it give me a better rating than if it was 25-24-24-15-10-5, with me the 15?)

Trueskill is more than just your placing, it also takes into account multiple things about your gameplay. However, in Lone Wolves you need to come in top half to have the chance of leveling up, and when you get in the 45+ you basically need to come in first multiple times consecutively.

3) If it operates on positions, what is the cutoff point between losing rank and gaining rank? I always thought it was top half gain rank, but one game (note this was after several top-half finishes without gaining a skill point) my skill level went up after a 4th place finish.

It is possible to level up when coming in fourth place, but it depends on various things that I'm not too sure about myself. I've deleveled when coming in third before so it's best to just shoot for first place each time and you should also be safe with at least second.

4) What is the best game mode to get the Spartan laser achievement on? If I hit a fusion coil or an explosive with the laser and the explosion gets me a double kill, do I get the achievement?

The easiest would probably be during a king of the hill game when everyone is running for the hill. I think this is how I got mine. You're going to want to try and get it done before you get too high of a level though or it'll get harder to achieve on good players. And I don't believe you get the achievement if the explosion is what kills them.

A link to an in-depth explanation of the ranking system as it pertains to Lone Wolves would be helpful, or if you could just repost it here that would be even better.

Trueskill faq that I just googled for you

  • 07.04.2011 11:07 AM PDT