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Subject: A best Spartan II? I don't think so.

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I believe John was the best Spartan. All other Spartans had exceptional skills in one field specifically, while John was average in all categories. The fact that he performed well in every field made him the best.

  • 07.05.2011 2:02 PM PDT

No u


Posted by: King Dark604

Posted by: Doctor Jensen
If you don't want to read this, please, don't bother even commenting as we don't want to clog up the thread. Thank you.


I've been reading threads lately about people saying that the best Spartan is him, or her. But what i've come to see is that I don't believe there is a best Spartan. Here is my reasoning:

Now, before you start flaming me, just listen here. I believe every Spartan is good (well... most of them) and there may be a best Spartan, but i am unconvinced. I've read every book, played every game, read a couple of the comics, but honestly i've seen very little to say that there is a best Spartan II. John is a great leader, Kurt is a great leader, Sam was huge and was good with heavy weapons as was Jorge, Will and Fred were very good at CQC, Linda was the best Sniper, Kelly was the Fastest, Anton was the best scout, and so on and so forth.

But from what I can tell each Spartan has skills that make up for that of another, while John and Kurt are great leaders, Kelly may not be the greatest leader, but she is the fastest and that makes up for her lack in leadership skills and the same goes for John and Kurt.

Also we don't know every Spartan II, nor have we seen them all in action.

So, in conclusion, from what I can see there is not truly a best Spartan be it because we haven't seen them all, or because they have different skill sets, we may not ever truly know. Tell me what you think. Thanks.


Good job explaining :) I say you get my vote


Ah, thank you thanks you. Good to see someone agreeing.

  • 07.05.2011 2:08 PM PDT

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Chaoscoolperson
there were only like 36 out of training and only 25 went to reach. Technically only one left with the ability to fight and he won the entire war for humanity, so i'd say chief is the best.

post script : the chief can do anything, he specializes in everything, he is the only all purpose soldier.


False in many ways.

Chief did not defeat the covenant. The Elites did. (Thel killed truth, and if they hadn't joined the humans Humanity would have been destroyed.)

Chief does not specialize in everything. He specializes in leadership. If he did so in everything he would be as good as linda in sniping, or fred in CQC. He was good at everything, but not a master in specific fields (in Spartan terms).

Personally I say kick the trilogy out on it's ass in these debates if it is always used as a cheap cop-out. "Oh, John did the halo trilogy events, So he's the best because we honestly have no idea if any other spartan could have done it better or worse!" or "Master Chief had no trouble in Halo CE and 2, he's unstoppable!" which clearly shows they haven't touched the Flood.


Yeah if you fanboys will actually read the books you will find that he wasn't almighty. (Not you Cmdr just agreeing with you, that post was just towards the MC tardbase.)

  • 07.05.2011 2:12 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: Doctor Jensen

Posted by: mojeda101

Posted by: Cp FrEaK
Ahem...

"They let me pick, Choose which ever spartan I wanted. Like the others you were strong and swift and brave, but you had something they didnt, can you guess?.. My favoritism."

lol so I guess that sums it up... Master Chief = BOSS!

What does that have to do with anything? Where does that say he was the best? All that says if that John was Lucky.


I bolded part of this quote to show that John was as good as all of them. Then it say "but you had something they DIDN'T..." I'd say that sums it up nicely.


I fixed it for you.

  • 07.05.2011 2:13 PM PDT

No u


Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: Doctor Jensen

Posted by: mojeda101

Posted by: Cp FrEaK
Ahem...

"They let me pick, Choose which ever spartan I wanted. Like the others you were strong and swift and brave, but you had something they didnt, can you guess?.. My favoritism."

lol so I guess that sums it up... Master Chief = BOSS!

What does that have to do with anything? Where does that say he was the best? All that says if that John was Lucky.


I bolded part of this quote to show that John was as good as all of them. Then it say "but you had something they DIDN'T..." I'd say that sums it up nicely.


I fixed it for you.


Haha. Alright that's pretty funny, i'll admit that.

  • 07.05.2011 2:19 PM PDT

Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: Doctor Jensen

Posted by: mojeda101

Posted by: Cp FrEaK
Ahem...

"They let me pick, Choose which ever spartan I wanted. Like the others you were strong and swift and brave, but you had something they didnt, can you guess?.. My favoritism."

lol so I guess that sums it up... Master Chief = BOSS!

What does that have to do with anything? Where does that say he was the best? All that says if that John was Lucky.


I bolded part of this quote to show that John was as good as all of them. Then it say "but you had something they DIDN'T..." I'd say that sums it up nicely.


I fixed it for you.


And yet, she chooses David-B312 to be her courier. Why did she forget about good 'ol Six, without him there would be no Halo.

At least Halsey didn't forget, how ironic.

  • 07.05.2011 2:22 PM PDT

No u


Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: Doctor Jensen

Posted by: mojeda101

Posted by: Cp FrEaK
Ahem...

"They let me pick, Choose which ever spartan I wanted. Like the others you were strong and swift and brave, but you had something they didnt, can you guess?.. My favoritism."

lol so I guess that sums it up... Master Chief = BOSS!

What does that have to do with anything? Where does that say he was the best? All that says if that John was Lucky.


I bolded part of this quote to show that John was as good as all of them. Then it say "but you had something they DIDN'T..." I'd say that sums it up nicely.


I fixed it for you.


And yet, she chooses David-B312 to be her courier. Why did she forget about good 'ol Six, without him there would be no Halo.

At least Halsey didn't forget, how ironic.


Hmm, I didn't think Bungie actually gave six a name.

Anyways, I think i understand what you're saying. cortana forgets about Six, but Halsey doesn't. So where's the favoritism in that?

I'm right yes?

[Edited on 07.05.2011 2:35 PM PDT]

  • 07.05.2011 2:34 PM PDT


Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: Doctor Jensen

Posted by: mojeda101

Posted by: Cp FrEaK
Ahem...

"They let me pick, Choose which ever spartan I wanted. Like the others you were strong and swift and brave, but you had something they didnt, can you guess?.. My favoritism."

lol so I guess that sums it up... Master Chief = BOSS!

What does that have to do with anything? Where does that say he was the best? All that says if that John was Lucky.


I bolded part of this quote to show that John was as good as all of them. Then it say "but you had something they DIDN'T..." I'd say that sums it up nicely.


I fixed it for you.


And yet, she chooses David-B312 to be her courier. Why did she forget about good 'ol Six, without him there would be no Halo.

At least Halsey didn't forget, how ironic.


David? nah man, his name is Ricardo. And no one ever cares about the courier, without the guy who delivered John his mjolnir power armour he'd be dead, so HE is the best guy.

  • 07.06.2011 12:32 AM PDT


Posted by: Felco1

David? nah man, his name is Ricardo. And no one ever cares about the courier, without the guy who delivered John his mjolnir power armour he'd be dead, so HE is the best guy.


You do know that without Cortana, Chief wouldn't have been able to have done some of the things he has done (such as blowing up the carrier in Halo 2) in past Halo games.

By the way its armOR not armOUR. Just pointing that out.

  • 07.06.2011 3:14 AM PDT
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Cortana chosed 2 SPARTANs: Six and John - I don't remember where I read about that, but she said both were similar in some way. ;)

Choice made by Cortana doesn't point the best SPARTAN - it's her choice for mission of hijiking Covenant ship and kidnaping Covis leader, which could be the starting point for peaceful negotiations with the Covenant.

BTW. John wasn't the only SPARTAN during Battle of Earth. He weren't the only surviving SPARTAN after glassing Reach. :)

  • 07.12.2011 11:53 AM PDT
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I accidently used the wrong Xbox Live Gamertag on this, oh well :P
My real gamertag is jcgerrard8, if you want to play with me then send me a message :)

Spartan 1337 was the best by far..... so intelligent and strong.

  • 07.12.2011 11:55 AM PDT
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And lucky -> you forgot add this ;)
Well, he wasn't bad... and if always he has the same amount of luck, then... I would call him 'Lucky and alive, I hope' ;)

  • 07.12.2011 12:04 PM PDT
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I agree with the original statement for the most part most
S-IIs were better as a team because they compensated for eachothers weakness. However I believe Kurt was the best because he was a good fighter AND tactician and while John was a great leader he seperated himself from his team which although had benifits can cause some issues. Kurt connected with his team while still keeping the image of a leader. This is a quality that put him ABOVE john as a leader. Also john was not the leader of the S-IIs he was a squad leader. The only quality that seperates John from the others is his luck. Alone however I would say if not Kurt than Fred. John's great and all but he's not the best just the luckiest.

  • 07.12.2011 1:18 PM PDT

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