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Subject: Playing as a *proper* spartan III? Possible gameplay and canon ideas

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I'm bored, lets discuss gameplay mechanics for a possible Spartan III game


>Similar to ODST; Stealth, survival, tactical game-play.

>SPI Armour has photo reactive panels for prolonged but downgraded cloak, this should be a permanent ability like the arbiter in Halo 2. This cloak should be a few mins long, but far more sensitive to decloak then in Halo Reach/3.

>Weapons synonymous to Spartan III's like the MA5K carbine (see above) should be introduced. Also, the silenced Automag and SMG from ODST should be part of the Armory.

>Ammo and health should be scarce for more survival oriented gameplay.

>ONYX should be featured.

>Spartan III's usually go out in teams of hundreds, so they should be more frequent like Marines in CE. Also, Spartan III's you meet outside your squad should be "killable" by your enemy's during gameplay.

> environments should be similar to the the flood jungle level of Halo CE - big, sprawling, plenty of hiding places and routes.



Posted by: ajw34307
> Reintroduce stamina and health packs.

> "Natural VISR", of sorts. Able to see in the dark.

> D-pad used to toggle settings of the HUD interface. Tactical maps (like in ODST), squad status, objectives etc.



Discuss your ideas.

[Edited on 07.05.2011 5:34 AM PDT]

  • 07.05.2011 4:39 AM PDT
Subject: Playing as a*proper* spartan III? Possible gameplay and canon ideas

It sounds better than Reach.

  • 07.05.2011 4:47 AM PDT

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> Reintroduce stamina and health packs.

> "Natural VISR", of sorts. Able to see in the dark.

> D-pad used to toggle settings of the HUD interface. Tactical maps (like in ODST), squad status, objectives etc.

  • 07.05.2011 4:54 AM PDT

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Posted by: Dustin 6047
Technically, Noble 6 is a Spartan III, you just have MJOLINIR armor.


In the title I said *proper* spartan III with SPI armour.

  • 07.05.2011 5:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: Dustin 6047
Technically, Noble 6 is a Spartan III, you just have MJOLINIR armor.


Yeah but the only difference in gameplay with Reach is speed and jump height.

  • 07.05.2011 5:01 AM PDT

Sounds really cool, I think it would be similar to ODST.

VISR technology, like OP said, the photo reactive panels for stealth to where you blend into the environment itself, lasting 2-3 minutes definitely not as strong as light-bending active camouflage, sensitive to movement, but not necessarily decloak, but just being detected, have to move very slowly.

The weapons sound good, MA5K, Automag, and silenced SMG would be main weapons used by Spartan III's.

I like the survival-oriented gameplay, Spartan III's were sent out on suicide missions with hundreds of them, your objectives could be simply to run and survive (and kill as needed) while everyone gets slaughtered after main goals have been achieved.

Possibly after two missions similar to this manner, you could become a headhunter, and do missions that they perform.

  • 07.05.2011 5:14 AM PDT

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Posted by: Dustin 6047
Technically, Noble 6 is a Spartan III, you just have MJOLINIR armor.


In the title I said *proper* spartan III with SPI armour.

"Proper" Spartan III?

Uh huh... read this...

Posted by: SonicJohn
Play all of Bungie's Halo games and you'll see that Bungie only wanted one Spartan.

Read all of and play all of Microsoft's Halo stories and you'll see that Microsoft disagreed with this sentiment.

Bungie wanted Halo to be about the Chief and Cortana's story, mostly Cortana, but Microsoft wanted Star Wars level of success, so expanding on the universe is what they needed to do.

You'll notice that when playing Reach you'll see that every single Spartan dies. This is to emphasize what Bungie wanted originally. They could've made it so that they were all Spartan IIs, like the Chief, but it would have been too obvious that they were intending on forcing the Halo story to make sense for what they wanted. But they threw in a Spartan II for good measure anyway.

If you think Reach isn't canon, think of it this way:

Halo Reach, Halo 1, 2, ODST, 3, Halo: Contact Harvest = Bungie Halo Canon (all written by Bungie)Halo Wars, every other novel, comic, anime, short film, Halo 4 and beyond = Microsoft Halo Canon

These two separate canons are based on what Bungie did and what Bungie did not write, and completely explain any discrepancies. So feel free to bear that in mind in future.

  • 07.05.2011 5:49 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Um microsoft had no control over the contents of the book and i don't even think they order books to be made, the games are the main thing the control.

And it was john that thought he was the only one, if you actually read the end of TfoR and TF you clearly see that john came up with that assumption after keyes' statement

everything sonic says is ether

-made up
-exaggerated
-personal opinion trying to make sense of errors

  • 07.05.2011 5:56 AM PDT
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  • 07.05.2011 5:58 AM PDT
Subject: Playing as a*proper* spartan III? Possible gameplay and canon ideas

So Bungie made Reach the way it is to spite MS? I knew it. Too bad that doesn't do anything but hurt the fans.

  • 07.05.2011 6:00 AM PDT
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Posted by: HAAH WAAW
So Bungie made Reach the way it is to spite MS? I knew it. Too bad that doesn't do anything but hurt the fans.
No. They wanted to do Halo 4, instead of Reach, but they decided it would be too big of a project for them to pull off.

  • 07.05.2011 6:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Onyx81

Posted by: HAAH WAAW
So Bungie made Reach the way it is to spite MS? I knew it. Too bad that doesn't do anything but hurt the fans.
No. They wanted to do Halo 4, instead of Reach, but they decided it would be too big of a project for them to pull off.


In other words they would have actually had to pay attention to what they were doing

  • 07.05.2011 6:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
Um microsoft had no control over the contents of the book and i don't even think they order books to be made, the games are the main thing the control.

And it was john that thought he was the only one, if you actually read the end of TfoR and TF you clearly see that john came up with that assumption after keyes' statement

everything sonic says is ether

-made up
-exaggerated
-personal opinion trying to make sense of errors

Remember the reason Halo 2 was rushed? Microsoft set the release date, not Bungie.

1999-Now. Microsoft owns Halo. Microsoft, until 343 came along, commissioned most of the books, graphic novels, etc etc...

  • 07.05.2011 6:16 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Alex the Awesome

Posted by: grey101
Um microsoft had no control over the contents of the book and i don't even think they order books to be made, the games are the main thing the control.

And it was john that thought he was the only one, if you actually read the end of TfoR and TF you clearly see that john came up with that assumption after keyes' statement

everything sonic says is ether

-made up
-exaggerated
-personal opinion trying to make sense of errors

Remember the reason Halo 2 was rushed? Microsoft set the release date, not Bungie.

1999-Now. Microsoft owns Halo. Microsoft, until 343 came along, commissioned most of the books, graphic novels, etc etc...


If you do your research you will know that every halo game bungie did was rushed save for reach.

  • 07.05.2011 6:22 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Alex the Awesome

Posted by: grey101
Um microsoft had no control over the contents of the book and i don't even think they order books to be made, the games are the main thing the control.

And it was john that thought he was the only one, if you actually read the end of TfoR and TF you clearly see that john came up with that assumption after keyes' statement

everything sonic says is ether

-made up
-exaggerated
-personal opinion trying to make sense of errors

Remember the reason Halo 2 was rushed? Microsoft set the release date, not Bungie.

1999-Now. Microsoft owns Halo. Microsoft, until 343 came along, commissioned most of the books, graphic novels, etc etc...


If you do your research you will know that every halo game bungie did was rushed save for reach.

Halo CE wasn't rushed. It just went through a lot of changes...

Halo 2 was "rushed" because they wasted time on that E3 demo that was never in the actual released game. There was also a few other set backs... it wasn't rushed, it was like playing chess with half the pieces missing.

Halo 3, that was more, "What makes sense, and what doesn't?"

Like the level Guardian, that was cut because it was to much of a detour I believe.

There was no real rushing, there was like to many ideas being thrown around and not enough of just DOING IT!

ODST was just showing what they could of done with the Halo 3 engine, if they had more time (once again Microsoft breathing down their backs) and Reach is showing what they can do when left alone to make game over a longer period of time.

  • 07.05.2011 6:34 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Halo CE was rushed so it could meet the xbox release date

I am not going to say anymore than halo 2 was rushed massively

Halo 3 was also rushed and went through a change of development

  • 07.05.2011 6:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
Halo CE was rushed so it could meet the xbox release date

I am not going to say anymore than halo 2 was rushed massively

Halo 3 was also rushed and went through a change of development

And there you have it, Halo CE = Microsoft's fault.

Halo 2 = Microsoft's fault...

Halo 3 = Microsoft's fault...

Halo 3: ODST was what Halo 3 should of been like (gameplay and graphics, not story)

Halo Reach is... well, not rushed.

Anyways, why are you making suggestions for a new Halo game here? Why not go to Waypoint forums?

  • 07.05.2011 7:11 AM PDT
Subject: Playing as a *proper* spartan III? Possible gameplay and canon ideas

"A LIE is a LIE"


- Truly intelligent and deep Black ops trailer


Posted by: Alex the Awesome


Seriously, just misunderstand what I say. When I said *proper* spartan III it means ones will SPI armour, not with Mjolner armour. This thread has NOTHING to do with any broken canon, Reach or Microsoft/bungie tensions.

Thanks for derailing what could have been a interesting thread, idiot. And Grey101, best not speak to this troll, he's just derailed the thread with his stupidity.


Also, report and move on.

[Edited on 07.05.2011 7:24 AM PDT]

  • 07.05.2011 7:18 AM PDT

"A LIE is a LIE"


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Posted by: Onyx81
Remove ONYX. I don't want to be throwing rocks at Uber-Sentinals.


Its awesome. I actually think anything like using the environment adds to the survival element. Throwing rocks could also be used as distractions for covenant :P

[Edited on 07.05.2011 7:24 AM PDT]

  • 07.05.2011 7:24 AM PDT

READ IT.

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Well sorry...

What about playing as Headhunters? They actually do have shields...

  • 07.05.2011 7:45 AM PDT