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Subject: New Rules and Moderator Judgement
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Posted by: Yax
Posted by: Primum Agmen
Moderation should be done in the best interests of the forum, not blindly to the rules.
Absolutely agree. There are tonnes of situations where overlooking rule-breaking is more beneficial to the community than punishing it. I know some of the mods probably do this already (to an extent) but I think everything needs to be viewed case-by-case.

Before clicking the button they should always think "Am I banning this guy because he deserves it or am I just banning him because he is technically breaking the rules?"


I disagree. Why let some rules be broken and not others? Who is to decide which rules are OK to break?

It's much simpler and less confusing to have a clear-cut set of rules and if someone breaks those rules they get in trouble. Obviously there are huge flaws in that; just as there are flaws in bending the rules.

In reality, the bending rules method works best to keep the masses happy. In my opinion though there should be a strong set of rules that are enforced strictly.

  • 07.06.2011 5:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: Imfrikinbad
If you take real world examples into consideration then there is no way that you don't have simple ground rules, and people there to enforce them... not "hey, we go with the flow and decide what is best when we feel like it." Also, how is inconsistencies with rules even remotely a good thing? To me not knowing what I should and should not be specifically be banned for is for sure not a good thing.
I did take real world examples into account. I cited the Crown Prosecution Service, which is something approaching a District Attorney in the US. When considering whether to take a case to court, they have to consider whether it is in the public interest or not. They have repeatedly not taken high profile cases to court because it would not be in the public interest to do so.

Ninjas aren't cops, they blur the lines between many things. Then again, cops are also known to be lenient about many things if they don't see the gain in it - I've spent years with my local cops not caring a bit if I was drinking before I was 18 so long as if they happened upon me after a few drinks I was willing to share what I'd heard about recent crimes. They saw ignoring small crimes in favour of knowing, say, who it was that assaulted a guy outside a pub or who is responsible for the graffiti as more important to the public interest. Then again, they also ignored small quantities of drugs in favour of saving themselves the hassle.

  • 07.06.2011 5:04 AM PDT
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Posted by: erac2detsaw2
I disagree. Why let some rules be broken and not others?
Because sometimes it doesn't deserve a ban. Of course, most of the time it's not okay but sometimes it's acceptable.

Who is to decide which rules are OK to break?The moderators.

It's much simpler and less confusing to have a clear-cut set of rules and if someone breaks those rules they get in trouble.Yes it is.

In reality, the bending rules method works best to keep the masses happy.The masses? You mean like the community? So "the bending rules method works best to keep the [community] happy." ? (Tell me if I'm putting words in your mouth here.)
Isn't that kind of the point of moderating in the first place?

  • 07.06.2011 5:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: Primum Agmen
Posted by: Imfrikinbad
If you take real world examples into consideration then there is no way that you don't have simple ground rules, and people there to enforce them... not "hey, we go with the flow and decide what is best when we feel like it." Also, how is inconsistencies with rules even remotely a good thing? To me not knowing what I should and should not be specifically be banned for is for sure not a good thing.
I did take real world examples into account. I cited the Crown Prosecution Service, which is something approaching a District Attorney in the US. When considering whether to take a case to court, they have to consider whether it is in the public interest or not. They have repeatedly not taken high profile cases to court because it would not be in the public interest to do so.

Ninjas aren't cops, they blur the lines between many things. Then again, cops are also known to be lenient about many things if they don't see the gain in it - I've spent years with my local cops not caring a bit if I was drinking before I was 18 so long as if they happened upon me after a few drinks I was willing to share what I'd heard about recent crimes. They saw ignoring small crimes in favour of knowing, say, who it was that assaulted a guy outside a pub or who is responsible for the graffiti as more important to the public interest. Then again, they also ignored small quantities of drugs in favour of saving themselves the hassle.


Well then you must understand even cops have base rules they can't ignore. Also, what else are mod's except for forum cops? They are there to enforce rules, but at the same time if a cop does something wrong they are held liable for it. When a forum cop does something wrong here it gets overlooked. All I'm saying is that it should be done the same both ways.

  • 07.06.2011 8:50 AM PDT

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