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Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Agreed, but SPARTANS B312, B320, A259, A266, and A239 were selected and extracted from their respective companies because of their prowess and their genetics were considered equal to that, if not above, that of a SPARTAN-II, I'm pretty sure it says this in Halsey's journal, if not I know I've read it somewhere.
Mhm, most if not all of the SIIIs that best fit the qualifications of the SIIs strict genetic requirements were pulled out before the final big suicide ops. Noble Team, and whatever others like them might be out there probably would have been amongst the candidates for SIIs (whether they actually would have made it into the program or not, who knows) if they had been born earlier or the SII program had continued for a second class.
Yeah, I was partly messing with him anyway. And yes it was the Flood. =P
Haha ok, I didn't think it sounded serious XD Well that gets rid of my confusion on the matter, lol.
You have to fight two, actually. There is a third outside the wall too if I remember correctly.
Ah ok, the only one I remembered was the one that Tartarus specifically tasks you with taking out to open up the wall. Other than all the countless ones you destroy in your vehicle ride to the Library of course :P
I only remember encountering them in large part in Floodgate, Cortana, and Halo, and the last level mostly has you running from them. The Flood are a powerful adversary, and it was wise of him to do so, only a fool faces an enemy he cannot defeat.
Well yes those are specifically the only levels you fight them on, and the Covenant, but that was a rather small skirmish. :/ I didn't see the last level of H3 so much running from the Flood as escaping Alpha(b)'s self-destruction, but that's my take anyway.
Champions? What? All forces played a part in the dissolution of the Covenant and stopping the Flood. John, Cortana and Thel do not get full credit.
I know they don't get full credit for the winning, but victory was achieved in large part through their efforts. And regardless of what they actually did what I meant by champion was something similar to Martin Luther King Jr. essentially being the face of the Civil Rights movement in America or George Washington being the face of the Revolutionary War (yes I know that he didn't do all the work or anything like that, but the success of America's war for independence was achieved in large part through his organization and leadership of the military). That's what I meant when I called them the champions of their respective sides. Others did their part, and I don't think either John or Thel could have gotten to that point or achieved the destruction of the Covenant without the past and present efforts of others. But I am sure that both were regarded as some of the most important if not most important players in the war by their respective sides.
John would've been standing there with his thumb up his ass if he didn't have Cortana to do it for him.
Actually he had no trouble at all shutting down the firing of the Halos when he and Thel went to rescue Johnson and stop Truth. Remember John didn't have Cortana with him at that point, it was before he went into High Charity after her.
Yep, having a 7' super-soldier in power armor and an 8' tall elite commander really pays off.
Haha it really does, Cortana really couldn't do enact any of her ideas if she didn't have somebody to tell them to :P
Yeah, I know, it would serve you well to remember that Cortana has gotten him out of many sticky situations, and many of his 'feats' that he has accomplished have been with her assistance (i.e. disabling and reactivating the bomb inside the Carrier, stopping Halo, escaping Flood infection, activating Halo in Halo 3, etc etc)
I do remember, I know that John hasn't done everything alone, but relying on others and working with them doesn't diminish what you do alone any less. Personally I think he could of activated or deactivated the bomb himself, having Cortana just made it easier. By stopping Halo I assume you mean when John almost activated it and that whole humorous cutscene in CE? And by escaping infection by the Flood I believe you mean that one Infection form that almost got him? For the first bit I really don't think that reflects that poorly on John, it's not his fault that the insane overseer of the Ring left out the little detail that Halo kills Flood food sources and not the parasite itself, and not to mention completely mistook John for someone else entirely who did know about the Rings (I'd assume the Didact). For the one about the narrow Flood infection, was that in the Library or not long after he'd encountered them in the Quarantine Facility? I'll have a proper response once my memory is refreshed. I don't know how the Index works exactly, whether another can or ever is made or not, but activating 04(b) is something John could have done on his own too, he didn't need Cortana to do it for him. Cortana apparently having the only Index for 04(b) (like I said, I don't know if the Index can ever be destroyed so I don't know if a new one would ever be made), was what necessitated his going in for her, not that he wouldn't have gone in there after all ready of course, after all "when he makes a promise he keeps it" :P
John also wouldn't have known how to destroy High Charity without her assistance, so I guess its lucky for him that she was there, particularly since she had the index, which he would have needed to activate Halo.
I'm not so sure that destroying High Charity was on his itinerary until Cortana mentioned it. Well he wouldn't have needed the Index if the Gravemind hadn't come to the Ark :P He still would have gone back for Cortana though since he had promised he would return for her after he finished with Truth. The Gravemind and the Flood coming to the Ark is what made attaining the Index a necessity.