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Subject: Master Cheif or Six

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Posted by: matman25402
Noble 6. You don't know what you're talking about if you chose otherwise.


This.

  • 07.10.2011 8:32 AM PDT

I personally like them both but i like master chief better, reading all the books shows his personality and the damage he has delt. Noble Six however has the same lethal rating as the MC. i also enjoy making him look like however you want in the campaign

  • 07.10.2011 8:44 AM PDT

Me (Noble Six) because I'm better than Master Chief with my MJOLNIR/ODST Armor.

  • 07.10.2011 8:45 AM PDT


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
Me (Noble Six) because I'm better than Master Chief with my MJOLNIR/ODST Armor.

-blam!- yeah u are and dont let anyone tell u otherwise

  • 07.10.2011 11:05 PM PDT

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  • 07.10.2011 11:24 PM PDT

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Remember that John managed to do a lot more than six in a shorter ammount of time.

  • 07.10.2011 11:28 PM PDT


Posted by: Spartan 100
Remember that John managed to do a lot more than six in a shorter ammount of time.


Halo trilogy lasted from September to December.

I'm fairly sure the events that Six did during Reach is a shorter period of time.

  • 07.10.2011 11:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan 100
Remember that John managed to do a lot more than six in a shorter ammount of time.


Halo trilogy lasted from September to December.

I'm fairly sure the events that Six did during Reach is a shorter period of time.


If you'll read closely now, he also said that John had achieved more. NOBLE Six was pretty insignificant compared to John in my own, personal opinion. I liked him, but he achieved one thing in the story of Halo: Reach. He transported Cortana to John. Now, with that being said, John would not have done anything similar to what we can see in the trilogy without Cortana, so Six did have success with his mission, and John depended on him. If we look at what John has accomplished, though, we see that John saved the human race from forerunner weaponry time and time again. Say what you want about John not being a decent SPARTAN, but not one SPARTAN other than he could have done what he had done, purely based on his dumb luck. Every replacement would falter.

  • 07.11.2011 12:25 AM PDT
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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Spartan 100
Remember that John managed to do a lot more than six in a shorter ammount of time.


Halo trilogy lasted from September to December.

I'm fairly sure the events that Six did during Reach is a shorter period of time.
I'm actually going with RGHTre on this one... the events in Reach really weren't too much. Granted, I'd put "protection of New Alexandria", "destruction of Covenant supercarrier with Jorge", "taking back SWORD base" and "delivery of Cortana" in bold, but Master Chief had done much more leading up to, during, and after the fall of Reach.

We have no idea how much Six had done leading up yo that point (officially, that is). Until we do, we'll have to take MC's four months as superior to Six's one month.

  • 07.11.2011 2:51 AM PDT
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What if they are fighting with no armor or weapons?

Isn't John a Spartan-II... like George?

And Noble Six is a Spartan-III

So John could hammer-fist Six on the top of the head and six would be in the ground up to the waist.

Plus John is LUCKY, remember?

So even if Six was about to finish strangling John to death some crazy -blam!- would happen, like a meteorite the size of a quarter would go through Noble Six's skull or something like that...

I think the only thing that John can't kill is something that isn't living XD

[Edited on 07.11.2011 5:31 AM PDT]

  • 07.11.2011 5:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: matman25402
Noble 6. You don't know what you're talking about if you chose otherwise.
Elaborate.

  • 07.11.2011 6:38 AM PDT

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  • 07.11.2011 7:54 AM PDT

I'm pretty sure the best way of determining who would win is to treat this like a science experiment. Give them the same armor and weapons and then think of who would come out on top. The armor and weapons would be a control and the Spartans themselves would be the variables. Then just try to be unbiased. Think of who overall is the better soldier. Don't bring weapons and armor into the equation. The question is who would kick more ass under equal circumstances.

  • 07.11.2011 8:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Spartan 100
Remember that John managed to do a lot more than six in a shorter ammount of time.


Halo trilogy lasted from September to December.

I'm fairly sure the events that Six did during Reach is a shorter period of time.
I'm actually going with RGHTre on this one... the events in Reach really weren't too much. Granted, I'd put "protection of New Alexandria", "destruction of Covenant supercarrier with Jorge", "taking back SWORD base" and "delivery of Cortana" in bold, but Master Chief had done much more leading up to, during, and after the fall of Reach.

We have no idea how much Six had done leading up yo that point (officially, that is). Until we do, we'll have to take MC's four months as superior to Six's one month.


Well of course he did more, I am sure if we had given Six 4 months he could've pulled miracles out of his ass. Also, I would like to note that Master Chief has never fought a Field Marshall before, the most he's killed is a Prophet, and they're not very efficient in combat. Also, has Master Chief been ganged up on by 50+ Elite Generals at any point in any of the games? I think not.

  • 07.11.2011 1:55 PM PDT

Eh, time and time again?

Cortana barely stopped Chief from firing alpha halo. And then he disabled the ark's auto-fire the rings button. Not really time and time again.

  • 07.11.2011 2:04 PM PDT


Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Posted by: ZedFish

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Spartan 100
Remember that John managed to do a lot more than six in a shorter ammount of time.


Halo trilogy lasted from September to December.

I'm fairly sure the events that Six did during Reach is a shorter period of time.
I'm actually going with RGHTre on this one... the events in Reach really weren't too much. Granted, I'd put "protection of New Alexandria", "destruction of Covenant supercarrier with Jorge", "taking back SWORD base" and "delivery of Cortana" in bold, but Master Chief had done much more leading up to, during, and after the fall of Reach.

We have no idea how much Six had done leading up yo that point (officially, that is). Until we do, we'll have to take MC's four months as superior to Six's one month.


Well of course he did more, I am sure if we had given Six 4 months he could've pulled miracles out of his ass. Also, I would like to note that Master Chief has never fought a Field Marshall before, the most he's killed is a Prophet, and they're not very efficient in combat. Also, has Master Chief been ganged up on by 50+ Elite Generals at any point in any of the games? I think not.


Regret would have had at least two honor guards with him in the room where Chief corners him, and they're the best, of the best, of the best from amongst the Elites. I think there probably would have been more, but in any case, Chief would have had to fight through them all before he could even lay a pinky on Regret.

And how do you know he's never fought a Field Marshal before? They're a sub-rank of Zealots, and Chief has fought quite a few of those, I don't think you can say with any degree of certainty that none of them were Field Marshals.

  • 07.11.2011 8:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Well of course he did more, I am sure if we had given Six 4 months he could've pulled miracles out of his ass.
By all means, I'm sure he could... but the last major battle that Six took place in before being reassigned to Noble was in May, on Mamore.
May is four months from September. In those four months, he literally did nothing... it was a period of what I can assume was paper-pushing, form stamping, and letter-writing on the top brass's end, while Six was most likely twiddling his thumbs, awaiting reassignment.

The reality is, that in any four months surrounding the events of Reach, Chief simply did more.
In his overall campaign? We'll never know for sure.

Also, Six being ganged up on by Elites was his cause of death. That's not a great mark to put on his side; "Died when surrounded". It kind of voids that argument.

[Edited on 07.11.2011 9:04 PM PDT]

  • 07.11.2011 9:02 PM PDT

Fortune favors the Bold

Can anyone give a good reason as to why six is better than the chief? So far all I have seen is "because he is badass and can totally win".

Then when people give comments about the chief like about how he is genetically stronger, smarter, and faster, then you blow it off.

  • 07.11.2011 9:17 PM PDT


Posted by: CB Visco
Can anyone give a good reason as to why six is better than the chief? So far all I have seen is "because he is badass and can totally win".

Then when people give comments about the chief like about how he is genetically stronger, smarter, and faster, then you blow it off.


A: Master Chief is not 'genetically better' which in itself is a stupid cop-out. "Oh, chief has better genes, therefore he's the better soldier!"
B: Six is described as being a kid Halsey would have picked for being a Spartan II if he had been born at that time.
C: Chief is at his best being a team leader. He was not a team leader in the halo trilogy.
D: Chief and his team did impressive things. However, the little we know of Six's backstory is equally impressive. "Making entire militia groups disappear and destroying terrorist organizations alone." Is no small feat.
E: Personal opinion. I simply like Six better then the chief. Underrated, unknown, and not yet fully proven. Chief however, get hailed as an unstoppable god that never has any troubles and easily killed all his foes. Chief(And the spartan II's to an extent) IMO have become overrated and have way to much fan worship.

I literally hope 343 shows master chief having trouble in halo 4. I hope he nearly gets the -blam!- beat out of him, or actually does. Maybe not dies, but literally and undeniably gets his ass handed to him and shows these blind fanboys(Note, not calling you one, I am referring to the really bad ones I've seen) that chief is not what they view him as.

  • 07.11.2011 11:34 PM PDT


Posted by: OrderedComa

Regret would have had at least two honor guards with him in the room where Chief corners him, and they're the best, of the best, of the best from amongst the Elites.



Technically Zealots are as Honor Guards have the same amount of Health as an Elite Major, and the Elites that Six fights to get to the Field Marshall, all Zealots.

Posted by: OrderedComa
I think there probably would have been more, but in any case, Chief would have had to fight through them all before he could even lay a pinky on Regret.


Yeah and so did Six to get to the Field Marshall.

Posted by: OrderedComa
And how do you know he's never fought a Field Marshal before? They're a sub-rank of Zealots, and Chief has fought quite a few of those, I don't think you can say with any degree of certainty that none of them were Field Marshals.


Field Marshalls are higher than Zealots, you can clearly see that in Winter Contingency. I have reason to believe Field Marshall should be right below Supreme Commander, or around there, since none are fought in CE, and they appear to be all Field Masters, save the one Ship Master fought aboard the TnR, but I do not recall any dark red armor clad Elites other than Majors.

  • 07.12.2011 1:51 AM PDT

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Technically Zealots are as Honor Guards have the same amount of Health as an Elite Major, and the Elites that Six fights to get to the Field Marshall, all Zealots.


...Not exactly sure what you're saying here >_> I am not making any sense of it at all...could you explain your point here in a little more detail please? Are you saying that Zealots and Honor Guards are the same? Or are you saying that Honor Guards are the same as Elite Majors?

Field Marshalls are higher than Zealots, you can clearly see that in Winter Contingency. I have reason to believe Field Marshall should be right below Supreme Commander, or around there, since none are fought in CE, and they appear to be all Field Masters, save the one Ship Master fought aboard the TnR, but I do not recall any dark red armor clad Elites other than Majors.

The rank of "Zealot" is composed of several other subranks, like for instance Thel was a Fleet Master, yet he was still a Zealot as evidenced by his gold armor during his trial. Field Marshals are, I believe, yet another subset in the Zealot ranking structure. All the Zealot wore gold armor in CE, there's no telling for certain what specific subrank they belong to (except in cases where it was stated in a novel or other media piece) because they all look exactly the same.

  • 07.12.2011 1:54 PM PDT

To be fair, the regret fight was... meh.

The honor guards weren't super deadly. It was more of punching regret and running to his teleport.

[Edited on 07.12.2011 1:58 PM PDT]

  • 07.12.2011 1:58 PM PDT

Fortune favors the Bold


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Posted by: CB Visco
Can anyone give a good reason as to why six is better than the chief? So far all I have seen is "because he is badass and can totally win".

Then when people give comments about the chief like about how he is genetically stronger, smarter, and faster, then you blow it off.


A: Master Chief is not 'genetically better' which in itself is a stupid cop-out. "Oh, chief has better genes, therefore he's the better soldier!"
B: Six is described as being a kid Halsey would have picked for being a Spartan II if he had been born at that time.
C: Chief is at his best being a team leader. He was not a team leader in the halo trilogy.
D: Chief and his team did impressive things. However, the little we know of Six's backstory is equally impressive. "Making entire militia groups disappear and destroying terrorist organizations alone." Is no small feat.
E: Personal opinion. I simply like Six better then the chief. Underrated, unknown, and not yet fully proven. Chief however, get hailed as an unstoppable god that never has any troubles and easily killed all his foes. Chief(And the spartan II's to an extent) IMO have become overrated and have way to much fan worship.

I literally hope 343 shows master chief having trouble in halo 4. I hope he nearly gets the -blam!- beat out of him, or actually does. Maybe not dies, but literally and undeniably gets his ass handed to him and shows these blind fanboys(Note, not calling you one, I am referring to the really bad ones I've seen) that chief is not what they view him as.

Saying he is naturally better isnt a cop-out. The spartan IIs were picked because they were the smartest, fastest, strongest kids in the entire human race. This wasnt the case for the spartan IIIs. A clear example of this is how the spartans in reach are slower, jump lower, are less strong, and experience recoil. This is why bungie added the bloom.

When does it ever say that Master chief's best is as a team leader?

Now its hard to say whos better with a comment like that. Because honestly, all the spartan IIs have been pretty much doing that too.

Its because chief has never been stopped. Time and time again he has pulled out just in time. He escaped reach twice, escaped halo, gone into highcharity and came out twice. There is a difference between fighting entire groups of militia and fighting entire groups of sentinels, flood, and covenant all at the same time.

But when it comes down to it, there really isnt enough facts about six to fully judge him. And here you can't really go on speculation. So you have to go on what you know. What we do know is that spartan IIs are equal to elites. This has been shown many many times through out the history of halo. Yet as soon as spartan IIIs are introduced, they are inferior. So already chief has a great advantage above six

  • 07.12.2011 3:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: CB Visco

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: CB Visco
Can anyone give a good reason as to why six is better than the chief? So far all I have seen is "because he is badass and can totally win".

Then when people give comments about the chief like about how he is genetically stronger, smarter, and faster, then you blow it off.


A: Master Chief is not 'genetically better' which in itself is a stupid cop-out. "Oh, chief has better genes, therefore he's the better soldier!"
B: Six is described as being a kid Halsey would have picked for being a Spartan II if he had been born at that time.
C: Chief is at his best being a team leader. He was not a team leader in the halo trilogy.
D: Chief and his team did impressive things. However, the little we know of Six's backstory is equally impressive. "Making entire militia groups disappear and destroying terrorist organizations alone." Is no small feat.
E: Personal opinion. I simply like Six better then the chief. Underrated, unknown, and not yet fully proven. Chief however, get hailed as an unstoppable god that never has any troubles and easily killed all his foes. Chief(And the spartan II's to an extent) IMO have become overrated and have way to much fan worship.

I literally hope 343 shows master chief having trouble in halo 4. I hope he nearly gets the -blam!- beat out of him, or actually does. Maybe not dies, but literally and undeniably gets his ass handed to him and shows these blind fanboys(Note, not calling you one, I am referring to the really bad ones I've seen) that chief is not what they view him as.

Saying he is naturally better isnt a cop-out. The spartan IIs were picked because they were the smartest, fastest, strongest kids in the entire human race. This wasnt the case for the spartan IIIs. A clear example of this is how the spartans in reach are slower, jump lower, are less strong, and experience recoil. This is why bungie added the bloom.

When does it ever say that Master chief's best is as a team leader?

Now its hard to say whos better with a comment like that. Because honestly, all the spartan IIs have been pretty much doing that too.

Its because chief has never been stopped. Time and time again he has pulled out just in time. He escaped reach twice, escaped halo, gone into highcharity and came out twice. There is a difference between fighting entire groups of militia and fighting entire groups of sentinels, flood, and covenant all at the same time.

But when it comes down to it, there really isnt enough facts about six to fully judge him. And here you can't really go on speculation. So you have to go on what you know. What we do know is that spartan IIs are equal to elites. This has been shown many many times through out the history of halo. Yet as soon as spartan IIIs are introduced, they are inferior. So already chief has a great advantage above six


Judging by your post, I'm going to assume the Elites in Reach are also Elites-III, because they also suffer bloom.

  • 07.12.2011 3:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: CB Visco
A clear example of this is how the spartans in reach are slower, jump lower, are less strong, and experience recoil. This is why bungie added the bloom.

Sure you aren't confusing gameplay elements for canon?

  • 07.12.2011 3:23 PM PDT