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Subject: The most important thing in CTF is?
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The best thing about CTF is the that moment you make a great score, often against the run of play. But the best flags are the ones you or a team mate score after working together from end to end.
Why then, do so many ppl just go into CTF to rack up kills, camp or generally screw around.
Now I am not the best slayer around by far, my age slows my reflexes I guess, but I can often end up on top in an average game with 2 flags and less than 10 kills, other ppl on the map rack up 40 or 50 kills and show no interest in the flag.
Please, go play slayer you will have more fun No?

OK;
Just to make it clear IMHO base defence is not camping its good tactics,
Supporting the flag carrier is just as important as carrying. If you pick up a drop and survive to score it is the team that wins, team play comes first.

[Edited on 2/27/2006]

  • 02.26.2006 12:59 PM PDT
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well not all of us who go to ctf to kill just kill i get at least 1 flag then go on killing sprees

  • 02.26.2006 1:00 PM PDT
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Well if u play like me, then all u do is defend the flag and help the person who gets the flag socre, i see many people who go and get the flag but sometimes get killed and someone else takes the flag and scores and the other person starts -blam!-ing cuz he didnt score and that it was his flag, so i rather just help by killing everyone in the other team, is not camping its of more of defending.

  • 02.26.2006 2:00 PM PDT
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While the point of CTF is to capture the flag, it shouldn't mean that everyone should be trying to get it continously. The 'killing spree players' can actually help defend your own flag, since the other team will be too busy fighting them or respawning, and they also create nice diversions that should be taken advantage of. Also, (not that I'm saying I support it) Slayer games last much less than CTF and they have much less strategy involved in them, while CTF games will have groups that will do certain tasks for the team.

Just think of it as you having the job of capturing the flag sneakily while your teammates kill anything that could be a threat to you.

  • 02.26.2006 3:33 PM PDT
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I think the most important thing is to capture the flag obviously

  • 02.26.2006 7:19 PM PDT
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The most important thing about CTF is;
There isn't a kill limit.

  • 02.27.2006 7:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: Blackmarch 2
The most important thing about CTF is;
There isn't a kill limit.

Exactly, and you also respawn at your own base, you own your vehicles, and the enemy will only be in one spot, meaning that if you find a good sniper spot you can stay there for the whole game and get 40+ kills focusing on one spot, instead of the 20 kills you would get and all the finding the enemy and the like.

  • 02.27.2006 7:56 AM PDT

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CAPTURING THE FLAG is most important. I think it's ok to go for kills, defense, cover the flag carrier, etc, but I laugh my ass off in sniper CTF games when people whine that, " it's g@y to go for flags." I tell them to go play slayer. After a flag cap or 2, then I go for some kills and usually end up in the top 3 for kills.

The thing I noticed about the AI is if you collide with a team mate's vehicle and take air you usually end up wheels down, but a collision with an enemy will dump you.

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  • 02.27.2006 10:51 AM PDT
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they kill because when people get the flag, defending themselves becomes secondary. They let the people kill them.

  • 02.27.2006 10:56 AM PDT
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The most important thing in CTF is that flag caps are worth infinitely more than any amount of kills. Doubly infinitely more so on only sniper maps with no shields.

  • 02.27.2006 12:52 PM PDT
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Obviously, the team.
Not the kills (although it's fun, fortunately only on in a game).
I agreed, if you want to kill go to Slayer. Or Irak.

  • 02.27.2006 1:37 PM PDT
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Most important thing? WINNING !

  • 02.28.2006 9:06 AM PDT
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Actually it's good play which combines all the good points so far... Teamplay, nokill limit, and etc..
actually this one hates flag caps.

  • 02.28.2006 10:06 AM PDT
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the thing i find important that somehow people find cheap is covering the enemy base with sniper fire/grenades/whatever you use depending on the map while the flag carrier gets away.

i cant count how many times people yell at me for spawn killing when all im doing is making sure my teammate can get away. Suppress the enemy. thats all im doing.

  • 02.28.2006 3:32 PM PDT
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Oka for all CTF Ppl the best thing i think about CTF is piking off all dem newbs with ur Snipa rifle, Or shanken them out with ur pistol. But the Thing i got wroge with ur post is that playing CTF just too kill! WELL THATS THE FUNNEST PART!!!! i mean come now dont u love picking ppl of with ur pistol/sniper or runnen em down with ur hog? just going for the flag makes u look like a noob! having most kills...Well thats the BEST FEELING Ever..(other than Jaking-off)

So for all ye ppl who think that the most important thing to CTF is the falg capturing just think about how fun it is the blow the @#$@ outa someone with a rocket Lanucher =)

HAPPPY Gamming Yall

  • 02.28.2006 3:55 PM PDT
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Out of curiosity, was this thread started because of the CTF game on tankwarz where everyone left because it had turned into a one-sided slaughter?

  • 02.28.2006 8:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: PlasmaPistool
Oka for all CTF Ppl the best thing i think about CTF is piking off all dem newbs...


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  • 03.01.2006 12:32 AM PDT
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If you play slayer on a CTF game, then your sad. Your not as good as you think.

Because, most others are going for a flag, or helping the flag carrier, thus not overly concerned about kills/deaths.

If your playing a game where you have a different objective to most others, it will be easier wont it?

It annoys me, from both sides. If someone is spawn raping on our team, it makes it a lot harder to get the flag because they are constantly spawning where I want to go.

People that play slayer in CTF games simply like seeing their supposed 'high score' against other people. One which they wouldnt have in a slayer game because they know they are not that good.

  • 03.01.2006 1:19 AM PDT
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Eh...from my experiences, the only people who ever really racked up the kills nonstop were the ones using aimbots/other hacks. Though, the suckiest one I've seen was a guy who lagged across the screen, but then when he gets to the other side he has to turn off whatever he's using to lag himself, and just gets killed.

When me and my friend played, we either went together in a hog, or one would go for the flag while the other sat in the base with a shotgun. It's your own fault if you think they're just going to let you get the flag without defending...

  • 03.01.2006 1:38 AM PDT

Most people kill because it is easier, I mean it is hard for some people to go into a base, live, get the flag, live, and then bring it back to their base, and still live. I do admit it is kinda of annoying to have people do that, and typically the ones that do it are the ones camping and spawn killing you at your own base. Thats one of my reason why I think people do it, because in Slayer or Team Slayer, you don't always spawn at the same area, so no one can really camp and spawn kill, but in CTF they can. This isn't really a problem, because as long as you have a good team, you can usually kill them all, hell most noobs can. Now something I do hate is when noobs, get no flag carrier points, but they get the most kills, but there team still loses, and at the end of the game they try to brag, I am like its CTF dip$hit, not Slayer.

Now as for the question of the post: The most important thing in CTF, is TEAM WORK, you can't get to the other team's base, get the flag, bring it to your base, score, and still live, without team work. Now yes I have seen, and have done it myself, so yes you can get the flag by yourself and bring it to your base, but without team work, whose going to make sure no one takes your teams flag, so when you bring the flag you can score it, and who is going to help guard you, while you are waiting for your flag to return? So like I said TEAM WORK, is the key factor to winning a CTF game, heck really any team game.

  • 03.01.2006 5:30 AM PDT
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Team work helps you get more kills.
A pair of people that are good with the pistol tend to own the battlefield when they are supporting each other.

  • 03.01.2006 11:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: Blackmarch 2
Team work helps you get more kills.
A pair of people that are good with the pistol tend to own the battlefield when they are supporting each other.

Scary thought right there. Basically 1 shot from one person and 2 from the other, plus a grenade every once in a while, and a good secondary weapon and those two people will stop all foot traffic for the opposite team for a very long time, and maybe even hogs too...

  • 03.01.2006 4:26 PM PDT

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