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Subject: How did 343 survive?

At the end of Halo 1, wouldnt he have gotten killed by the explosion? And another thing I never got was how did they reprogram him to be good? Such as when he helped in Halo 3, these are things I never really got.

  • 07.09.2011 1:05 AM PDT


Posted by: XxSilvrHaze23xX
At the end of Halo 1, wouldnt he have gotten killed by the explosion? And another thing I never got was how did they reprogram him to be good? Such as when he helped in Halo 3, these are things I never really got.
1. Dunno. Flew away? Teleported?

2. He wasn't reprogrammed. He essentially had two functions. Guard Halo against any major threat and to help any reclaimers. Since his installation was destroyed he could only help the reclaimers and that is chief and the humans.

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Posted by: XxSilvrHaze23xX
At the end of Halo 1, wouldnt he have gotten killed by the explosion? And another thing I never got was how did they reprogram him to be good? Such as when he helped in Halo 3, these are things I never really got.
1. Dunno. Flew away? Teleported?

2. He wasn't reprogrammed. He essentially had two functions. Guard Halo against any major threat and to help any reclaimers. Since his installation was destroyed he could only help the reclaimers and that is chief and the humans.


lol.

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  • 07.09.2011 1:09 AM PDT

Oh okay haha thanks. So thats why he betrays the humans again at the end of 3.

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Posted by: XxSilvrHaze23xX
Oh okay haha thanks. So thats why he betrays the humans again at the end of 3.

Not necessarily. There are differences between his betrayal in Halo 1 and 3; the former betrayal was solely a matter of protocol, whereas the latter involved use of his own weapon, previously unseen change to red color, and a statement that places "my makers" and "forerunner" in contextual contrast with his own possession of the ring - all signifying rebellious rampancy and not blind enforcement of protocol. It is interesting, however, how his final call to duty to preserve endangered protocol (Johnson blowing everything up before it is completed) served as the final "spark" (NPI) to drive him into his apparently rampant state. Still, there were other factors at play than just his responsibilities when it comes to his fit at the end.

  • 07.09.2011 2:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: XxSilvrHaze23xX
Oh okay haha thanks. So thats why he betrays the humans again at the end of 3.

Not necessarily. There are differences between his betrayal in Halo 1 and 3; the former betrayal was solely a matter of protocol, whereas the latter involved use of his own weapon, previously unseen change to red color, and a statement that places "my makers" and "forerunner" in contextual contrast with his own possession of the ring - all signifying rebellious rampancy and not blind enforcement of protocol. It is interesting, however, how his final call to duty to preserve endangered protocol (Johnson blowing everything up before it is completed) served as the final "spark" (NPI) to drive him into his apparently rampant state. Still, there were other factors at play than just his responsibilities when it comes to his fit at the end.


Cryptum suggests that it actually is a pre-programed response built into the monitors.

There was a failsafe installed in the Halo system that prevented the Forerunners themselves from ever canceling out the order for a Halo to activate. The reasoning behind it was that if a Forerunner was infected by the Flood, it would have the ability to override the activation of a Halo. And so with that possibility in mind, any species that were shown to be hostile to the installation were regarded as fair game due to that threat of infection. Low and behold that backfired horribly when Mendicant Bias itself rebelled and activated them around the Forerunner capitol. That in turn spurred the Forerunner fleet to deploy with the intention to destroy the Halos. Which in turn, led to those Halo's sentinels openly engaging the Forerunner fleet to defend their respective rings. It seemed the Forerunners themselves never expected the possibility of having to destroy a Halo themselves.

All that said. I do believe that the monitors thus treat their rings with the utmost priority first and foremost over anything else. Self preservation against any potential threat regardless of species or status so that the installations will be in an able state to fulfill their purpose when the time comes.

To quote Cryptum Page 312:

'The installations will not allow themselves to be attacked,' the councilor said. 'They will defend themselves. Even if they are not under the control of Mendicant Bias, there will be violent confrontations.'
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Later on in the same page is this entry
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...Our sensors now picked up swarms of small and midsize craft emerging from the Halo itself, and identified them as dedicated sentinels-used only for Halo defense.

They are controlled by the installation monitors. The monitors are programmed to assume that all who attack an installation are enemies-whatever they look like, or what ever codes they possess.

'That makes no sense,' I said.

It does if you understand the ways of the Flood.


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Posted by: paulmarv
Posted by: XxSilvrHaze23xX
Oh okay haha thanks. So thats why he betrays the humans again at the end of 3.

Not necessarily. There are differences between his betrayal in Halo 1 and 3; the former betrayal was solely a matter of protocol, whereas the latter involved use of his own weapon, previously unseen change to red color, and a statement that places "my makers" and "forerunner" in contextual contrast with his own possession of the ring - all signifying rebellious rampancy and not blind enforcement of protocol. It is interesting, however, how his final call to duty to preserve endangered protocol (Johnson blowing everything up before it is completed) served as the final "spark" (NPI) to drive him into his apparently rampant state. Still, there were other factors at play than just his responsibilities when it comes to his fit at the end.


Cryptum suggests that it actually is a pre-programed response built into the monitors.

There was a failsafe installed in the Halo system that prevented the Forerunners themselves from ever canceling out the order for a Halo to activate. The reasoning behind it was that if a Forerunner was infected by the Flood, it would have the ability to override the activation of a Halo. And so with that possibility in mind, any species that were shown to be hostile to the installation were regarded as fair game due to that threat of infection. Low and behold that backfired horribly when Mendicant Bias itself rebelled and activated them around the Forerunner capitol. That in turn spurred the Forerunner fleet to deploy with the intention to destroy the Halos. Which in turn, led to those Halo's sentinels openly engaging the Forerunner fleet to defend their respective rings. It seemed the Forerunners themselves never expected the possibility of having to destroy a Halo themselves.

All that said. I do believe that the monitors thus treat their rings with the utmost priority first and foremost over anything else. Self preservation against any potential threat regardless of species or status so that the installations will be in an able state to fulfill their purpose when the time comes.

To quote Cryptum Page 312:

'The installations will not allow themselves to be attacked,' the councilor said. 'They will defend themselves. Even if they are not under the control of Mendicant Bias, there will be violent confrontations.'
--------------------
Later on in the same page is this entry
--------------------

...Our sensors now picked up swarms of small and midsize craft emerging from the Halo itself, and identified them as dedicated sentinels-used only for Halo defense.

They are controlled by the installation monitors. The monitors are programmed to assume that all who attack an installation are enemies-whatever they look like, or what ever codes they possess.

'That makes no sense,' I said.

It does if you understand the ways of the Flood.
:O I can't believe how well that fit into Halo 3!

  • 07.09.2011 10:37 AM PDT

Did you watch after the credits of Halo 1??? He flies away into space.

He wasn't reprogrammed. The flood needed to be destroyed and that is what he was doing helping them in Halo 3.

  • 07.09.2011 12:01 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

After Alpha Halo was destroyed, he floated in space nearby for an unknown amount of time before being picked up by Elite recovering parties, which then went to Threshold and subsequently reveled agaisnt the Covenant after finding out the true purpose of the Halos.

  • 07.09.2011 12:04 PM PDT