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Subject: Ehi Bungie, about your aerospace motto...

Very few will notice this, as very few people study and know Latin. In your Aerospace motto "Per audacia ad astra" there is a grammar error.

You probably (or should I say without any doubt? :-P) copied the phrase from the famous "Per aspera ad astra", but you didn't think about the fact that "aspera" is a plural noun, and "audacia" is singular.

So, with the singular, the correct phrase is "Per audaciaM ad astra", as with the preposition "per", you have to use the accusative case, not the ablative.

Very few pointed it out, and I'm doing it again, hoping that you'll correct the phrase. Even if very few will notice this, it's still a bad mistake to see...

Also, if you did want to use audacia as a plural noun, you still made a mistake, as "audacia, ae" is a "singularia tantum", this means that there's only the singular form of the noun, without the plural.

Either way, you're mistaking in your motto, and that's not a good thing to see.

P.S. Studying Latin is boring I know, but sometimes it helps.

-DarthGalm-

[Edited on 07.09.2011 2:08 AM PDT]

  • 07.09.2011 2:06 AM PDT

USAF Air Traffic Controller.
#moap

Quisnam dat a -blam!-?
I'm sure they knew what they were doing when they made "said" mistake.

  • 07.09.2011 2:15 AM PDT


Posted by: Saint of Taint
Quisnam dat a -blam!-?
I'm sure they knew what they were doing when they made "said" mistake.


they don't. they're mistaking in every way you see this.
I wasn't sure, so I asked my Latin teacher too, and she confirmed that it's an error.
When you will study Latin, you will be able to see for yourself.

  • 07.09.2011 2:26 AM PDT

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Latin FTW lol... I wish I knew it.........

  • 07.09.2011 2:32 AM PDT

USAF Air Traffic Controller.
#moap

Very boldness to star
sounds about right to me...

  • 07.09.2011 4:45 AM PDT


Posted by: Saint of Taint
Very boldness to star
sounds about right to me...


I'm a Latin student as well, and I can say with certainty that Google Translate doesn't know -blam!-. This guy's correct.

  • 07.09.2011 4:50 AM PDT

The Stig is dead to me
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Latin is pretty awesome, I wish I knew what it all means :(

  • 07.09.2011 5:00 AM PDT


Posted by: CairoCat

Posted by: Saint of Taint
Very boldness to star
sounds about right to me...


I'm a Latin student as well, and I can say with certainty that Google Translate doesn't know -blam!-. This guy's correct.


Thanks, finally someone that confirms the error.
I hate those fanboys saying "Bungie did it, it MUST be right!!!1!!11one".

  • 07.09.2011 5:04 AM PDT

Don't learn Latin! Ancient Greek was so much more fun! Greek has less cases of words but possibly more conjugations. But at least it doesn't have that irritating ablative!

  • 07.09.2011 5:05 AM PDT


Posted by: FeanorFenwe
Don't learn Latin! Ancient Greek was so much more fun! Greek has less cases of words but possibly more conjugations. But at least it doesn't have that irritating ablative!


Latin is the core of all romance languages, learn it and suddenly most European languages are a breeze to pick up.

  • 07.09.2011 5:07 AM PDT


Posted by: FeanorFenwe
Don't learn Latin! Ancient Greek was so much more fun! Greek has less cases of words but possibly more conjugations. But at least it doesn't have that irritating ablative!


Most of the languages spoken in Europe come from a mix of Latin and Greek (Romance languages), and even the Germanic languages have some words that derive from Latin and Greek.
The core language is Latin though...

[Edited on 07.09.2011 5:15 AM PDT]

  • 07.09.2011 5:14 AM PDT
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Is it possible that the "mistake" was intentional? Meaning possibly that it's for all? Please realize however, that I do not study Latin either, so that may sound foolish, but nonetheless I could not help but think.

If not, DarthGlam +1, I suppose.

  • 07.09.2011 5:25 AM PDT

δόξει τις ἀμαθεῖ σοφὰ λέγων οὐκ εὖ φρονεῖν.

Euripides, Bacchae. 480.

I love it when people come here to correct Bungie on the grammar of this "motto" yet exhibit decidedly average English grammar themselves, e.g.:

Also, if you did want to use audacia as a plural noun, you still made a mistake, as "audacia, ae" is a "singularia tantum", this means that there's only the singular form of the noun, without the plural.

This is indicative of the linguistic quality of your entire post. Learn your native language before you try to lecture on an ancient one to others. Oimoi!

  • 07.09.2011 5:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: DarthGalm
Bungie did it, it MUST be right!!!1!!11one


This.

Also I think someone is using this thread as an excuse to show off the fact that they know Latin... xD

[Edited on 07.09.2011 7:19 AM PDT]

  • 07.09.2011 6:32 AM PDT

It doesn't seem likely that they would make this mistake, but I'm not saying it isn't possible. Perhaps they did it on purpose for some odd reason?

  • 07.09.2011 6:46 AM PDT

it is obviously an ancient extinct form of latin.

  • 07.09.2011 6:50 AM PDT

Exact science, is not an exact science.

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  • 07.09.2011 7:13 AM PDT
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Whoo.

I don't think they'd make a latin motto without actually consulting with someone who knows latin, the same way I wouldn't just try talking to a french guy without knowing any french, although either way it doesn't REALLY matter, I mean hardly anyone knows Latin and the dudes that do don't come here.

  • 07.09.2011 8:06 AM PDT

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Per Audacia Ad Astra

Bungie always incorporates Latin in one of their game's, and I actually think one of the employee's speaks Latin. I'm not sure what to think.
Posted by: CairoCat

Posted by: Saint of Taint
Very boldness to star
sounds about right to me...


I'm a Latin student as well, and I can say with certainty that Google Translate doesn't know -blam!-. This guy's correct.

  • 07.09.2011 8:23 AM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten

But it makes sense in a rough translation.

  • 07.09.2011 8:40 AM PDT

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Hello community, If you have any questions or concerns then please feel free to ask, whatever it may be and I will answer them to the best of my knowledge/ability. (It may not be THE answer you're looking for but AN answer is better than NO answer.)

KEEP CALM AND PLAY XBOX
Thank you.

Didn't ya' hear? Bungie formed the Latin language. They tweak their words to their liking.

  • 07.09.2011 8:42 AM PDT


Posted by: Heliossoileh1
I love it when people come here to correct Bungie on the grammar of this "motto" yet exhibit decidedly average English grammar themselves, e.g.:

Also, if you did want to use audacia as a plural noun, you still made a mistake, as "audacia, ae" is a "singularia tantum", this means that there's only the singular form of the noun, without the plural.

This is indicative of the linguistic quality of your entire post. Learn your native language before you try to lecture on an ancient one to others. Oimoi!


Well, I speak Italian as my native language, English, French, I study Latin. Do you think it's easy? try for yourself to learn all those languages, and then come back, kid. Everyone understood, you're the only one so retarded to not understand what I say. Learn Latin, and you'll understand Bungie is wrong.

  • 07.09.2011 2:06 PM PDT

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Let's all argue about a dead language.

  • 07.09.2011 2:14 PM PDT


Posted by: Maimum FEAR
Let's all argue about a dead language.


Obviously it's still being used. -__-

  • 07.09.2011 2:19 PM PDT

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