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Subject: Possible evidence of the Covenant in Halo 4?

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Berzerk Gnome
Whether or not the "Patterns" or "Shapes" come into play isnt the question. The remnants of the Covenant still exist, high Charity is infected by the flood ... but all of the covenant species besides the Elites are still under the same banner. Signs also point to the fact of the chiefs ship heading to a planet like object, this object could be a forerunner planet, or quite possibly high charity ?

The only banner the Elites are under is the banner of confusion. Only the Brutes and what's left of the Prophets seem to believe, but as shown in Evolutions, not all Brutes care about the Covenant's tenets.

  • 07.16.2011 9:51 PM PDT

Berzerk Gnome

Oh yes sorry I did bleed together some cannon for a second you are right High Charity did crash on the Ark before it was destroyed.But if the planet is forerunner why ad so much hostility to it all I'm pretty sure if chief crashed on a forerunner planet there wouldn't be any opposing force, thus no cause for another game at all.

  • 07.16.2011 9:57 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Berzerk Gnome
Oh yes sorry I did bleed together some cannon for a second you are right High Charity did crash on the Ark before it was destroyed.But if the planet is forerunner why ad so much hostility to it all I'm pretty sure if chief crashed on a forerunner planet there wouldn't be any opposing force, thus no cause for another game at all.

There already is an opposing force, ie the ancient evil mentioned in all the press material.

  • 07.16.2011 10:00 PM PDT

Berzerk Gnome

Yes ancient evil referring to the Flood

  • 07.16.2011 10:06 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Berzerk Gnome
Yes ancient evil referring to the Flood

Who said it's the Flood?

  • 07.16.2011 10:07 PM PDT

the covenant still have home worlds and most likley ships and lesser prophets to lead there religon is still alive and they still think that forerunner tech is religous artifacts i doubt the covenant will be in this one but maybe the next if they get of the world(possible war with elites vs brutes and other covenant)?

  • 07.16.2011 10:08 PM PDT

Berzerk Gnome

Well it only makes since the ancient opposing force of the Forerunner was and is the Flood, and the flood are not all destroyed they survived the first Halo ring genocide of the universe and were definitely not all obliterated with the destruction of the Ark and high Charity.

  • 07.16.2011 10:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: adampower14
the covenant still have home worlds and most likley ships and lesser prophets to lead there religon is still alive and they still think that forerunner tech is religous artifacts i doubt the covenant will be in this one but maybe the next if they get of the world(possible war with elites vs brutes and other covenant)?

There is no Covenant as it once was. The lesser races are scattered and stayign to themselves, the technology is decaying, and the only real fighting is between Elites and the Brutes.

  • 07.16.2011 10:11 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Berzerk Gnome
Well it only makes since the ancient opposing force of the Forerunner was and is the Flood, and the flood are not all destroyed they survived the first Halo ring genocide of the universe and were definitely not all obliterated with the destruction of the Ark and high Charity.


Why would Mendicant Bias send Chief to a Flood infested world to meet the Forerunners? Ask yourself that.

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My two sense and my gut says that the story might be like what happened to Spartan team black, there will be covies but not in force and there will be some humans, but shattered and beaten down. There will be forerunner AI's and maybe some flood (or super flood). The true evil will something worst or more threating. In fact I expect that H4 will be setting us up for a 4-5 way melee and a more "on the run, losing" theme.

  • 07.16.2011 10:49 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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1. There are no humans.
2. There are no Covenant species united any more for a broken down faction.
3. Forerunner AIs are a given, ie Mendicant Bias.
4. Still don't know if there are Flood, but I think it's unlikely.
5. Evil never wins.

  • 07.16.2011 10:55 PM PDT

Berzerk Gnome

I suspect Chief will ultimately destroy the flood and th remnants of the covenant will be disbanded by the alliance of humans and the elites. case closed

  • 07.16.2011 10:57 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Berzerk Gnome
I suspect Chief will ultimately destroy the flood and th remnants of the covenant will be disbanded by the alliance of humans and the elites. case closed

We don't even know WHERE the Flood comes from, Chief may be strong but he can't do it single handily. The Covenant is already disbanded.

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Posted by: Berzerk Gnome
I suspect Chief will ultimately destroy the flood and th remnants of the covenant will be disbanded by the alliance of humans and the elites. case closed


Do you even know how many times he got his ass whooped by the flood in the novel "the flood"?

Atleast 7 times

  • 07.16.2011 11:14 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Berzerk Gnome
I suspect Chief will ultimately destroy the flood and th remnants of the covenant will be disbanded by the alliance of humans and the elites. case closed


Do you even know how many times he got his ass whooped by the flood in the novel "the flood"?

Atleast 7 times

You know people who make such claims about Chief being able to do anythign don't read the novels.

  • 07.16.2011 11:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
1. There are no humans.
2. There are no Covenant species united any more for a broken down faction.
3. Forerunner AIs are a given, ie Mendicant Bias.
4. Still don't know if there are Flood, but I think it's unlikely.
5. Evil never wins.


Honestly I know where your coming from but idk, that one "leak" did make me think and it is possible. Esp. the fact that the planet is sucking the ship in, that reminds me of this and so maybe it may not factor into a big part of the plot but I do think that it'll seem odd to drop every single thing and throw a whole new style without some sort of throw back...and honestly I'd like it better this way. It'll provide a new thrill and allow us to have a completely new element to play with. Plus the new enemy would be allowed to be overpowered as hell.

As for the covie part I don't think your reading it right, this theory relies on the fact that 1 and 2 wouldn't be aware of the events of the last two games, they'll most likely have been captive and or fighting for awhile. Hell maybe even they allied against a common threat. Also it's a forerunner planet, the forerunners are infamous for their love of collecting samples of species and crap.

[Edited on 07.16.2011 11:35 PM PDT]

  • 07.16.2011 11:31 PM PDT

The Elites are using whatever resources they have left to pursue Forerunner artifacts to try and understand it. I believe that was mentioned in the short story where the Elite commander returned to a world he glassed. While the Humans and Elites are on somewhat good terms, it was also mentioned that some Elites have no regard for that. Also mentioned was the fact that some Jackals had come to the planet to look for possible Forerunner tech.

So while it might not be 'The Covenant' anymore, it's sort of possible that we might run into the previous factions of The Covenant. I'd like there to be some Elites on our side, but I don't really care about the other factions. I'm looking forward to some somewhat new protagonists/antagonists.

  • 07.16.2011 11:38 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: L KOLIEAN L
Honestly I know where your coming from but idk, that one "leak" did make me think and it is possible. Esp. the fact that the planet is sucking the ship in, that reminds me of this and so maybe it may not factor into a big part of the plot but I do think that it'll seem odd to drop every single thing and throw a whole new style without some sort of throw back...and honestly I'd like it better this way. It'll provide a new thrill and allow us to have a completely new element to play with. Plus the new enemy would be allowed to be overpowered as hell.


1. Frank O'Conner confirmed the leak was bull-blam!-, or bullshirt as he said it since he isn't known to be a big cusser.

2. The Line Installation captured and crashed ships from Slipspace, the Dawn was out of Slipspace when it stated going towards the mysterious planet. It is similar in a way, but not that much.

3. It's a new trilogy, I don't want a throwback I want a new experience.

As for the covie part I don't think your reading it right, this theory relies on the fact that 1 and 2 wouldn't be aware of the events of the last two games, they'll most likely have been captive and or fighting for awhile. Hell maybe even they allied against a common threat. Also it's a forerunner planet, the forerunners are infamous for their love of collecting samples of species and crap.

1. That is an impossibility. The only instance of Covenant forces unaware of the war was portrayed in Stomping on the Heels of a Fuss. In it, a Brute Chieftain purposely fled the battle of Reach and set his forces on a isolated human hunting world where they in turn hunted and ate humans. Half of the Brutes were committed to the Great Journey and the other half wasn't. Doesn't matter through, they were all exterminated anyway.

2. Continuing off the first part, the transition of the Brutes to the carriers of the Honor Guard was broadcasted everywhere and the subsequent betrayal of Prophets and Brutes was also broadcasted everywhere.

3. Yes, the Forerunners catalogued species, but not every installation had species samples.

  • 07.16.2011 11:47 PM PDT

Berzerk Gnome

I honestly do not care about chief getting whooped in the novels point is the new trilogy is going to rock.

  • 07.16.2011 11:53 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Berzerk Gnome
I honestly do not care about chief getting whooped in the novels point is the new trilogy is going to rock.

Why? It could suck like the Star Wars prequels.

  • 07.16.2011 11:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: L KOLIEAN L
Honestly I know where your coming from but idk, that one "leak" did make me think and it is possible. Esp. the fact that the planet is sucking the ship in, that reminds me of this and so maybe it may not factor into a big part of the plot but I do think that it'll seem odd to drop every single thing and throw a whole new style without some sort of throw back...and honestly I'd like it better this way. It'll provide a new thrill and allow us to have a completely new element to play with. Plus the new enemy would be allowed to be overpowered as hell.


1. Frank O'Conner confirmed the leak was bull-blam!-, or bullshirt as he said it since he isn't known to be a big cusser.

2. The Line Installation captured and crashed ships from Slipspace, the Dawn was out of Slipspace when it stated going towards the mysterious planet. It is similar in a way, but not that much.

3. It's a new trilogy, I don't want a throwback I want a new experience.

As for the covie part I don't think your reading it right, this theory relies on the fact that 1 and 2 wouldn't be aware of the events of the last two games, they'll most likely have been captive and or fighting for awhile. Hell maybe even they allied against a common threat. Also it's a forerunner planet, the forerunners are infamous for their love of collecting samples of species and crap.

1. That is an impossibility. The only instance of Covenant forces unaware of the war was portrayed in Stomping on the Heels of a Fuss. In it, a Brute Chieftain purposely fled the battle of Reach and set his forces on a isolated human hunting world where they in turn hunted and ate humans. Half of the Brutes were committed to the Great Journey and the other half wasn't. Doesn't matter through, they were all exterminated anyway.

2. Continuing off the first part, the transition of the Brutes to the carriers of the Honor Guard was broadcasted everywhere and the subsequent betrayal of Prophets and Brutes was also broadcasted everywhere.

3. Yes, the Forerunners catalogued species, but not every installation had species samples.


The point I'm trying to make is that there is a possibility for any of these things to happen and I'm very sure your taking my words in a very wrong context by now.

1. Yes but that leak did lead to some thought on my part, not saying you can trust em but sometimes they can be onto something. Also would you say that "Yes that whole article is one hundred percent true...Yep we got leaked." I'd say no.

2. Yes but the point remains that the AI went out of it's way to capture them, this is what leads to my idea that the same could had happen to previous species.

3. If Covenant and Human forces had been captured it would had to take place awhile back, at least before H2 or H3. This means that they's have no clue the war is over or even the civil war. You gotta learn to relate these points and read the conditions set up in my post man.

4.Again it's quite possible that these troops would have no way to contact anyone else (see above) thus meaning NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING.

5. True but in this case if my idea is to be true something like that would be the cause.

I may not be explaining my points clearly and if so sorry but still I think your missing the point of my post. (Both here and on the other thread)

[Edited on 07.17.2011 12:11 AM PDT]

  • 07.17.2011 12:09 AM PDT

We will know soon enough, but it will require thought. Deep thought. Mendicant Bias must be found. The Mantle will soon follow.

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Bear in mind, everyone, that Halo: Cryptum is one of the very, very few pieces of Forerunner-centered merchandise to share its logo style with Halo 4. I believe that's more than coincidence.

As for the pattern... Need I remind you of the terminals from Halo 3?

  • 07.17.2011 12:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: L KOLIEAN L
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Posted by: L KOLIEAN L
Honestly I know where your coming from but idk, that one "leak" did make me think and it is possible. Esp. the fact that the planet is sucking the ship in, that reminds me of this and so maybe it may not factor into a big part of the plot but I do think that it'll seem odd to drop every single thing and throw a whole new style without some sort of throw back...and honestly I'd like it better this way. It'll provide a new thrill and allow us to have a completely new element to play with. Plus the new enemy would be allowed to be overpowered as hell.


1. Frank O'Conner confirmed the leak was bull-blam!-, or bullshirt as he said it since he isn't known to be a big cusser.

2. The Line Installation captured and crashed ships from Slipspace, the Dawn was out of Slipspace when it stated going towards the mysterious planet. It is similar in a way, but not that much.

3. It's a new trilogy, I don't want a throwback I want a new experience.

As for the covie part I don't think your reading it right, this theory relies on the fact that 1 and 2 wouldn't be aware of the events of the last two games, they'll most likely have been captive and or fighting for awhile. Hell maybe even they allied against a common threat. Also it's a forerunner planet, the forerunners are infamous for their love of collecting samples of species and crap.

1. That is an impossibility. The only instance of Covenant forces unaware of the war was portrayed in Stomping on the Heels of a Fuss. In it, a Brute Chieftain purposely fled the battle of Reach and set his forces on a isolated human hunting world where they in turn hunted and ate humans. Half of the Brutes were committed to the Great Journey and the other half wasn't. Doesn't matter through, they were all exterminated anyway.

2. Continuing off the first part, the transition of the Brutes to the carriers of the Honor Guard was broadcasted everywhere and the subsequent betrayal of Prophets and Brutes was also broadcasted everywhere.

3. Yes, the Forerunners catalogued species, but not every installation had species samples.


The point I'm trying to make is that there is a possibility for any of these things to happen and I'm very sure your taking my words in a very wrong context by now.

1. Yes but that leak did lead to some thought on my part, not saying you can trust em but sometimes they can be onto something. Also would you say that "Yes that whole article is one hundred percent true...Yep we got leaked." I'd say no.

2. Yes but the point remains that the AI went out of it's way to capture them, this is what leads to my idea that the same could had happen to previous species.

3. If Covenant and Human forces had been captured it would had to take place awhile back, at least before H2 or H3. This means that they's have no clue the war is over or even the civil war. You gotta learn to relate these points and read the conditions set up in my post man.

4.Again it's quite possible that these troops would have no way to contact anyone else (see above) thus meaning NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING.

5. True but in this case if my idea is to be true something like that would be the cause.

I may not be explaining my points clearly and if so sorry but still I think your missing the point of my post. (Both here and on the other thread)


1. Don't you see something wrong with this leak? It comes right after the game is announced, it isn't due out for about a year, and yet somehow someone managed to get all the information about it? No. Even with the Tom Morello leaks of Reach, Bungie never denied they were fake. 343 has said they are. I trust them over some random guy on the Internet.

2. Bias was separated at two places, the Forerunner Dreadnought and on The Ark. At both places, he had no power to do anything.

"And so here at the end of my life, I do once again betray a former master. The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe. I'm not so foolish to think this will absolve me of my sins. One life hardly balances billions. But I would have my masters know that I have changed. And you shall be my example."

Why would an AI capture other species when humanity are Reclaimers? The Line Installation did it because it was looking for a way to counter the Flood. Bias is sending the Chief to the Forerunners as an example of his repentance. Bias said YOU, not YOU and OTHERS.

3. Who or what captured them? You need to back that point up.

4. Who or what captured them? You need to back that point up.

5. Your idea isn't true.

Get some facts to back your claims up or they will not be taken seriously.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: L KOLIEAN L
Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: L KOLIEAN L
Honestly I know where your coming from but idk, that one "leak" did make me think and it is possible. Esp. the fact that the planet is sucking the ship in, that reminds me of this and so maybe it may not factor into a big part of the plot but I do think that it'll seem odd to drop every single thing and throw a whole new style without some sort of throw back...and honestly I'd like it better this way. It'll provide a new thrill and allow us to have a completely new element to play with. Plus the new enemy would be allowed to be overpowered as hell.


1. Frank O'Conner confirmed the leak was bull-blam!-, or bullshirt as he said it since he isn't known to be a big cusser.

2. The Line Installation captured and crashed ships from Slipspace, the Dawn was out of Slipspace when it stated going towards the mysterious planet. It is similar in a way, but not that much.

3. It's a new trilogy, I don't want a throwback I want a new experience.

As for the covie part I don't think your reading it right, this theory relies on the fact that 1 and 2 wouldn't be aware of the events of the last two games, they'll most likely have been captive and or fighting for awhile. Hell maybe even they allied against a common threat. Also it's a forerunner planet, the forerunners are infamous for their love of collecting samples of species and crap.

1. That is an impossibility. The only instance of Covenant forces unaware of the war was portrayed in Stomping on the Heels of a Fuss. In it, a Brute Chieftain purposely fled the battle of Reach and set his forces on a isolated human hunting world where they in turn hunted and ate humans. Half of the Brutes were committed to the Great Journey and the other half wasn't. Doesn't matter through, they were all exterminated anyway.

2. Continuing off the first part, the transition of the Brutes to the carriers of the Honor Guard was broadcasted everywhere and the subsequent betrayal of Prophets and Brutes was also broadcasted everywhere.

3. Yes, the Forerunners catalogued species, but not every installation had species samples.


The point I'm trying to make is that there is a possibility for any of these things to happen and I'm very sure your taking my words in a very wrong context by now.

1. Yes but that leak did lead to some thought on my part, not saying you can trust em but sometimes they can be onto something. Also would you say that "Yes that whole article is one hundred percent true...Yep we got leaked." I'd say no.

2. Yes but the point remains that the AI went out of it's way to capture them, this is what leads to my idea that the same could had happen to previous species.

3. If Covenant and Human forces had been captured it would had to take place awhile back, at least before H2 or H3. This means that they's have no clue the war is over or even the civil war. You gotta learn to relate these points and read the conditions set up in my post man.

4.Again it's quite possible that these troops would have no way to contact anyone else (see above) thus meaning NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING.

5. True but in this case if my idea is to be true something like that would be the cause.

I may not be explaining my points clearly and if so sorry but still I think your missing the point of my post. (Both here and on the other thread)



1. problem with that is we have never got an answer to leaks other than locked threads. for the head honco to come out and say bull-blam!- is a good answer. Frankie doesn't F*** around with halo.

2.um the end planet isn't a line installation

3.what the hell are you talking about? this isn't some fan fic written by an 8 year old. the next trilogy is going to be about the forerunners,humans, and maybe precursors. accept the fact that covenant are no longer a plot device.

4.again it isn't a fan fic

5.your idea isn't true.

  • 07.17.2011 12:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: L KOLIEAN L
Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: L KOLIEAN L
Honestly I know where your coming from but idk, that one "leak" did make me think and it is possible. Esp. the fact that the planet is sucking the ship in, that reminds me of this and so maybe it may not factor into a big part of the plot but I do think that it'll seem odd to drop every single thing and throw a whole new style without some sort of throw back...and honestly I'd like it better this way. It'll provide a new thrill and allow us to have a completely new element to play with. Plus the new enemy would be allowed to be overpowered as hell.


1. Frank O'Conner confirmed the leak was bull-blam!-, or bullshirt as he said it since he isn't known to be a big cusser.

2. The Line Installation captured and crashed ships from Slipspace, the Dawn was out of Slipspace when it stated going towards the mysterious planet. It is similar in a way, but not that much.

3. It's a new trilogy, I don't want a throwback I want a new experience.

As for the covie part I don't think your reading it right, this theory relies on the fact that 1 and 2 wouldn't be aware of the events of the last two games, they'll most likely have been captive and or fighting for awhile. Hell maybe even they allied against a common threat. Also it's a forerunner planet, the forerunners are infamous for their love of collecting samples of species and crap.

1. That is an impossibility. The only instance of Covenant forces unaware of the war was portrayed in Stomping on the Heels of a Fuss. In it, a Brute Chieftain purposely fled the battle of Reach and set his forces on a isolated human hunting world where they in turn hunted and ate humans. Half of the Brutes were committed to the Great Journey and the other half wasn't. Doesn't matter through, they were all exterminated anyway.

2. Continuing off the first part, the transition of the Brutes to the carriers of the Honor Guard was broadcasted everywhere and the subsequent betrayal of Prophets and Brutes was also broadcasted everywhere.

3. Yes, the Forerunners catalogued species, but not every installation had species samples.


The point I'm trying to make is that there is a possibility for any of these things to happen and I'm very sure your taking my words in a very wrong context by now.

1. Yes but that leak did lead to some thought on my part, not saying you can trust em but sometimes they can be onto something. Also would you say that "Yes that whole article is one hundred percent true...Yep we got leaked." I'd say no.

2. Yes but the point remains that the AI went out of it's way to capture them, this is what leads to my idea that the same could had happen to previous species.

3. If Covenant and Human forces had been captured it would had to take place awhile back, at least before H2 or H3. This means that they's have no clue the war is over or even the civil war. You gotta learn to relate these points and read the conditions set up in my post man.

4.Again it's quite possible that these troops would have no way to contact anyone else (see above) thus meaning NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING.

5. True but in this case if my idea is to be true something like that would be the cause.

I may not be explaining my points clearly and if so sorry but still I think your missing the point of my post. (Both here and on the other thread)


1. Don't you see something wrong with this leak? It comes right after the game is announced, it isn't due out for about a year, and yet somehow someone managed to get all the information about it? No. Even with the Tom Morello leaks of Reach, Bungie never denied they were fake. 343 has said they are. I trust them over some random guy on the Internet.

2. Bias was separated at two places, the Forerunner Dreadnought and on The Ark. At both places, he had no power to do anything.

"And so here at the end of my life, I do once again betray a former master. The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe. I'm not so foolish to think this will absolve me of my sins. One life hardly balances billions. But I would have my masters know that I have changed. And you shall be my example."

Why would an AI capture other species when humanity are Reclaimers? The Line Installation did it because it was looking for a way to counter the Flood. Bias is sending the Chief to the Forerunners as an example of his repentance. Bias said YOU, not YOU and OTHERS.

3. Who or what captured them? You need to back that point up.

4. Who or what captured them? You need to back that point up.

5. Your idea isn't true.

Get some facts to back your claims up or they will not be taken seriously.


1. Really? Okay I was being sarcastic about the leak but still any leak is still a theory and thus even if it's denied it still could be onto something. Honestly I don't even know how we started arguing over this THEORY of mine, really I just started off saying it's possible.

2.Bias told us he is sending us to met up with someone (his creators) so he sent CHIEF there. This DOES NOT mean that I'm trying to say that he just up and started sending a crap ton of people every whgere for the lawls. Seriously my theory doesn't even need to factor Bias as he barely relates to it.

3. To answer your question, idk -blam!- honestly it could be anything, it's a planet floating out in the middle of god knows where. The others could be just random cases of "Hey look at these random ships, haven't seen these before...let's get them!" As for the Humans you have to remember that EVERY HUMAN was a reclaimer so that doesn't seem so odd.

3. and 4. That cold be anyone, forerunner AI or maybe even some random security measure or research protocol...We don't know and it really doesn't make or break my theory because of WHO did it. If anything it just brings up the question of WHY.

5. Who knows, do you? Nope...Do I? Nope.

Honestly your the one trying to shoot down my theory by bring up points that try to force it to play out in conditions that have little effect on it. In fact you having even shoot my theory down. Your saying that there is NO WAY that these things are possible, I'm arguing that there is a chance there is and I'm very sure my points are valid enough to use...to help build my theory as I have done.

We can play this dance but until we see the final thing we'll never know...What I do know is that you'll waste alot more of your time trying to shoot down my theory then you'll like. Then again who says that you have to agree? I just chimed in with my two cents and you decided to counter it, I'm just continuing the discussion my friend.

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