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Subject: Plz disregrad my post one this , Vista=Rocks ~dutchperson
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Edit

This is a -blam!- topic now I have found out stuff about vista I didn't know earlyer

I know way here going to use DX10 and vista :)

so I'm editing most my posts to nothing :)

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  • 02.27.2006 8:36 AM PDT
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I'm so disgusted by this blatant attempt to manouver people into a totally unneccessary OS upgrade that I just might contribute my modding talents to ripping Halo 2 PC, and I'm somebody who still pays for their music.

Yes, I'm that mad.

It is absolutely ridiculous that frucking LINUX users will be able to play Halo 2 PC and Windows XP people won't. There is no reason, non at all why you would need Vista to play a game as old as Halo 2. Look at older games on XP like Unreal Tournament 2004, Half Life 2 or FEAR. They look absolutely spectacular. Look at the previews of UT2007. Halo 2 brings nothing to the table that is going to require Vista as far as I can tell.

I was planning on buying a new computer later this year anyways to play UT2007, but Vista can lick my balls.

  • 02.27.2006 9:22 AM PDT
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  • 02.27.2006 10:07 AM PDT
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Well, i am pretty flustered. This is outrageous. If it can run on regular XBOX, then it can run on XP. They are just.....bastards. I really used to look at Microsoft as cool, yah know, taking a hit at their own expense and actually giving a damn about the consumer but this is just a sad little attempt to grab up an extra billion dollars. (as if they need it)

  • 02.27.2006 10:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: O R D O M
Well, i am pretty flustered. This is outrageous. If it can run on regular XBOX, then it can run on XP. They are just.....bastards. I really used to look at Microsoft as cool, yah know, taking a hit at their own expense and actually giving a damn about the consumer but this is just a sad little attempt to grab up an extra billion dollars. (as if they need it)


Yeah Like need anymore money!!!

lets see what does a xbox have in it?

as in processor/ram/video card

  • 02.27.2006 10:27 AM PDT

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I'm so disgusted by this blatant attempt to manouver people into a totally unneccessary OS upgrade that I just might contribute my modding talents to ripping Halo 2 PC, and I'm somebody who still pays for their music.

Yes, I'm that mad.

It is absolutely ridiculous that frucking LINUX users will be able to play Halo 2 PC and Windows XP people won't. There is no reason, non at all why you would need Vista to play a game as old as Halo 2. Look at older games on XP like Unreal Tournament 2004, Half Life 2 or FEAR. They look absolutely spectacular. Look at the previews of UT2007. Halo 2 brings nothing to the table that is going to require Vista as far as I can tell.

I was planning on buying a new computer later this year anyways to play UT2007, but Vista can lick my balls.



Half-life 3, COD3, BF3, and other may be forced to be Vista only, if they intend to use DX10. The problem is DX10 is Vista only so ANY game thats want's to use it is going to have to be Vista only, unless they want to code two engines one for DX10 and one for DX9.

  • 02.27.2006 10:29 AM PDT
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ok
Half-life 3. (I don't think it's been made yet)
Halo 2 (It's been out for what 2 +years?)

get my point

there nothing spl about halo 2 it not a magor update from the xbox version

it's going to be most the some damn thing, maybe some added weapon or maps ..

I only want to get vista IF i have to, not becus some Corparation that want more damn money , that they really don't need!!

now when half-life 3 comes out I'll get vista but till then Microsoft/ Halo 2 Pc can Kiss my @ss!!!

I really wanted to play halo 2 for PC too but owell , i'll propbly have to wait 1 more year or more to play it!

  • 02.27.2006 10:41 AM PDT
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Ok this is what an xbox has in it

# DirectX API game development tools
# Intel Pentium III 733MHz processor technology with Streaming SIMD Extensions
# 233MHz custom-designed chip, developed by Microsoft and NVIDIA
# 64 MB of RAM
# 3D Audio Support in Hardware (64-bit)
# 8 GB hard drive
# 2X-5X DVD drive with movie playback (Additional Remote Necessary)
# Expansion port
# Proprietary A/V connector
# Game controller x4, Ethernet (10/100)
# Broadband enabled
# Modem enabled (optional)

hmmm and halo 2 played on that!!! damn and i though my old computer was bad lol
so if halo 2 can play one that ... thing Y in the world can't in play on Xp??
my old computer is better then that and i xbox was better then that!!(like i mean more powerful)

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  • 02.27.2006 10:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: Iggwilv
Posted by: a Grunt
I'm so disgusted by this blatant attempt to manouver people into a totally unneccessary OS upgrade that I just might contribute my modding talents to ripping Halo 2 PC, and I'm somebody who still pays for their music.

Yes, I'm that mad.

It is absolutely ridiculous that frucking LINUX users will be able to play Halo 2 PC and Windows XP people won't. There is no reason, non at all why you would need Vista to play a game as old as Halo 2. Look at older games on XP like Unreal Tournament 2004, Half Life 2 or FEAR. They look absolutely spectacular. Look at the previews of UT2007. Halo 2 brings nothing to the table that is going to require Vista as far as I can tell.

I was planning on buying a new computer later this year anyways to play UT2007, but Vista can lick my balls.




Half-life 3, COD3, BF3, and other may be forced to be Vista only, if they intend to use DX10. The problem is DX10 is Vista only so ANY game thats want's to use it is going to have to be Vista only, unless they want to code two engines one for DX10 and one for DX9.


Half-Life 3?? huh? are u on crack? Do you know what you are talking about? Are you sick? Stick out your tounge *SMACK* -blam!-


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  • 02.27.2006 10:53 AM PDT
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LMAO !!!

  • 02.27.2006 10:57 AM PDT

Bungie wouldn't be forced into releasing Halo 2 on Vista only. Microsoft really doesn't have that much control over them.

It's already been explained that they felt that it was for the best of the game. In fact, I wager that a lot more non-Microsoft games will be made Vista-only soon. Windows XP is coming to the end of its Microsoft support cycle.

  • 02.27.2006 11:11 AM PDT
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Posted by: goweb
Bungie wouldn't be forced into releasing Halo 2 on Vista only. Microsoft really doesn't have that much control over them.

It's already been explained that they felt that it was for the best of the game. In fact, I wager that a lot more non-Microsoft games will be made Vista-only soon. Windows XP is coming to the end of its Microsoft support cycle.


I think that's BS. Microsoft...they sort of own them. So you mean to tell me that, if they wanted to, Bungie could make Halo 3 for Xbox?? I think not, because MS wants people to buy the new system to get the new game. This is the same case with vista.

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  • 02.27.2006 11:16 AM PDT
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I know
I would Buy vista but halo2 , it's old..
Now like whan something New comes out and needs Vista
I'll buy it untill then I'm stuck with halo Pc , and propbly for a long time depending if there s game worth buying vista for!
Not to be mean but I don't think Halo 2 is worth even thinking about
buying a $100 OS, I'll reather go to my friends house and play it or even
go buy a new xbox !!! becus I have alot of xbox games but no xbox(mine broken)
Watch Windows Vista be and another Windows Me thing , only lasting a short while before getting replaced with something better!
I still think the best Os is Windows 2000 sevice pack 4 !!
but Xp is nice !

~dutch

  • 02.27.2006 11:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: goweb
Bungie wouldn't be forced into releasing Halo 2 on Vista only. Microsoft really doesn't have that much control over them.

It's already been explained that they felt that it was for the best of the game. In fact, I wager that a lot more non-Microsoft games will be made Vista-only soon. Windows XP is coming to the end of its Microsoft support cycle.


I think that's BS. Microsoft...they sort of own them. So you mean to tell me that, if they wanted to, Bungie could make Halo 3 for Xbox?? I think not, because MS wants people to buy the new system to get the new game. This is the same case with vista.


I agree 100% with O R D O M it plain BS!!!!

  • 02.27.2006 11:23 AM PDT
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Posted by: goweb
Bungie wouldn't be forced into releasing Halo 2 on Vista only. Microsoft really doesn't have that much control over them.

It's already been explained that they felt that it was for the best of the game. In fact, I wager that a lot more non-Microsoft games will be made Vista-only soon. Windows XP is coming to the end of its Microsoft support cycle.


ok listen to the words coming out of my mouth NEWER .... KEYWORD here!!!
OLD GAMES = XP , NEWER GAMES = Vista

After all this Microsoft looks like a pile of BS to me!!
They only want money . They'er willing to lose thousands of millons of fans or uses just becus of money!!!
thats greedy..
sorry for the 3 posted I won't do it again

Edit: i changed the name of the topic!!

[Edited on 2/27/2006]

  • 02.27.2006 11:30 AM PDT

Posted by: O R D O M
I think that's BS. Microsoft...they sort of own them. So you mean to tell me that, if they wanted to, Bungie could make Halo 3 for Xbox?? I think not, because MS wants people to buy the new system to get the new game. This is the same case with vista.

Bungie could, but why would they want to, seeing as the Xbox 360 is a lot more powerful than the Xbox? Just like they'll be able to do a lot more with Vista than XP.

  • 02.27.2006 11:47 AM PDT
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Posted by: goweb
Posted by: O R D O M
I think that's BS. Microsoft...they sort of own them. So you mean to tell me that, if they wanted to, Bungie could make Halo 3 for Xbox?? I think not, because MS wants people to buy the new system to get the new game. This is the same case with vista.

Bungie could, but why would they want to, seeing as the Xbox 360 is a lot more powerful than the Xbox? Just like they'll be able to do a lot more with Vista than XP.


well they'er not trying to put halo 2 one xbox 360 now r they???!!!
so what you said is kind'd dumb, to me, at least not the part of they can do more ,but your compareing halo 2 like if it's a new game , but it not!!
so hmmm ???
y would they NEED to. so far I have look in tp vista , halo 2 don't need a Over Kill OS to play it , add i think
ok..
vista is a memory hog and perfroments hog , there be nothing left for halo 2 to play with!!! there propbly be poor Frame rate and stuff like that, becus of it, people well need to Pay MORE for upgrades and stuff so

To MAKE there fans happy bungie should make a version for Xp and vista , and see what one has more users for halo2 Pc ..!!

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  • 02.27.2006 11:55 AM PDT

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well they'er not trying to put halo 2 one xbox 360 now r they???!!!
so what you said is kind'd dumb, to me, at least not the part of they can do more ,but your compareing halo 2 like if it's a new game , but it not!!
so hmmm ???
y would they NEED to. so far I have look in tp vista , halo 2 don't need a Over Kill OS to play it , add i think
ok..
vista is a memory hog and perfroments hog , there be nothing left for halo 2 to play with!!! there propbly be poor Frame rate and stuff like that, becus of it, people well need to Pay MORE for upgrades and stuff so

To MAKE there fans happy bungie should make a version for Xp and vista , and see what one has more users for halo2 Pc ..!!

Firstly, Halo 2 was released before the Xbox 360 was announced, so it woud've been stupid to release the game on it, wouldn't it?

Like I've said before, you don't know what Bungie has planned. They could be planning to use more efficient routines to make the game run better. They could be planning to utilise 64-bit processing to make the game run better (Windows XP 64-bit was a bit of a hack). They could be planning to improve the game so it looks better on the PC than the Xbox.

But, then again, none of us are experts. Bungie are the experts. They know what they're doing, and they know what advantages Vista will afford to them. I'm sure we'll find these out in the course of time.

  • 02.27.2006 12:05 PM PDT
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You like turn people word around just to get what you want you know that?

I still stand for Makeing HAlo 2 PC for both Vista, and XP so people don't have to spend so much one stuff

I'll have no problem running vista, i'm talking for the one that will have to upgrade big time just to run vista! your looking at how the game is going to work ,but i'm look at whats it going to cost other people!! I have no problem forking about $200 to buy halo 2 pc and Vista becus I won't have to upgrade my computer but I won't, if million of people can't becus they can't afford it damnit, i reather never play halo 2 pc then be one of the lucky people and be able to play it , while others are stuck with Halo pc or nothing!!
people like MS money hungry bastards that only want money! Piss me off
MS is somehow tied in the this , forseing bungie to make it for vista! thats what i think!!

Bungie should AT LEAST attemt to make halo 2 for xp and vista even if the halo 2 for Xp look worst the one for Vista !! thats the bottom line

so what do you have to say? < i really don't mean that in mean way<

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  • 02.27.2006 12:23 PM PDT

Posted by: Dutchperson
I'll have no problem running vista, i'm talking for the one that will have to upgrade big time just to run vista! your looking at how the game is going to work ,but i'm look at whats it going to cost other people!! I have no problem forking about $200 to buy halo 2 pc and Vista becus I won't have to upgrade my computer but I won't, if million of people can't becus they can't afford it damnit, i reather never play halo 2 pc then be one of the lucky people and be able to play it , while others are stuck with Halo pc or nothing!!

Eventually, everyone's going to have to upgrade to Vista. Like I said, Windows XP is reaching the end of its product cycle (Microsoft typically supports each piece of software for five years - Windows XP is already at this point).
Posted by: Dutchperson
Bungie should AT LEAST attemt to make halo 2 for xp and vista even if the halo 2 for Xp look worst the one for Vista !! thats the bottom line

Making a game is both time consuming and expensive. Vista is such a huge departure from previous versions of Windows that I would imagine it was decided that the return wouldn't be enough to justify a port to Windows XP.

Another reason could just be that Bungie wants the best for its game, which they decided was Vista. This is probably the more likely option, judging by previous Bungie decisions. They're artists after all.

  • 02.27.2006 12:32 PM PDT
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But still I think MS should make it easyer for people to upgrade not harder!!

  • 02.27.2006 12:46 PM PDT
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On second thought, this thread doesn't really deserve my attention nor my post. Please don't disrespect any fellow members such as Iggwilv, and especially not a moderator, who holds full power over your ability to access this forum.

Please excuse this post.

[Edited on 2/27/2006]

  • 02.27.2006 2:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: goweb
Posted by: O R D O M
I think that's BS. Microsoft...they sort of own them. So you mean to tell me that, if they wanted to, Bungie could make Halo 3 for Xbox?? I think not, because MS wants people to buy the new system to get the new game. This is the same case with vista.

Bungie could, but why would they want to, seeing as the Xbox 360 is a lot more powerful than the Xbox? Just like they'll be able to do a lot more with Vista than XP.


the point was that if H2 could run on that whimpy XBOX, i'm pretty damn sure it would run fine on XP, since the XBOX uses a modded windows 2K.


And thank you :P

  • 02.27.2006 3:54 PM PDT
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Well, the xbox console is different than the PC, all consoles well, are 100% devoted to gaming gaming and software wise. A modded windows 2k as you said was probably modded to be more efficent for the xbox as it would only be needed for gaming. Also, developers get as much as they can out of the software and hardware to make it look the nice and running well. Console developers get as much as they can out of the hardware. Look at a game called black, pretty good graphics and guess what everything is abled to be destoryed. Doors, buildings, cars all on a PS2! PC's are different, do you think they would be able to go and optimize all the different processors and graphics cards for one game on the PC, that would take decades. But they can't so they try to optimize the game code and software to run the best it can without game optimizations for the hardware itself.

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