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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron


Saying it's a crutch IMO is... bleh. I'd say both relied on personal skills and teamwork just as equally. However, Spartan III's were trained to use better team tactics and strategies because they didn't have MJOLNIR and thus couldn't screw up.


It is a fact that teamwork was a crutch because thats why they got slaughtered at pegasi because they couldn't operate by themselves after which kurt trained them more like SIIs

  • 07.11.2011 5:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: DespotIsaac
Well, the Chief is just plain lucky, so yeah, he'd probably survive.

But Six could've very well filled in the role what the Chief did, though I like the Chief's more badass character more. Six has little character development.


Six had more character development in Reach than John did in CE, IMO.


Why?


He actually showed emotion, like when Jorge died, unlike John.

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Posted by: DespotIsaac
Well, the Chief is just plain lucky, so yeah, he'd probably survive.

But Six could've very well filled in the role what the Chief did, though I like the Chief's more badass character more. Six has little character development.


Six had more character development in Reach than John did in CE, IMO.


Why?


He actually showed emotion, like when Jorge died, unlike John.


Yeah, then again Six was much younger and John had seen countless people die, but I think Six was closer to Jorge than any other Spartan in Noble Team.

  • 07.11.2011 5:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: DespotIsaac
Well, the Chief is just plain lucky, so yeah, he'd probably survive.

But Six could've very well filled in the role what the Chief did, though I like the Chief's more badass character more. Six has little character development.


Six had more character development in Reach than John did in CE, IMO.


Why?


He actually showed emotion, like when Jorge died, unlike John.


I see but he did showed emotion too when Keyes died and when he thought all Humans died on Halo

  • 07.11.2011 5:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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john always shows emotion, the reason he is quite is because he thinks all his spartans are dead and because the flood effed him up.

this is where the whole game> book thing is flawed

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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

Carter acted like a Dick to Jorge a few times in the campaign.

Six was clearly a bit angry at Carter at the beginning of New Alexandria

[Edited on 07.11.2011 5:08 PM PDT]

  • 07.11.2011 5:08 PM PDT


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Posted by: DespotIsaac
Well, the Chief is just plain lucky, so yeah, he'd probably survive.

But Six could've very well filled in the role what the Chief did, though I like the Chief's more badass character more. Six has little character development.


Six had more character development in Reach than John did in CE, IMO.


Why?


He actually showed emotion, like when Jorge died, unlike John.


I see but he did showed emotion too when Keyes died and when he thought all Humans died on Halo


He was fine because of cortana. she was comforting him saying that they had to do it, so chief went along with it.

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Posted by: grey101
john always shows emotion, the reason he is quite is because he thinks all his spartans are dead and because the flood effed him up.

this is where the whole game> book thing is flawed


Not always. He always feels sad and emotional, but doesnt always show it. But you are half right, espicially when Johnson died, you could tell the Chief was upset.

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Posted by: grey101
john always shows emotion, the reason he is quite is because he thinks all his spartans are dead and because the flood effed him up.

this is where the whole game> book thing is flawed


Not always. He always feels sad and emotional, but doesnt always show it. But you are half right, espicially when Johnson died, you could tell the Chief was upset.


Also, notice that John shows more emotion in Halo 2 than in CE. This is after First Strike and after he had found out that Fred, Kelly, Linda etc. were all alive and that he wasnt the last remaining Spartan.

  • 07.11.2011 5:10 PM PDT


Posted by: hotshot revan II
Carter acted like a Dick to Jorge a few times in the campaign.

Six was clearly a bit angry at Carter at the beginning of New Alexandria


I didn't get any anger 'vibes' from Six at the beginning of that level <_<. and Carter wasn't a dick to Jorge, the times I could remember things maybe being taken like that is A: beginning of WC. Sarcasm. B: ending of winter contingency, when he just ordered Jorge and Emile to start arguing.


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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron


Saying it's a crutch IMO is... bleh. I'd say both relied on personal skills and teamwork just as equally. However, Spartan III's were trained to use better team tactics and strategies because they didn't have MJOLNIR and thus couldn't screw up.


It is a fact that teamwork was a crutch because thats why they got slaughtered at pegasi because they couldn't operate by themselves after which kurt trained them more like SIIs


I thought it was Alpha company which got slaughtered due to panicking, and then Kurt trained Beta company better (they only broke lines when cruisers came into the battlefield), and then Kurt gave gamma the illegal drug to boost their survivability due to the SPI.

  • 07.11.2011 5:19 PM PDT

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chief out performed six in delta and alpha Halo. I am sure he would have surpassed six

  • 07.11.2011 7:04 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
A: chief still had troubles. Hell without cortana in his helm he was extremely uneasy. I remember chief not having a cakewalk through halo in The Flood.

B: Why would that make him any less skilled or as good as chief? Stealth, stealthy force, I highly -blam!- doubt he used a nuke all the time.

C: Point me to where advanced academics is important in the battlefield. Spartan III training was more on combat, tactics, and related things.

D: FALSE. Just because they received extensive training in how to act as a team DOES NOT DAMN THEM IF THEY ARE ALONE!

If that was true then Master Chief should've died on the PoA! why? Because his ENTIRE military career was fought in a team.


A. If I remember, he was uneasy because he didn't have Cortana providing him intel on the obviously ominous area that any sane being would keep well away from. I don't really particularly remember him having any sort of significant trouble in the Flood.

B. I think I'm in the same boat on this point, the method that Six removed Innie forces does not really matter in anyway that would indicate her skills, other than she's damn awesome. Only a nuke would really be of any significance, and I really doubt that Six had any nukes at her disposal, it seems to me that she would be given behind the lines sort of jobs with minimal support other than herself and whatever equipment she can carry with ease. A nuke would probably not be amongst those things.

C. Certain academics would actually be quite useful in the field, such as higher mathematics, I doubt Chief could have made the correct calculations when he made the jump from the Cairo to deliver the bomb. I don't think having that sort of knowledge really makes the SIIs better, but it does mean they'll be a tad more versatile than the SIIIs, imo.

I have no comment(s) on that last point.

  • 07.12.2011 4:32 PM PDT

*Shrug* I may be slightly overdoing it cause the generic S3 = suck statements I'm seeing...

Though my point with A was that chief didn't have a cakewalk as people try to make it seem like. I sometimes get this vibe of "Master Chief did the halo trilogy events, and he could've done them with an arm tied behind his back and blindfolded.

[Edited on 07.12.2011 4:37 PM PDT]

  • 07.12.2011 4:35 PM PDT

Not only did Spartan IIIs recieve better training than SIIs, like Cmdr said, Noble Team, the members selected, were singled out as having genetics on par with that of Spartan IIs, so not only were they Spartan IIIs with better training and augmentations, but also on par with that of regular Spartan IIs, so Noble Team were almost what I'd like to call Spartan IVs.

  • 07.13.2011 12:41 AM PDT
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If Master Chief was in Noble 6's place he would have actually survived. Even though you change a part in the history of the Halo Universe, it will find a way to make it right again. What would probably happen is that Chief would say something like, "Emile, you go get on that MAC Cannon while I clear the DZ. And keep an eye on that radar."
And then Emile would say, "Got it, sir."
Speeding up the story, when that Phantom would arrive, if not shot down, Emile would have recognized it on his radar and take out the Elites. When Keyes would come down on his Pelican, Chief could and would get on, while Emile heroically dies with Reach.

If Noble 6 were to have done it, he would probably make a final stand on the Halo Ring before it exploded (in Halo 3).

If Kat were to do it, Johnson would have misfired and shot her in the face with a Sniper Rifle in Halo 2.

If Jorge were to do it, he would have blown himself up with the first discovered Halo Ring, thinking he has saved the Universe . . .

If Carter were to do it, he would have flown a Pelican into the Covenant Cruiser instead of using the bomb like in Halo 2.

If Jun were to do it, he would have flown the Longsword away at the end of Halo: CE, never to be seen again.

If Emile were to do it, he wouldn't have been paying attention to his radar and got infected by the flood or something . . .

[Edited on 07.13.2011 3:38 AM PDT]

  • 07.13.2011 3:37 AM PDT


Posted by: lime013
If Master Chief was in Noble 6's place he would have actually survived. Even though you change a part in the history of the Halo Universe, it will find a way to make it right again. What would probably happen is that Chief would say something like, "Emile, you go get on that MAC Cannon while I clear the DZ. And keep an eye on that radar."
And then Emile would say, "Got it, sir."
Speeding up the story, when that Phantom would arrive, if not shot down, Emile would have recognized it on his radar and take out the Elites. When Keyes would come down on his Pelican, Chief could and would get on, while Emile heroically dies with Reach.

If Noble 6 were to have done it, he would probably make a final stand on the Halo Ring before it exploded (in Halo 3).

If Kat were to do it, Johnson would have misfired and shot her in the face with a Sniper Rifle in Halo 2.

If Jorge were to do it, he would have blown himself up with the first discovered Halo Ring, thinking he has saved the Universe . . .

If Carter were to do it, he would have flown a Pelican into the Covenant Cruiser instead of using the bomb like in Halo 2.

If Jun were to do it, he would have flown the Longsword away at the end of Halo: CE, never to be seen again.

If Emile were to do it, he wouldn't have been paying attention to his radar and got infected by the flood or something . . .


LOL!

  • 07.13.2011 4:56 AM PDT

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I'd wager MC would of had been able to survive the covenant ambush.

  • 07.13.2011 5:10 AM PDT


Posted by: Cowgoesmoo
I'd wager MC would of had been able to survive the covenant ambush.


He wouldn't have survived the glassing. Period. MC is not invincible. He is not a god. Get this through your head.

  • 07.13.2011 7:04 AM PDT
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Posted by: Cowgoesmoo
I'd wager MC would of had been able to survive the covenant ambush.
I'll take that wager, good sir.

Chief isn't a god. With no transport off Reach, surrounded by Elites, he would not make it out alive.
Nothing short of divine intervention could get anyone out of that fight.

  • 07.13.2011 7:12 AM PDT

Six's dead, MC is alive.

I'm just sayin'.

  • 07.13.2011 7:32 AM PDT

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He would've doen what Six did, and have gotten off the planet.

  • 07.13.2011 7:36 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
*Shrug* I may be slightly overdoing it cause the generic S3 = suck statements I'm seeing...

Though my point with A was that chief didn't have a cakewalk as people try to make it seem like. I sometimes get this vibe of "Master Chief did the halo trilogy events, and he could've done them with an arm tied behind his back and blindfolded.


I'm not really trying to debate with you anyway :P Mostly I'm just posting the counter points to preserve status-quo so to speak :/

I agree, it still is a spectacular testament to his abilities though, I really do not think successfully surviving all of Alpha Halo an easy feat. *Shrug* I haven't particularly noticed that vibe, but I have noticed that a lot of the Chief's fans do tend to over-exaggerate his abilities and feats quite a lot.

  • 07.13.2011 8:11 AM PDT

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