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Subject: Reach's Canon Error Explanations

I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
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Posted by: mubox47

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The last point, while true that it wasn't made clear, was explained in Halsey's journal. It was a fragment of Cortana made to keep working on the artifact, also the original Cortana was used to research the artifact at first. That's why she's familiar with FR tech.


Ah, see I didn't get the edition with Halsey's journal so I didn't know that. Good to know, thanks.


That's a very good point. Halsey has been studying that Forerunner structure for years. When she made Cortana, Cortana inherited the knowledge. Also Cortana is an AI so she's a bit smarter and faster. Then she just uses the information from that site to examine that other article from, what was it, Sigma Octanius?

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REACH IS AUTOMATICALLY CANNON!!!!!!!! Nuff said.

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Posted by: ImmortalJoshua

Posted by: mubox47

Posted by: L KOLIEAN L
The last point, while true that it wasn't made clear, was explained in Halsey's journal. It was a fragment of Cortana made to keep working on the artifact, also the original Cortana was used to research the artifact at first. That's why she's familiar with FR tech.




Ah, see I didn't get the edition with Halsey's journal so I didn't know that. Good to know, thanks.


That's a very good point. Halsey has been studying that Forerunner structure for years. When she made Cortana, Cortana inherited the knowledge. Also Cortana is an AI so she's a bit smarter and faster. Then she just uses the information from that site to examine that other article from, what was it, Sigma Octanius?


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You know damn well halsey had not been studying that site for years because she just got transferred to sword base. and you know damn well it is Sigma Octanus because somebody argued with that a few weeks ago

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Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
Ok so there has been several people complaining about some canon "errors" from Halo: Reach. Uses information from various Halo media, I have provided the best explanations for these "errors" After you have read this thread, there is no excuse to go off and say Reach is not canon.
While there are some minor ret-cons Bungie made, they are not severe whatsoever. Also it should be noted that the Fall of Reach has had several ret-cons already. Big deal if a couple more are made. 95% of the storyline of the book is still the same.


Reach's fleet

August 12

Tip of the Spear occurs.
At least 1 Frigate is destroyed.

Noble Team retreats along with all UNSC forces.

BTW John is in the planet at this time. It is interesting to note that in the Fall of Reach John says that his home will not fall. While the Covenant are never said to be on the planet, it is never said that they weren't on the planet in the book.

August 13

60% of the UNSC fleet is on route to Reach. Arrival within 48 hours. Most likely case is that the local Reach fleets begins to fight off the Super Carrier and suffers huge loses. The Super Carrier is significantly larger than a Cruiser, which is already bigger than Halcyon class Cruisers and Frigates. The Super Carrier most likely has shields extremely stronger than it's smaller counterpart. The fleet retreats.

During ONI: Sword Base, a Orbital Defense Platform destroys the Corvette. While it is never stated that ODPs can be moved, it is likely to assume that it is geo-synced and cannot be moved. We see that on Long Night of Solace, that Anchor 9 is relatively over the area where Sword Base is. Therefore, it can be concluded, that the debris in the distance is in fact the ODP mentioned during Sword Bose.

August 14

Operation: UPPERCUT occurs. The UNSC performs a low level strike to take out the Super Carrier. This minimizes overall loses and resource use.
NOTE: The Covenant seen until the end of Long Night of Solace are from the Fleet of Valiant Predence.

Another Covenant Fleet arrives and possibly destroys the rest of the local UNSC fleet.

Most likely on Aug. 14 or 15, the 60% UNSC fleet arrives and puts up a fight with the fleet.


Reach wasn't the only planet in the system attacked by the Covenant
It should be noted that the Battle of Tribute occurred sometime in August. Tribute is in the same solar system as Reach. Dutch was present during the evacuation of the colony, and witnessed the near-total destruction of the UNSC Navy escort fleet in orbit as they protected civilian refugees. This escort fleet was most likely made up of the local fleet.


The Pillar of Autumn on August 30
Just read this
0616 Hours: Blue Team performs their operation on Gamma Station
0637 Hours: John retreats with Linda's body to the Pillar of Autumn
0647 Hours: The Pillar of Autumn is contacted and is ordered to land on Reach and retrieve the rest of Cortana.
1652 Hours: B312 gives Keyes Cortana and the ship leaves the system as said in The Fall of Reach.

There. Now don't talk about the inconsistencies of timeline.

Number of Spartan-IIIs
This one is also just a simple ret-con that some people can't seem to get over. Ok there are HUNDREDS of S-IIIs for each company. It's not hard to believe that at least a dozen are taken out for various other assignments (Noble Team, Headhunters, etc.)
It should be noted that Kat and Carter are the only surviving members of the original Noble Team. This means that Noble Team was first formed sometime after Beta Company's graduation. This also means that Jun and Emile did not join Noble until some time after. They could have been Headhunters before then.


If I see any other canon errors addressed by some people, I will address them here and attempt to fix them to the best of my ability.


I don't think you explained any of this very well. My theory which people will probably disagree with but anyways...The inital covenant scouting party was there to help scout out reaches defenses, find artifact locations, cut off the colony from help and so on. The fleet didn't want to engage the current covenant cruiser when it was discovered because of causilties and they needed ships. (also a huge time difference in the dates July to August). They wanted to try to take out the ship without taking too many casualties so the opportunity they had with noble team was perfect. It wasn't a big threat cause it would take awhile for the ship to cause any major glassing damage so the UNSC left it alone for now. To help expose the covenant bases they had teams go destroy the spire shields. Now most of the Spartan 3's were pretty much killed, Alpha was completely wiped, all but 2 in beta were wiped (supposedly). Spartans could have been drawn from that company and alpha company or gamma company so they could be a mixture of the best of the companies. (although the AI friggin sucks). Back the actual point, now the pillar of Autumn people argue could not have been on the surface, but the space battle could have been already engaged at this time. The UNSC didn't want to risk losing the package since it is quite a ways from the surface of the planet to the Pillar of Autumn so as they entered the planet red team and blue team left. While everything is happening keyes is waiting for the package to be delivered. While waiting John and clinically dead Linda arrive and the spartan in the easter egg is linda since it said John immediatley froze her the minute he entered the ship. They left the surface ran like hell and jumped into slipspace in the process. Theory not Fact so don't get all mad.

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There is too much of these threads popping up.They really piss me off.Why are they so popular and besides who cares about canon?

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Posted by: roberte76
There is too much of these threads popping up.They really piss me off.Why are they so popular and besides who cares about canon?


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Posted by: roberte76
There is too much of these threads popping up.They really piss me off.Why are they so popular and besides who cares about canon?


You're posting in the Bungie Universe forum. These are the posts that are supposed to be in it.

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